legalized drugs

[All Torhs Team 0]

so it was on fox news last night that mexico has legalized marijuana, heroin and something else. The people can carry little amounts and if it succeeds that amount then there will be penaties. So in school my teacher pointed out that he thinks our president (USA-Bush) is deciding weather or not to pass this also.

Is this good or bad? It will change alot. One major argument was that law enforcers willl be able to spend more time on bigger problems. Well I thought illigal drugs were big problems?!? Im sure theres someone here that knows more about the inside facts or the pros and cons then I do. What do you guys think on this one?

[Vapor 0]

Before 1914 all hard drugs (heroine, coke, etc) were legal. Alcohol prohibition created the mafia and other gangs. Drug prohibition has created violent gangs such as the bloods and crips. Legalizing, taxing, and putting STRINGENT governemnt control on the drugs will be a positive move.

[mack 44]

I'm leaving this open for the hilarity factor.

[Vapor 0]

I'm leaving this open for the hilarity factor.

ought ohhh, a post about legalized drugs, bettttter take it down??

[Thockey17 1]

Im going to Mex in a couple weeks :D

[Vapor 0]

to quote good ol' bill clinton, "we've got a hot potato here"

[AtlantaThrashers01 0]

i thought they got that in US already? Im pretty sure they got that in canada like u can carry a certain amount of marajuana or w.e, i remeber seein it on trailer park boys were ricky says sumthing 1 g joints which is legal...

[Vapor 0]

any posseson or even drug related parifinalia will get you cuffed and/or kicked.

[Geeno_56 1]

I dought the us will legalize heroine and a drug like Coke, the only thing that they would legalize would be Mary Jane, and then Canada would have to legalize Weed because people in Canada and/or US would try to smuggle legal US weed into Canada and the US/Canadian border patrol would have to be increased.

[Chadd 916]

It's not going to get legalized in the US. Look at how they restrict smokes and booze and those are legal. Some have made the case for weed, but even those are weak and can easily be shot full of holes. Harder drugs that are proven to be addictive will not become legalized in the US unless there are major changes in public perception and public policy.

As for Mexico, they now have a reason for not arresting drug smugglers. That could potentially lead to fewer police and military members being bribed by the drug cartels to ignore their actions.

It really doesn't change anything in the US

[New Player 0]

Weed will never be legalized in America unless the Pfizer or Philip Morris name is stamped on your dub sack. But I honestly don't think it's to far fetched for it to happen. Not anytime soon, but it's not out of the question for our kids or grand kids (depending on how old you are now) to be able to go to the CVS or Walgreens or whatever it is 20 years from now and buy a pack of joints with proper ID of course.

They'll have a commercial where Digger the Dermatophyte will not only be living under your toe nails, but will also be kicking back smokin' a fat one

[Chadd 916]

Weed will never be legalized in America unless the Pfizer or Philip Morris name is stamped on your dub sack. But I honestly don't think it's to far fetched for it to happen. Not anytime soon, but it's not out of the question for our kids or grand kids (depending on how old you are now) to be able to go to the CVS or Walgreens or whatever it is 20 years from now and buy a pack of joints with proper ID of course.

They'll have a commercial where Digger the Dermatophyte will not only be living under your toe nails, but will also be kicking back smokin' a fat one

I say there's a better chance cigarrettes will be banned than weed will be made legal.

[bucko 0]

is it good or is it bad?

it is bad, i could maybe handle drugs like weed or something, cause i can handle alcohol, but who can handle hard drugs? simpley nobody can, and for those who are little labile even the "harmless" drugs like weed, could be the entrance to a big "drug career"... i think it´s better to not legalize it, it´s bad for someone who likes to smoke a joint a few times a year but it´s better to not legalize it for dumbasses who want to forget problems...

[devilsrule711 0]

i think it kind of is legalized here like in Colorado its legal to carry a certain amount of marijuana and you can only smoke it unless youre in youre house/apartment/dorm

[Vapor 0]

not colorado, denver

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2005-11-03-pot_x.htm

they just want to unclog the court system with petty crimes... still an arrestable offense, its pretty much the city saying, im not gonna screw with you, but if you give me problems, i will.

[usahockey22 0]

Illegal drugs will not be legalized, but they could possibly be "decriminalized" for small amounts of possession. Meaning they are still illegal, but if you are caught with a small amount, you might only receive a small fine, or be ordered to attend drug classes, but you won't go to jail or have a criminal record.

This has already been done with pot in certain places to an extent...Denver, CO...Ohio...Alaska I believe, and other places. It is happening more and more at the city and state levels because the courts don't want to have to deal with all the hassles of running all the people through the system for small drug amounts. Of course pot is still illegal in federal law, so the feds can move in on anyone they want and bust you for it, although they wouldn't bother except for large quantities. "legalizing" actually means that the drug would become available at the local store, regulated, taxed, etc like alcohol or tobacco. I don't see this happening in the US anytime in the future with any of the current rec. drugs.

Decriminalization is a good idea, because it would get the druggies help instead of just locking them in jail and destroying their lives even more. And then the cops would be forced to go after the big time dealers instead of guys just walking around with a bag of pot. Still, the black market problems and crime associated with it will never dissapear unless the drug is completely legalized. But, don't count on it happening anytime soon. Everyone KNEW pot would be made legal in the 60s/70s and it never happened. There's not as much chance today as there was then.

[Geeno_56 1]

The only way that Weed will be Legalized is if we are in a depression because the government would put taxes on it, and it would mean lots of money for government to get them out of a major hole.

[Tricky4L 0]

A major hole eh? Huge deficit, dissaster in Iraq, Enron like ethics violations in the administration...hell maybe legalizing it would solve the deficit problem with massive taxation and then the rest of the problems would kinda dissapear...short term memory loss could be a bigger tool than your own GOP controlled news station *coughfoxnewscough*

[A_Steeves12 0]

i think its "legal" to be in posession like 6-7 grams of weed on you here in canada. dont quote me on that tho

[Trippingblue 1]

A few years ago Mendocino County (CA) put pot possession at the very bottom of its priorities...basically jaywalking had a higher priority for the police than someone puffing on a j in their own home.

--nick--

[unholygoalie 0]

is it good or is it bad?

it is bad, i could maybe handle drugs like weed or something, cause i can handle alcohol, but who can handle hard drugs? simpley nobody can, and for those who are little labile even the "harmless" drugs like weed, could be the entrance to a big "drug career"... i think it´s better to not legalize it, it´s bad for someone who likes to smoke a joint a few times a year but it´s better to not legalize it for dumbasses who want to forget problems...

So because YOU may have a problem with weed or any other drug, the rest of the nation has to bow to you and your individual needs. Nice. If you can't handle it, don't do it. It's your problem, not anyone elses.

The more liqour stores there are, the more they're a temptation to be robbed. So do we eliminate the liqour stores or prosecute those who abuse the liqour stores?

Alcohol destroys just as many, if not more, lives than any other mind altering drug, yet it's legal.

[Chadd 916]

A few years ago Mendocino County (CA) put pot possession at the very bottom of its priorities...basically jaywalking had a higher priority for the police than someone puffing on a j in their own home.

--nick--

That makes a lot more sense than legalization or decriminalization.

[usahockey22 0]

A few years ago Mendocino County (CA) put pot possession at the very bottom of its priorities...basically jaywalking had a higher priority for the police than someone puffing on a j in their own home.

--nick--

That makes a lot more sense than legalization or decriminalization.

That basically is the idea behind decriminalization, and for that county it would be considered a form of decriminalization...drugs are still illegal, but you just take the criminality away from it, allowing for the police to focus on more important things.

Personally, I think that in a free country, we shouldn't have any illegal drugs/plants, whatever. It would reduce street crime by quite a bit, and it would significantly help the economy with less money being spent fighting drugs, and more money being made taxing them. Of course there will inevitably be more people who destroy themselves because of the availability, but I don't think it would be that much...most people who really want to use hard drugs will be getting them anyway..at least this way they would be dealing with high grade, sterile, regulated products, and not circulating their money into the black market. The tobacco and alcohol companies are currently the only legal "drug dealers", and the two are only really harmful if misused by the user. The addicts will bomb out no matter what, but that's the decision of the individual. I remember in high school though, it was much easier for kids to get some pot than alcohol, simply because one is controlled by the government and one isn't...legalization means more control. All just my opinion, but I'd rather not keep dumping more money into a losing war (or two, or three..)

[Chadd 916]

A few years ago Mendocino County (CA) put pot possession at the very bottom of its priorities...basically jaywalking had a higher priority for the police than someone puffing on a j in their own home.

--nick--

That makes a lot more sense than legalization or decriminalization.

That basically is the idea behind decriminalization, and for that county it would be considered a form of decriminalization...drugs are still illegal, but you just take the criminality away from it, allowing for the police to focus on more important things.

Personally, I think that in a free country, we shouldn't have any illegal drugs/plants, whatever. It would reduce street crime by quite a bit, and it would significantly help the economy with less money being spent fighting drugs, and more money being made taxing them. Of course there will inevitably be more people who destroy themselves because of the availability, but I don't think it would be that much...most people who really want to use hard drugs will be getting them anyway..at least this way they would be dealing with high grade, sterile, regulated products, and not circulating their money into the black market. The tobacco and alcohol companies are currently the only legal "drug dealers", and the two are only really harmful if misused by the user. The addicts will bomb out no matter what, but that's the decision of the individual. I remember in high school though, it was much easier for kids to get some pot than alcohol, simply because one is controlled by the government and one isn't...legalization means more control. All just my opinion, but I'd rather not keep dumping more money into a losing war (or two, or three..)

So much for agreeing with you. I find your logic highly flawed.

[usahockey22 0]

Well, I don't see you stepping up with your own opinion and reasoning behind it... The war on drugs has been fought for how many years? And we haven't put a dent into the crime associated with it, the drug lords, etc...and we dump billions down the drain funding it, as well as paying for thousands of people in prison who are only there for drug offenses. Surely there's a better strategy. If you want an example, look at prohibition of alcohol. All it did is created a surge of violent crime and smuggling/dealing through the black market. Once it was made legal and controlled, it was no longer in the hands of criminals, so that whole market disappeared.