Hoffer 0 Report post Posted March 6, 2007 Yes but would he not be faster with all four wheels on the floor? Also how does going from forward to backwards feel on a frame meant for all 80’s when you have a setup of 72-76-80-80? I remember at one time I skated on my sensors with a 72-72-80-80 setup and it was throwing me off so I went back to what it was meant to be. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ATLstealth09 0 Report post Posted March 7, 2007 Hey, I'm not saying I like the idea, it's just pretty well thought. I definitely skate on the all 80's, and I love it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
narwhal 0 Report post Posted March 7, 2007 CCM 852Red Star E-FrameRevision wheelsBoss Titanium bearings Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheSnake22 0 Report post Posted March 7, 2007 nice setup nahwhal... hows the wheel clearance in the front? looks like you might have had to dremel a bit... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ATLstealth09 0 Report post Posted March 7, 2007 I don't think any dremmeling was required. The picture may just be at a skewed angle. The E-Frame is made to be mounted on any boot that is either flat or recessed. Unless you've seen a boot that protrudes on the outsole, there should be no need to dremmel unless you are messing with wheel sizes or using a chassis on which the wheels are meant to protrude over the mounting bases. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheSnake22 0 Report post Posted March 7, 2007 word... you're right i'm dumb... it's late and i saw the pic and the wheels look pretty damn close to the sole... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
narwhal 0 Report post Posted March 7, 2007 Yeah, like ATL said, no dremmeling needed. Clearance is only at a few mm on the second wheel, but that's all you need. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patrick67 1 Report post Posted March 7, 2007 Nice skate, classic setup with the boot and frame + nice wheels and bearings.Good job. :-) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Clark12 0 Report post Posted March 7, 2007 This may sound stupid but how can you use a Hummer chassis with the 80,80,76,72 setup and have all four wheels on the playing surface? Or do the wheels eventually wear down to the point where the chassis/wheels ride flat?A 80,80,76,72 setup on the hummer is the only combination other than all 80s where all the wheels touch the ground. They they dont touch by much, but they all defintely touch.wouldn't that give you a lot of wheel slip?Never thought of that, could go a long way to explaining me slipping more frequently when stopping.Yes but would he not be faster with all four wheels on the floor? Also how does going from forward to backwards feel on a frame meant for all 80’s when you have a setup of 72-76-80-80? I remember at one time I skated on my sensors with a 72-72-80-80 setup and it was throwing me off so I went back to what it was meant to be.I actually find it alot easier to pivot with 72-76-80-80 than I did with an all 80 set-up.I understand that my setup may not be everyones cup of tea but Im comfortable skating with it and I think at the end of the day thats all that really matters. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hoffer 0 Report post Posted March 7, 2007 Nice setup narwhal I use to have a pair of 852’s on a mission predator frame. I really liked them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chadbrochill 0 Report post Posted March 9, 2007 i just converted a pair of vapor xxx's ill post up a pic when i get a chance Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chadbrochill 0 Report post Posted March 12, 2007 courtesy of cougarcaptain's fine work: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cougarscaptain87 12 Report post Posted March 12, 2007 first full conversion, not bad start eh? :P Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OhMyGodImOnFire 0 Report post Posted March 12, 2007 Yes but would he not be faster with all four wheels on the floor? Hmmm...why is that? I know it's true, not questioning it, but why? wouldn't there be less friction? I know speed ice skates have something special (no idea what it's called) that keeps the blade on the ice longer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ATLstealth09 0 Report post Posted March 12, 2007 The weight is distributed across all of the wheels, balancing out the pressure and friction on the wheels and bearings, allowing the wheels to retain more of their original shape, and for the bearings to carry less of a load. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wickedlite44 0 Report post Posted March 12, 2007 Yes but would he not be faster with all four wheels on the floor? Hmmm...why is that? I know it's true, not questioning it, but why? wouldn't there be less friction? I know speed ice skates have something special (no idea what it's called) that keeps the blade on the ice longer.They are called Clap Skates, they have a spring on the chassis that allows the blade to stay down. I've seen them before, but not 100% sure guys. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OhMyGodImOnFire 0 Report post Posted March 12, 2007 Yeah, that's what I think they are, sounds about right. I remember watching the olympics and this one guy was bitchin about how his skates would retract too early. I guess it works with teh same concept that ATL said. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patrick67 1 Report post Posted March 13, 2007 They pretty much broke all world records after that skate came out.Must be annoying to have been the best skater of your time and holder of a world record, and the only reason it got beat was because of the skates...They pretty much broke all world records after that skate came out.Must be annoying to have been the best skater of your time and holder of a world record, and the only reason it got beat was because of the skates... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OhMyGodImOnFire 0 Report post Posted March 13, 2007 Well hey, most records (where no rules or equipment or anything have changed) keep being broken over and over again. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patrick67 1 Report post Posted March 13, 2007 Yeah that's natural, but I would prefer it was the athlete and not just the equipment that had improved. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
althoma1 574 Report post Posted March 14, 2007 (edited) Mission L7s with Sprung Chassis. I haven't really used these yet as I just got them mounted (picked them up from the LHS today), the roller season here doesn't start until May and the weather really isn't suitable for skating outside right now, but I'm looking forward to using them. I'm going to pick up a few more 80a Rink Rat wheels for them...I was using the Tuuk Rocker last year (mounted on a pair of Nike VForce boots..they'll now be a backup pair unless I don't like the new setup for some reason) and have some 72mm 80a's that I was mixing with the 76mm 80a's, but the Sprung uses all 76mm wheels so I'm short a couple which is why I've used the 76a red wheels at the front for now. Edited March 14, 2007 by althoma1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ATLstealth09 0 Report post Posted March 14, 2007 Mission L7s with Sprung Chassis. I haven't really used these yet as I just got them mounted (picked them up from the LHS today), the roller season here doesn't start until May and the weather really isn't suitable for skating outside right now, but I'm looking forward to using them. I'm going to pick up a few more 80a Rink Rat wheels for them...I was using the Tuuk Rocker last year (mounted on a pair of Nike VForce boots..they'll now be a backup pair unless I don't like the new setup for some reason) and have some 72mm 80a's that I was mixing with the 76mm 80a's, but the Srung uses all 76mm wheels so I'm short a couple which is why I've used the 76a red wheels at the front for now.I am really liking these. That's a really nice combination. It's almost like the white parts on the skate match the chassis. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
althoma1 574 Report post Posted March 14, 2007 I am really liking these. That's a really nice combination. It's almost like the white parts on the skate match the chassis.Thanks...I like that too. They'd look even better with some all silver or black wheels. That way the white chassis would match with the white accents in the boot and the wheels would compliment the silver or black...the silver would also make it similar to a steel ice blade. However, I do like the Rink Rats for Sport Court after trying them last year (started out with a durometer that was too soft for my size and had a couple wheels crack off the hub, however Rink Rat customer service was great and warrantied those wheels with a harder set)so unless Rink Rat changes there colour scheme or I find something equally good it's probably going to be all Yellow and Silver 80a MB816s or Yellow and Silver Hot Shots (I do have 4 80a 76mm Hot Shots, but don't have a full set of 76mm indoor wheels in any one colour..only outdoor wheels). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Archangel#16 1 Report post Posted March 14, 2007 If you could somehow find the RR MB816 wheels used on the wicked ones, you would have one great set upIf you could somehow find the RR MB816 wheels used on the wicked ones, you would have one great set up Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sprungster 5 Report post Posted March 14, 2007 The Wicked 1s (not an ice boot in an ice boot moment) skated great at W. Covina using Genesis wheels. Totally reliable and predictable. Laced tight to the instep and tied off, leaving the top three eyelets open. Solid. The (very inexpensive) Tours are like super stiff Chucks. They're four ounces less per boot than the Wickeds. Laced up tight, like the old school boots they resemble so much, they allow a lot of use of your feet. Hardcore sprinting crossovers on the front two wheels of the skates. With two pairs of socks, the puck hits didn't do damage. Also on Genesis wheels. Light and Wild.The ice 7K Pumps are a good example of better boot for the buck. These are great boots with just the right amount of give at the top around the cuff, so there's no dig. They're Stiff, Light and Comfortable.The 70s are as stiff as the Wickeds and RBKs, yet still feel sort of like the Tours. Wowsers.The Grafs fit me and I still sent them off to their rightful owner. Tough moment.The Fuels were great right of the box.I had a bunch of Flys. My first test boot after the Externos. Everybody used them for two years and they're still out there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites