Sacrifising performance for Weight

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well i just got back from my hockey game, and i broke another god dam easton stick, ive been thru 3 stealths, 1 sl and 2 st's from october till now, i play midget AAA hockey and i play about 4 times a week, i dont know whats going on with company's in the last few years but everytime they make new sticks thats lighter and the durability is shittier, i dono if its just me experiencing these problems but i dono those are only eastons im mentioning i can continue the list if i can, i really like my endure rightnow but it feels like a hunk a lumber i dont know why

[donkey87 0]

Try this - Breaking Sticks - this deals with your problem

[Miike 1]

Stop buying Easton, that will solve your problem.

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i went to tps, used them all and the longest lasting one was a response rubber a last or couple year ago model, i tried inno those arent bad i find they kinda shoot funny, and well i tried bauer and the best one is the endure and it feels like a 30 lbs training stick with extra ruberized coating

[Jason Harris 31]

The problem is the lighter sticks sell better than heavier sticks. We're only talking one to two ounces, but I've heard guys refer to sticks in the upper 400 gram range as tanks -- "I don't know whether I could get used to using such a tank...." That's actually ludicrous when you consider many of the NHLers are using sticks of that weight.

Anyway, all the manufacturers are scurrying to lighten their sticks while still maintaining decent durability. Some have been more successful than others. If it's any encouragement, Sweden has told me they feel stick weights have possibly reached their minimum, and they feel manufacturers will begin concentrating on durability.

[jimmy 194]

..., and they feel manufacturers will begin concentrating on durability.

Oh I hope not ;) I just bought a stick repair dealership. :D $29.99 and your $180 stick will be good as new.

[donkey87 0]

i went to tps, used them all and the longest lasting one was a response rubber a last or couple year ago model, i tried inno those arent bad i find they kinda shoot funny, and well i tried bauer and the best one is the endure and it feels like a 30 lbs training stick with extra ruberized coating

If the Endure feels like a 30lbs. training stick, then perhaps you should try someweight training ;) .

[KingPest19 0]

how would these poor kids survived growing up with nothing but wood sticks to use and composites a long way off??

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haha lol no its just akward when you go from a stealth to a endure

[Ogie Oglethorpe 14]

The problem is the lighter sticks sell better than heavier sticks. We're only talking one to two ounces, but I've heard guys refer to sticks in the upper 400 gram range as tanks -- "I don't know whether I could get used to using such a tank...." That's actually ludicrous when you consider many of the NHLers are using sticks of that weight.

Anyway, all the manufacturers are scurrying to lighten their sticks while still maintaining decent durability. Some have been more successful than others. If it's any encouragement, Sweden has told me they feel stick weights have possibly reached their minimum, and they feel manufacturers will begin concentrating on durability.

Amen! Consider anything under 550grams light and STFU! I couldn't agree more. "Back in the day" no one weighed sticks. Wood sticks probably weighed 700-800 grams (just a guess). Even the lightest wood stick probably still weighs around 600-650 grams.

It's just simple science. By removing materials to make it lighter - it's bound to be less durable. Now, it's possible they could just use more carbon fiber and perhaps weave in strands of titanum or something, but the cost of something like that would be astronomical.

Plus, let's face it, the stick companies DO want them to break (so you'll buy new ones). Everyone over-hypes the importance of the lightness of the stick.

SO.... don't worry about the weight. If Easton's break on you too much, then you should move onto another brand. Why not try the Bauer Endure or something from Inno/Warrior?

[Kovy_Ribs_Fedo 3]

The warrior Starskie of my bro is incredibly light and is damn durable. He used it since like 2 months, and it's still in perfect shape...

[ktang 34]

..., and they feel manufacturers will begin concentrating on durability.

Oh I hope not ;) I just bought a stick repair dealership. :D $29.99 and your $180 stick will be good as new.

So, you went ahead with it... stick / shaft repair - how much would you pay?

Have you considered buying broken sticks and re-assembling them (Rustybender's idea)?

E.g. two broken sticks, using the lower half of one stick, and the upper half of another to re-create an almost-new stick for sale to a beer-leaguer wanting to try out a performance OPS for a cheap price.

The beer-leaguer may even upgrade to a new OPS in the future if s/he sees a noticeable performance improvement.

[Chadd 916]

..., and they feel manufacturers will begin concentrating on durability.

Oh I hope not ;) I just bought a stick repair dealership. :D $29.99 and your $180 stick will be good as new.

SRS or stickfix?

[slapshot19 0]

... I really like that idea... the one about frankensteining 2 sticks together...... I play AA midget hockey and I'd definetely use a mix of different sticks fused together.. I'm playing witha fixed up vapor xxx rigth now.. its been fixed twice... and i love it!...someone should really go ahead with that idea!

[Rustybender 0]

Jimmy please keep us posted on how the stick repair business goes for you. I'd love to know what you think of it.

Oh, and if you want to use my idea, my commision is very reasonable ;)

[jimmy 194]

I went with SRS. I liked their repair method/materials better than stik-fix. I've seen the stik-fix repairs and they are awesome, but I just chose the other for a couple of other reasons, one being cost of consumables. I already have three sticks lined up for repairs, and don't even have my kit yet. Should have tomorrow.

We'll see how it goes.

And yes, I will hybred repairs! I was thinking a TPS butt end, a CCM middle, a Salming taper, and a Pacrow blade! :D

BTW, SRS will soon have blade repairs, for the complete package.

[Patrick67 1]

A picture can say a 1000 words... It sounds really cool, but can't picture it inside my head. Would to you snap a few (in process) while you repair the sticks. :)

[malcb33 100]

Jimmy, would it be posible for you to make 8"or 9" composite but ends?

[Edge 0]

Stop buying Easton, that will solve your problem.

That's a stupid response...i'm not going to get into the anti-Easton arguement, but i've broken just as many Bauer and TPS sticks for example as I have Easton. I'm in the process of the Warrior now.

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malcb33 Posted on Jan 16 2006, 08:18 PM

  Jimmy, would it be posible for you to make 8"or 9" composite but ends? 

it would just snap ( end plug)

[Miike 1]

Stop buying Easton, that will solve your problem.

That's a stupid response...i'm not going to get into the anti-Easton arguement, but i've broken just as many Bauer and TPS sticks for example as I have Easton. I'm in the process of the Warrior now.

I've used 2 Easton SL's and a few Synergys over the years, SLs both this year, and they've all broke just above the blade, i turned one into a shaft, PERFECT condition, i get a pass in practice for a one time and before i make contact with the puck the shaft snaps in to. Needless to say i sold the other shaft ASAP. As for my experience with other OPS's, i have been using TPS XN10's since mid Novemeber, used 4-5 times a week, and not a chip out of them or anything. Not one complaint at all. (Thanks Rob)

Im now going into 2 Salming shafts, that i hear are tanks aswell.

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Easton stick are sooo not Consistent.

[Edge 0]

Nothing's consistent! So on every other brand, there's a set date or month where they break? Like i said, i'm not going to get into an anti-Easton arguement with you or anyone else, but EVERYONE has different experiences with sticks. You're not going to find much of a pattern in durability if you take everyone who has used a certain stick.

[gotdangles16 0]

damn Jimmy post some pics of that baby when its done

[Accord 0]

Stop buying Easton, that will solve your problem.

Best advice i've read.