concussion?

[Sven 1]

Thanks for the info, LkptTiger. I will see a doctor soon.

[Lfntn10 0]

Im actually knocked out this season because of a concussion (2nd one this year - 4th overall).

things you notice is that you do things that you dont normally do, you make up and/or you refer to things that never happened (for example on my first concussion, I spent 45 minutes looking for something to eat...in the start menu of my computer). You experience bad headaches, and you tend to feel real nauseus. Because it was a jaw impact my jaw felt fucked too so yeah. Concussions suck, and if I continued playing, one more wouldve sent me 6 feet under.

[hhojman 0]

I don't know where you live and what type of medical insurance you have. But if you have any symptoms as described here (persistent headaches, difficulty to concentrate, etc.) after a head trauma you NEED to see a doctor.

Most likely it is a concussion but there is no way to be sure by just describing the symptoms. This could also be the result of something more serious like a bleeding inside the head. Here in the States, if you go to a doctor who knows something about trauma, you well get a head CT.

But this is a more litigious society than Canada :-\

My advise: Go to a doctor who knows something about trauma. Not any doctor, as some of them are not up to day on head injuries. Either a good family practitioner with experience with sports injuries or the emergency department at a trauma center (ED physicians there are more used to deal with trauma patients). Don't fool yourself thinking along the lines "well, if it doesn't get better in two days, I'll see the doctor".

If you have a concussion, you need to rest. A new head trauma, before you recovered completely, can have very serious consequences. Only a doctor can clear you to go back to play. If you have something more serious... Well, do I need to spell it?

[number21 3]

This story about concussions was on NPR yesterday.

Nothing specific to hockey in the story, but I thought it was pretty informative. Just thought i'd throw it out there if anyone is interested.

(you can download and listen to in on realplayer or windows media)

[hockeydoc 0]

I can't decide if this thread is hilarious or scary...

Just because a doc sends you home doesn't mean he knows nothing. I won't argue that your doc does, as there are a lot of incompetent ones. However the reason you go to a doc for a concussion is to rule out complication caused by one. Death being a possible end result of some of those complications. Most youths concussions have little to be concerned with, but on going issues as described in the initial post is very indicative of some of the complications you should be concerned about.

Have it checked out. It could be your life you save. If you piss away a few hours putting up with all the BS involved with going in and letting a doc examine you to find out you are fine, I would still say it is a worth while investment...

So true that doc's no nothing about concussions. You should let your nearest grocery cashier give you medical advice...LOL, or should I cry?

[nni 0]

I can't decide if this thread is hilarious or scary...

Just because a doc sends you home doesn't mean he knows nothing. I won't argue that your doc does, as there are a lot of incompetent ones. However the reason you go to a doc for a concussion is to rule out complication caused by one. Death being a possible end result of some of those complications. Most youths concussions have little to be concerned with, but on going issues as described in the initial post is very indicative of some of the complications you should be concerned about.

Have it checked out. It could be your life you save. If you piss away a few hours putting up with all the BS involved with going in and letting a doc examine you to find out you are fine, I would still say it is a worth while investment...

So true that doc's no nothing about concussions. You should let your nearest grocery cashier give you medical advice...LOL, or should I cry?

seriously though, what are they going to do for a mild concussion? they told me not to sleep for a while and if anything happens call them back. there is little that can be done to my understanding, except for monitoring the situation. there isn't a treatment that will fix the damage to the brain right away.

[hockeydoc 0]

I can't decide if this thread is hilarious or scary...

Just because a doc sends you home doesn't mean he knows nothing. I won't argue that your doc does, as there are a lot of incompetent ones. However the reason you go to a doc for a concussion is to rule out complication caused by one. Death being a possible end result of some of those complications. Most youths concussions have little to be concerned with, but on going issues as described in the initial post is very indicative of some of the complications you should be concerned about.

Have it checked out. It could be your life you save. If you piss away a few hours putting up with all the BS involved with going in and letting a doc examine you to find out you are fine, I would still say it is a worth while investment...

So true that doc's no nothing about concussions. You should let your nearest grocery cashier give you medical advice...LOL, or should I cry?

seriously though, what are they going to do for a mild concussion? they told me not to sleep for a while and if anything happens call them back. there is little that can be done, except for monitoring the situation. there isn't a magical treatment that will fix the damge to the brain.

Let me try this again. You don't go to the doc to fix what has been done. You go to rule out complications that can arise from what has been done. That is why they soay don't go to sleep, and let them know if anything else happens, to quickly address these possible complications, that could result in death... Don't go to sleep 'cause when you are asleep you can't tell if you vision goes suddenly blurry, or if you suddenly loose you ability to balance etc. If all you have is a concussion then like I said you are probably ok, but who's telling you that after a few days of headaches that you are not dealing with a slow bleed? Your produce clerk, or some hockey guy (or girl) on MSH. What do you think the 5 coaches in USA hockey that died from head trauma died from? It wasn't this concussion you keep claiming no one could do anything for. It was undetected complications caused by the trauma, i.e. aneurisms etc.

Let the incompetent, ignorant, doctors rule out any other issues the head trauma could result in. Or you could roll the dice and hope it's just a concussion that no one can do anything about...The good news is the complications don't always result in death, sometimes just permanant brain damage, with an unlimited number of life altering possibilities.

[nni 0]

I can't decide if this thread is hilarious or scary...

Just because a doc sends you home doesn't mean he knows nothing. I won't argue that your doc does, as there are a lot of incompetent ones. However the reason you go to a doc for a concussion is to rule out complication caused by one. Death being a possible end result of some of those complications. Most youths concussions have little to be concerned with, but on going issues as described in the initial post is very indicative of some of the complications you should be concerned about.

Have it checked out. It could be your life you save. If you piss away a few hours putting up with all the BS involved with going in and letting a doc examine you to find out you are fine, I would still say it is a worth while investment...

So true that doc's no nothing about concussions. You should let your nearest grocery cashier give you medical advice...LOL, or should I cry?

seriously though, what are they going to do for a mild concussion? they told me not to sleep for a while and if anything happens call them back. there is little that can be done, except for monitoring the situation. there isn't a magical treatment that will fix the damge to the brain.

Let me try this again. You don't go to the doc to fix what has been done. You go to rule out complications that can arise from what has been done. That is why they soay don't go to sleep, and let them know if anything else happens, to quickly address these possible complications, that could result in death... Don't go to sleep 'cause when you are asleep you can't tell if you vision goes suddenly blurry, or if you suddenly loose you ability to balance etc. If all you have is a concussion then like I said you are probably ok, but who's telling you that after a few days of headaches that you are not dealing with a slow bleed? Your produce clerk, or some hockey guy (or girl) on MSH. What do you think the 5 coaches in USA hockey that died from head trauma died from? It wasn't this concussion you keep claiming no one could do anything for. It was undetected complications caused by the trauma, i.e. aneurisms etc.

Let the incompetent, ignorant, doctors rule out any other issues the head trauma could result in. Or you could roll the dice and hope it's just a concussion that no one can do anything about...The good news is the complications don't always result in death, sometimes just permanant brain damage, with an unlimited number of life altering possibilities.

i was agreeing with your post. ;)

[hockeydoc 0]

I can't decide if this thread is hilarious or scary...

Just because a doc sends you home doesn't mean he knows nothing. I won't argue that your doc does, as there are a lot of incompetent ones. However the reason you go to a doc for a concussion is to rule out complication caused by one. Death being a possible end result of some of those complications. Most youths concussions have little to be concerned with, but on going issues as described in the initial post is very indicative of some of the complications you should be concerned about.

Have it checked out. It could be your life you save. If you piss away a few hours putting up with all the BS involved with going in and letting a doc examine you to find out you are fine, I would still say it is a worth while investment...

So true that doc's no nothing about concussions. You should let your nearest grocery cashier give you medical advice...LOL, or should I cry?

seriously though, what are they going to do for a mild concussion? they told me not to sleep for a while and if anything happens call them back. there is little that can be done, except for monitoring the situation. there isn't a magical treatment that will fix the damge to the brain.

Let me try this again. You don't go to the doc to fix what has been done. You go to rule out complications that can arise from what has been done. That is why they soay don't go to sleep, and let them know if anything else happens, to quickly address these possible complications, that could result in death... Don't go to sleep 'cause when you are asleep you can't tell if you vision goes suddenly blurry, or if you suddenly loose you ability to balance etc. If all you have is a concussion then like I said you are probably ok, but who's telling you that after a few days of headaches that you are not dealing with a slow bleed? Your produce clerk, or some hockey guy (or girl) on MSH. What do you think the 5 coaches in USA hockey that died from head trauma died from? It wasn't this concussion you keep claiming no one could do anything for. It was undetected complications caused by the trauma, i.e. aneurisms etc.

Let the incompetent, ignorant, doctors rule out any other issues the head trauma could result in. Or you could roll the dice and hope it's just a concussion that no one can do anything about...The good news is the complications don't always result in death, sometimes just permanant brain damage, with an unlimited number of life altering possibilities.

i was agreeing with your post. ;)

It was not my intent to argue with you either. Merely to reiterate how rediculously judgemental we are sometimes about things we know nothing about. In this case it is against the most educated, and tightly regulated professionals in America. We trust some a-hole that pops off about something, yet we won't allow the inconvenience of a trip to a doc. I agree that some are jerks, and incompetent, but even these save lives all the time. I hate going to one myself, however sometimes common sense is that I must endure, as it is still the best option.

In the case of a suspected concussion there are some very serious possible consequences that could result from even a mild occurance, therefore they should always be monitored. Most deaths in head traumas could have been prevented if addressed immediately and proficiently.

[JR Boucicaut 3803]

Just got #7 tonight. I think it may be time to hang 'em up.

[LkptTiger 1]

Seven is a lot.

[number21 3]

Sorry to hear that JR!

[gxc999 7]

Just got #7 tonight. I think it may be time to hang 'em up.

Damn, man that sucks. A league with less contact might help a lot, eh?

[Fire0nIce228 1]

Dont backcheck so hard.

[JR Boucicaut 3803]

Nope, cut back into the zone, the defenseman had about 3" or so inches on me and was wearing shoulder pads. He did not see me, I saw him, but then he turned up and it was too late for me. Caught me in the jaw with his shoulder.

[chippa13 1844]

Number 7, bummer. Say, how is your brother Brett doing? And is Dad still fighting with Bobby Clarke all the time?.

Seriously though, are you wearing a mouthpiece to try and protect the noodle a little? It may help.

[JR Boucicaut 3803]

Been wearing a mouthguard since #6 which was about 5 yrs ago.

I don't know, I don't know if a cage would've helped, don't know if I should be playing anymore...

[chippa13 1844]

From the way today's masks look to me, I don't think a cage would have helped much unless you were rocking a serious chin cup.

[epstud74 24]

I've had 5 or 6 myself, but I guess it depends on the severity of the concussion as well.

[RadioGaGa 162]

Been wearing a mouthguard since #6 which was about 5 yrs ago.

I don't know, I don't know if a cage would've helped, don't know if I should be playing anymore...

If you are that unsure...it probably is time to hang 'em up. If you go there hesitant or unsure (in your interest and your health) you are probably more likely to end up hurt. And maybe not even an concussion. You could be so worried about another head shot, you'll end up buggerin' up a knee or something.

[Law Goalie 147]

That's rough. Take care of yourself. Worry about hockey later.

The only thing I've heard that is guaranteed to reduce the frequency, severity and effective duration of concussions is neck strength.

[TBLfan 25]

I don't think it's time to hang them up but it's probably time to think about making a change. Whether it be adding additional protection or going down a league.

I can definitely understand the hesitation on jumping back in after another injury.

[WSjo22 1]

That's rough. Take care of yourself. Worry about hockey later.

The only thing I've heard that is guaranteed to reduce the frequency, severity and effective duration of concussions is neck strength.

One thing that helped me was this.....I've had about 8 total although a only the first few were bad....The trainers used to put extra neck exercises in my weight program to strength my neck. Only two of my concussions come from hockey though, the other were from football where it was getting so bad that the last year I played I was getting small concussions everytime my head would make contact with something while playing......Def. not worth the risk for the scholarship......The amount of problems and side effects I've had from concussions is ridiculous

[number21 3]

Hope you don't have to hang 'em up. But you're the best judge of how you feel.

You could go into coaching kids, if you can stomach the parents.

[JR Boucicaut 3803]

Yeah my neck area and upper back are absolutely killing me right now. And WSjo is exactly right...it takes less to get one after you've had a lot.

I'd never coach hockey. LOL

Really don't know what to do at this point. I don't know if a cage would've helped, I really don't know, I haven't worn a cage since I was told I didn't have to.