NBH ONE90 Initial Thoughts

[greech 4]

Doesn't having a pair of skates custom fitted for you kind of skew your research results though? When I go in to a store all I am going to get is an out-of-the-box pair of skates (both skates being the same length and width) and not a pair of skates custom fitted to the shape of my actual feet. I understand they want you to bake them but obviously you wouldn't really care to because what could be left to mold since they were completely made for your feet? Not knocking JR's ability to give an unbiased review (I know he has been very fair in the past with such reviews) but knocking Bauer's method by which they outfit their reviewers.

I had one90's molded as part of a demo at a recent hockey show...you'll be plesantly surprised when you get an out-of-box pair on your feet.

[chippa13 1844]

Wow wow wow wow...

Baked them...and the outer boot shape changed...I thought I was seeing things...but it did. The outer "skin"...some squares got bigger and some got smaller.

Skated tonight and spare a few pain under my foot, they felt really good. I definitely need some shorter shin pads (I wear 16s because my S500s are shorter, and they rubbed right above my ankle) I did not have to tinker with a forward radius - the heel lift did its job. I am still kinda concerned about the pain under my foot as I get that with all skates. I may have to try to swap insoles or something.

Could be a little new steelitis that your suffering. I find that whenever I'm skating on new steel, be it on new skates or replaced steel, that I'll get pain in the bottom of my foot for the first few twirls on them. It is usually gone by the third sharpening or so.

[Hockey DeVoTee 1]

JR... I Assume from your lack of updating your experience with the One90's that you got tired of all the asinine comments about testing a skate that was custom built vs. stock skate.

I value and hold your opinion in high regard whether your testing a skate that is "custom" or "out of the box". PLEASE provide feedback on your experience concerning the One90 & the new Tuuk Holder.

THANKS in advance!!!

[Jake 0]

It is clear to me that he is so disgusted by the new skate that he has probably already tossed them off a bridge.

[gavin 0]

Wow wow wow wow...

Baked them...and the outer boot shape changed...I thought I was seeing things...but it did. The outer "skin"...some squares got bigger and some got smaller.

Skated tonight and spare a few pain under my foot, they felt really good. I definitely need some shorter shin pads (I wear 16s because my S500s are shorter, and they rubbed right above my ankle) I did not have to tinker with a forward radius - the heel lift did its job. I am still kinda concerned about the pain under my foot as I get that with all skates. I may have to try to swap insoles or something.

Does that mean they've fully copied the "moldable unibase/exoskeloton" idea pioneered by Kor? Or is it not the same idea?

[JR Boucicaut 3801]

It is clear to me that he is so disgusted by the new skate that he has probably already tossed them off a bridge.

Nope, I've just been busy.

The skate is doing great. I'm getting used to the Superfeet insoles - wearing them in my shoes as it is more support than a stock insole.

Gavin - no, not the same at all. The external shape of the boot changes when it is baked. KOr doesn't do it to the extent that this boot does.

[ddibrano77 0]

superfeet insoles are a life saver...have used them for two years now in my shoes.

Interesting them making their way into hockey skates but it makes sense as they are made to correct any foot problems someone may have.

[JR Boucicaut 3801]

Superfeet made Bauer's insoles years ago. It is essentially the same, but with more support.

[JR Boucicaut 3801]

I squeezed in 4 pick-up sessions this week. The skates are still breaking in great - however, I had to ditch the Superfeet insoles. I was getting worse pain in them than I was with the stock insoles. I skated Monday and they hurt with every stride I took. I ended up taking them out and skated with the stock ones and it felt much better.

Everything has been holding up great. Got some weird looks out there on the ice - people were like "What are those?" :)

[jbyun04 7]

I squeezed in 4 pick-up sessions this week. The skates are still breaking in great - however, I had to ditch the Superfeet insoles. I was getting worse pain in them than I was with the stock insoles. I skated Monday and they hurt with every stride I took. I ended up taking them out and skated with the stock ones and it felt much better.

Everything has been holding up great. Got some weird looks out there on the ice - people were like "What are those?" :)

those are the best kind of looks :lol:

[djinferno 2]

I squeezed in 4 pick-up sessions this week. The skates are still breaking in great - however, I had to ditch the Superfeet insoles. I was getting worse pain in them than I was with the stock insoles. I skated Monday and they hurt with every stride I took. I ended up taking them out and skated with the stock ones and it felt much better.

Everything has been holding up great. Got some weird looks out there on the ice - people were like "What are those?" :)

that makes it all worth it

Like a new car

[Jason 65]

JR,

Couple questions... I got a pair of One90's the other day. I have yet to bake them. How are these skates supposed to bake for? Also, do they recommend that you walk around in them after baking and flex forward to break them in? I know I did that with my XXX's. I was pretty sure that they say not to, but I like the idea of breaking the boot in a little quicker. I haven't noticed any negative effects on the skates I've done this in.

For all you gear heads...

As for how they fit out of the box. I would have to say that they lock your heel in alot better than the XXX's. They really contour to the shape of my foot better than any other skate I've tried on. I've owned XX's and XXX's and sampled Synergy's. These are the only skates I've see where the inside ankle and outside ankle have the bulges in the right place at roughly a 30 degree angle behind for the outside of the skate. The boot really narrows out near the achilles and then widens out for the heel. Getting your foot in is a little tougher than normal, but once in they feel great. The heel width seems similar to Vapors. However, the forefoot is slightly wider. I don't think they are near as wide as 8090's though. They are closer to Vapors IMO. The tongues are sweet. They have excellent lace bite protection. The toe cap is alot better shaped than the Vapor lines. I like how they seem to be shallower than the Vapors. I don't have thick feet at all. How is that working for you JR? I thought you had thicker feet. They are stiff as hell. Similar to a pro stiffness Vapor XXX.

Keep in mind I haven't baked them or skated in them. All I've done so far is tried them on a few times and I tied them up super tight and walked around a bit. I can't wait to skate in them. I will update you folks as soon as I do. Should be on Friday or Saturday. I'm getting them profiled and baked in the next couple days.

These are 8.5D retail skate we are talking about.

[JR Boucicaut 3801]

Jason, I wouldn't recommend doing that when you bake the skate.

Remember, mine are custom. I did skate in a previous model and it was pretty shallow for me.

[Svatos37 0]

o man i am drooling over this topic. If only I had the money! :(

[mew1838 0]

Jason how did you get em?

[Jason 65]

I got the skates off of ebay. I just happened to see a pair in my size and the price was staying fairly low. I ended up getting them for about $300 CAD cheaper than I would have in the store here in Vancouver. Plus, I get to skate in them about a month before the general public.

Thanks for the info JR. I will refrain from flexing them too much when I bake them. How long should I bake them for? I'm wondering if my LHS will even know how long to do them seeing as they don't have any pairs in stock yet.

[TBLfan 25]

My local pro shop has a pair in and MAN! Those are some sick skates!!! They're sooo light! And probably the stiffest skates in the history of the world, lol.

[Miserable 6]

JR,

Anyway you could give us some more thoughts now that it's getting a little closer to the release date?

[JR Boucicaut 3801]

Actually I haven't skated for 2 wks orso...I jacked up my ankle pretty good (unrelated, I did it at work)

I should be good to go next week.

Last night I was closing up the store and I saw a guy signing up for drop-in with a Marlies equipment bag and a pair of them. Asked him if he played for them, he said yes. Then I asked him how he liked them - and they were brand new, first time skate. Told him that it'll take a skate to adjust to the LS2p...and then I watched him...and he was catching the toe a little bit. But he adjusted...

[Miserable 6]

Sorry to hear about the ankle man. Thanks for the update though.

[pantherfan 0]

Yeh i thought you wernt supposed to even stand on a skate for at least 24 hours after it has been baked

[Hooah4 12]

Maybe he didn't have them baked.

[DarkStar50 679]

New Instructions for Baking One90 Skates:

Preheat oven to a maximum of 175*F/79* C and only heat skates for a maximum of two minutes. The skates are meant to be heated only TWO times. You may stand straight up during the thermal adjustment. Do not walk or forward flex. Wait at least one hour before skating.

This information is direct from the box for One90 skates. I have been skating on the One90 for over two weeks. My short term evaluation is not complete. For the moment regarding baking the skates, it is a different process and experience than other skates I have baked. The skate is a hard boot out of the box that has the shape of your foot. The baking process, when done correctly, and it must be done correctly, truly allows you to shape the skate to and around your foot. I preheated the oven for 5 minutes before putting the skates in. I baked them for 3 minutes in a Mission oven. Yes, that is a minute longer because the first time I baked them(more about that at a different time) I only baked them for 1:45 and did not soften them up nearly enough. Do not over bake the boots!!!! The boots came out soft to shape. I put the skates on sitting on a short foot-stool. This allowed me after lacing up the skates to get my hands down low around the ankle, heel, and forefoot to shape the boot with the strength of my hands. You will be able to pinch, squeeze, and grip the boot around your foot with your hands. As I did this in different areas of the boot I did a ten-count to work the different areas the same amount of time and not to over-do or neglect a certain area. The skate does begin to cool down, in a sense within 5 minutes. By that time I had stopped shaping the boots with my hands and just kept my feet quiet for another 7 minutes. I kept them on for 12 minutes during the thermal adjustment period. The skates will cure within 2 hours to skate on. I recommend giving the skates the 2 hours minimum to set. You have just spent a lot of money. Don't be foolish and rush out to the rink. You will be able to skate on them within the same day. The baking process for the One90 is as critical to the fit as the size and width selected. I am not trying to over emphasis any one area when purchasing this skate. My point for now is take your time when being fitted and then having them baked. These two steps will be very important in your success with the One90 skates.

More to follow down the road........

[tuzzifan44 0]

Forgive me if this has been asked, will the skate work for someone with a relatively flat arch?

[lohnman 0]

I wish you guys could give a little insight on these skates. I have set preordered for my son, it would be nice to know if they are over rated before I go out and drop that kind of money into them. I'm sure they are a great skate. Next year all but one player on the U Maine team will be skating with them. That to me does say alot, but it would be nice to get some feed back from some of you fortunate enough to try them out.