Chadd 916 Report post Posted March 11, 2010 I used to get real mad about bad calls, but after a while you understand they go both ways.I used to have a guy on my team that got really hot when he was called for anything and I used to ask him how many things he got away with that weren't called. That usually calmed him down.1.) Play behind the net and the puck comes out the other way, one of our guys gets tangled up with one of theirs and breaks his way free before skating up ahead, ref is looking the other way and the guy from the other team yells that he got high sticked, ref looks back and now I'm the closest guy to that player, he raises his hand and calls a penalty on me.I know some guys that will call slashes on sound, even if they aren't looking, but I just don't do that. I just feel that if you didn't see it, you can't call it. You may have a pretty good idea as to what happened, but you still don't know for sure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shotty 7 Report post Posted March 11, 2010 theres a couple refs in our league who take the faceoff procedures really seriously. to the point where BOTH centres are saying "just drop the f'in puck!"one of them makes the visiting team's centre put his stick on the dot first, and gives home team the last change. its insane to watch.Chadd: what level do you ref? in our men's league we have two officials, each with one arm band, so they're essentially playing the part of both ref and linesman, but it always seems that one is left making the penalty calls. example: one ref will say "he shook his head, so i cant call it" even though he acknowledges that its a penalty. i never understood that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
furlanitalia 1 Report post Posted March 11, 2010 I know some guys that will call slashes on sound, even if they aren't looking, but I just don't do that. I just feel that if you didn't see it, you can't call it. You may have a pretty good idea as to what happened, but you still don't know for sure.I agree. It's hard to explain this to coaches without them giving you "open your eyes then ref!" but it's true, with 17,000 sq ft of ice it's hard to see everything all at once. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chadd 916 Report post Posted March 11, 2010 theres a couple refs in our league who take the faceoff procedures really seriously. to the point where BOTH centres are saying "just drop the f'in puck!"one of them makes the visiting team's centre put his stick on the dot first, and gives home team the last change. its insane to watch.Chadd: what level do you ref? in our men's league we have two officials, each with one arm band, so they're essentially playing the part of both ref and linesman, but it always seems that one is left making the penalty calls. example: one ref will say "he shook his head, so i cant call it" even though he acknowledges that its a penalty. i never understood that.I haven't worked a game in over a year, thanks to my work schedule and then my concussion. Prior to that I had been a ref for ten years or so and worked everything from mites up to junior varsity games. Since I tend to be "by the book" guy I never wanted to do the higher level games where partners and assignors expect you to ignore cheap shots and high sticks. I don't like being told that certain calls are "not an option" when doing a game. I actually prefer to do beer league games. I had a great relationship with most players/teams and there was nobody yelling and screaming in the stands all game long.I agree. It's hard to explain this to coaches without them giving you "open your eyes then ref!" but it's true, with 17,000 sq ft of ice it's hard to see everything all at once.If everyone is out there to play hockey, it's easy to call a game. When you have ten guys out there trying to kill each other, you're going to miss a lot. When I coached I always used to tell my players that nothing good ever happens behind the play. If you are tied up with someone and the puck is at the other end of the ice, there's a good chance someone is going to get hurt or end up in the box. Get up, get into the action and leave that guy behind. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
furlanitalia 1 Report post Posted March 11, 2010 If everyone is out there to play hockey, it's easy to call a game. When you have ten guys out there trying to kill each other, you're going to miss a lot. When I coached I always used to tell my players that nothing good ever happens behind the play. If you are tied up with someone and the puck is at the other end of the ice, there's a good chance someone is going to get hurt or end up in the box. Get up, get into the action and leave that guy behind.Or, what often happens is if I miss the original call and you retaliate, I'm more then often see the retaliation and not the initial penalty. I agree though that everyone just needs to get out there and play. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shotty 7 Report post Posted March 11, 2010 ^ thats why i've made a personal vow to resist retaliation. it ALWAYS gets picked up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
furlanitalia 1 Report post Posted March 11, 2010 Is this a personal vow that started after last season? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lotus 2 Report post Posted March 11, 2010 With the exception being calls made on me that were for things someone else did..In an inline game several years ago I got called for going down to block a shot. "Diving". Apparently USA Inline Hockey rules state that you cannot dive to block a shot. In the same game a friend of mine got called for diving when he dove to swipe the puck away from someone on a breakaway. Reffs were really loving that rule. I never bothered to look it up. I decided that even if it exists, you should just pretend it doesn't :P Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
furlanitalia 1 Report post Posted March 11, 2010 With the exception being calls made on me that were for things someone else did..In an inline game several years ago I got called for going down to block a shot. "Diving". Apparently USA Inline Hockey rules state that you cannot dive to block a shot. In the same game a friend of mine got called for diving when he dove to swipe the puck away from someone on a breakaway. Reffs were really loving that rule. I never bothered to look it up. I decided that even if it exists, you should just pretend it doesn't :PCould you imagine that being a call in ice hockey? Blocking shots is an integral part of the game, do you happen to know what there reason is for the penalty? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chadd 916 Report post Posted March 11, 2010 Could you imagine that being a call in ice hockey? Blocking shots is an integral part of the game, do you happen to know what there reason is for the penalty?I play as if blocking a shot would be a penalty Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
furlanitalia 1 Report post Posted March 11, 2010 I play as if blocking a shot would be a penaltyLol, I take it to seriously and play as if I don't block the shot it will be a penalty. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Husker 0 Report post Posted March 11, 2010 I always hate to have loud noise penalties called where the stick hits the boards flat and makes a bang. I get called for roughs to when people aren't paying attention and turn into me, or try to stand me up when I cut to the net. Non Checking league. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chadd 916 Report post Posted March 11, 2010 I always hate to have loud noise penalties called where the stick hits the boards flat and makes a bang. I get called for roughs to when people aren't paying attention and turn into me, or try to stand me up when I cut to the net. Non Checking league.In my diving classes, I teach people to make sure they bang their stick, yell an obscenity and stay down for at least 10 seconds before moving. It seems to work more often than not. ;) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shotty 7 Report post Posted March 11, 2010 Lol, I take it to seriously and play as if I don't block the shot it will be a penalty....even if it means blocking it with your visor. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
furlanitalia 1 Report post Posted March 11, 2010 Haha, yah I got lucky on that one lol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Husker 0 Report post Posted March 12, 2010 In my diving classes, I teach people to make sure they bang their stick, yell an obscenity and stay down for at least 10 seconds before moving. It seems to work more often than not. ;)Hahaha, As funny as it sounds we had a guy playing in a beer league that legitimately dove for calls. If someone poke checked him from the side and only caught his stick this guy would swan dive onto the ice. Was great for a laugh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Apes44 7 Report post Posted March 12, 2010 My coach in batam level was thrown out for calling the ref "Fish" when trying to get his attention, the best part is apparently the ref was wearing a friends jersey whose last name was "Fish" and it was on the back of the jersey! Myself though when I was like 10, I got 2 for excessive celebration, as I was imitating the Denver Bronco's Mile High Salute (just taking the glove off and saluting each other) with a teammate after we scored the go ahead goal in a playoff game...then questioned if I was allowed to celebrate after a goal and got 2 more for unsportsmanlike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eric42434224 1 Report post Posted March 12, 2010 I was on a breakaway in beer league, and got tripped from behind. I was going full speed, and fell. Got up on my knees but by that time, I was already in the crease. I knew I was going to slide into the goalie, so I upened up my arms to kind of hug him when we hit to kind of keep him from going flying into a post. The goalie is a friend (not close...just at the rink), and plowed into him, wrapped up with my arms, and both fell into the goal. There was absolutely zero chance of avoiding the hit. I was called for roughing or goalie interference or something. Even the goalie was saying to the ref "really?". Oh well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jjleip11 0 Report post Posted March 15, 2010 Had two great (read "terrible") calls just last week in one game:1st one, was on me, as I skated up to the ref to ask him to make calls both ways - of course, we all think we're getting the worst of the calls, but in this case it was true. I'm a captain, so I thought it was ok for me to talk to him. As soon as I say anything to him, he gives me two minutes for "mouthing off"...um...ok...even though I've got an A on my jersey and I didn't raise my voice or anything. Plus he says I skated up to him too fast and threatened him by doing so.2nd one was later in the game when the same guy called a triple minor penalty...yeah, you read that correctly. He gave one guy on our squad three double minors for one infraction. When we brought it to his attention that this is not a possible penalty scenario, he just ignored us. So, watch out, you don't want to get the ever-elusive and rarely-seen triple minor...EDIT: Duh, not three double minors, just three minors. Give me a break, it's the end of a Monday! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chippa13 1844 Report post Posted March 15, 2010 What the hell could a guy do to get three double minors on the same play? By the way, I think that would be a sextuple minor, but really, what did he do and why didn't somebody stop him after say the third or fourth? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
furlanitalia 1 Report post Posted March 15, 2010 What the hell could a guy do to get three double minors on the same play? By the way, I think that would be a sextuple minor, but really, what did he do and why didn't somebody stop him after say the third or fourth?I think it was just three 2 minute penalties, not 3 double minors. Not me but I guy on my team got a great one the other day. Big guy and he comes out from behind the net with the puck hard. Two defencemen close in on him, collide with each other, and then our guy comes in. One of their players falls down, the other ices the puck and the whistle is blown. The other guy from the collision isn't getting up, and for some reason our guy goes to the box (no idea why he did this.) Anyway the ref comes over to him and says "I wasn't going to give you anything but since you're sitting here I guess I will". So our guy gets 4 minutes for body checking in a 5-4 game. It was so ridiculous our whole bench couldn't stop laughing at our guy for taking a seat for no reason. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shotty 7 Report post Posted March 15, 2010 I think it was just three 2 minute penalties, not 3 double minors.because that would be a "triple double" for a total of 12 minutes... which is a combination of any three of the following in one play by a single player: butt ending, head butting, high sticking, spearing & drawing blood. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeyman11385 1 Report post Posted March 16, 2010 Aren't those all 5 minute majors? I could only think of accidentally high sticking 3 guys and drawing blood all 3 times, but after the second one I'm sure the ref would just give you a major and tell you to go home. If the other team had not taken your head off first. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shotty 7 Report post Posted March 16, 2010 i dont know, i was being totally facetious... the dude said "three double minors" when he meant "three minors for 6m"... when it comes down to it, i dont even think a 12 minute penalty exists, unless you get 2 and 10. in which case the ten doesnt count against the team. so, you're absolutely right, he'd get tossed and probably given 5 and a game on the scoresheet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Too Old 1 Report post Posted March 19, 2010 I'd say I know one that comes to mind VERY easily for me. Roughly 3 minutes left in the game and we were up something like 9-2 or 9-3. I had the puck playing right wing and was cutting to circle the opponent's net and pass it out to our center in the slot. As I crossed over with all weight on my left leg I was crosschecked. Two officials even for our B league game. Neither called the penalty. In fact, they let play continue until they realized I wasn't getting up off the ice. Broken left fibula. Worst (non) call I've ever seen. I asked the zebras if they wanted to match composite samples from the back of my jersey to the other player's stick... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites