9.11.01

[donkey87 0]

But there's no national holiday for the attacks on Pearl Harbor, which brought the States into WWII.

There is National Pearl Harbor Remembrance Day, but few people bother to remember that it actually exists.

If people don't get the day off, it isn't a "real" holiday for most people.

Most people don't even understand "real" holidays like Veterans day or Memorial day.

[Chadd 916]

But there's no national holiday for the attacks on Pearl Harbor, which brought the States into WWII.

There is National Pearl Harbor Remembrance Day, but few people bother to remember that it actually exists.

If people don't get the day off, it isn't a "real" holiday for most people.

Most people don't even understand "real" holidays like Veterans day or Memorial day.

I agree. For most it just means a long weekend.

[RadioGaGa 162]

their main problem... the lack of building back up the WTC area with some kind of magnificent buildings/memorial...

For every person who says it doesn't go up fast enough there will be AT LEAST that many that say it went up too soon. Bloomberg was on today and he was saying that there has been constant work (behind the scenes) to get the buliding started. You can't just build there without tons of thought, planning, security and $$$$$$$$$$$$$

[RadioGaGa 162]

RadioGaga- It seems what may be holding it up the most is that they cannot decide what to actually make. The plan seems to change monthly. $$ is probably the least of the trouble.

The plans are approved.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/09/10/pataki.co...tary/index.html

Should take 5 years to fully build. I wouldn't be surpirsed at all if it's opening on Sept 11, 2011 is the cornerstone of the 10th Anniversary Remembrances.

[Chadd 916]

Interesting rant, you need to use IE to view the video.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6210240/

[TCsnipes9 0]

i was in 7th grade in art class. a lot like what every one said, i just remeber the principal coming over the speakers saying to get to a tv. i honestly cant believe that was 5 years ago... its such a vivid memory.

[Juice_Slowjamz 0]

Yea, they really shit the bed on rebuilding the site. 5 years just for plans? A sports stadium takes less time.

[Chadd 916]

Yea, they really shit the bed on rebuilding the site. 5 years just for plans? A sports stadium takes less time.

Anywhere other than Pittsburgh

[RadioGaGa 162]

Interesting rant, you need to use IE to view the video.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6210240/

Seriously...for a building/facility/memorial to be re-built on that site now...they would have had to start within a year of the collapse. It took...what, 6-7 MONTHS to fully clear that site...if they had started building right after that it would have been called a dishonor to the memory of the fallen to re-build so quickly...He'd probably be the one making THAT rant too.

The BIG HOLE IN THE GROUND is a Memorial until the "real one" goes up. Everytime that a widow cries at the thought of a lost husband is a memorial...the children who were born in Jan 2002, and never met their fathers are a memorial. The fathers/grandmother/aunts and uncles raising children that lost mothers are a memorial. 70,000 people standing in total silence before a football game is a memorial. A bunch of guys on a message board about HOCKEY, discussing how we felt 5 years years ago is a memorial...every firefighter, police officer & port authority worker who ran into that disaster while he was safe in a studio somewhere ...and more importantly, the ones who came out with someone in their arms..are memorials.

Bullshit, there's no Memorial. Just because there isn't a great big one at Ground Zero...he's gonna turn that into an anti-Bush rant.

I can't remember...is NBC owned by a "Bush friendly" company...oh, wait...probably not!

Good job...reference burying soldiers at Gettysburg in relation to this...WTF? Yeah...I guess creating a memorial was a little easier in 1777

Then he uses the "Twilight Zone" as a reference...what fucking planet is this guy from.

Just as the terrorists have succeeded -- are still succeeding -- as long as there is no memorial and no construction here at Ground Zero.

Bloomberg said today, that there is tons of work being done to re-build. I guess he missed that interview.

Ya know what...every now and then...even I have to say "Screw the media, and all of our ranting just to hear ourselves talk"

Listening to that actually makes me mad (as if you couldn't tell if you've read this far). What a prick.

[EDIT] Upon a re-read...I edited for language.

[Chadd 916]

I wasn't endorsing the entirety of his speech, he does raise interesting points. I think the second half was a little less accurate and rambling, but I did find it interesting.

[RadioGaGa 162]

I wasn't endorsing the entirety of his speech, he does raise interesting points. I think the second half was a little less accurate and rambling, but I did find it interesting.

I didn't think you were necessarily endorsing any of it...that's up to you to decide..I just quoted for point of reference.

[mack 44]

Nearing the end of the day here and I'm glad to say this thread is the only way this day was mentioned to me all day.

[DarkStar50 679]

I was driving in to the rinks with CBS-AM 880(NYC) news radio on at 8:45 AM when the traffic chopper saw the smoke at WTC from the first plane. By the time I got into the building the second plane had hit. We have TVs all over the building. It was on in front of rink 1 where the figure skaters practice. It was a totally surreal experience in the beginning that my mind had a lot of problems comprehending. The offices are on the second floor. I was going back and forth between my desk and the main offices with the TVs on the second floor tuned in. At one point we were all watching together. When they announced the plane into the Pentagon, that was the turning point for me. No going back now. As we watched the first tower fall it was sad and shocking at the same time. Our top manager came in at this point. He had worked in downtown Manhattan and knew a lot of people who worked there. Once he saw the Towers fall, he just said everything is different now. He knew the impact of what had just happened in many, many ways. All during this time, the figure skaters were still practicing in their own world. It was bizarre at that moment. We quickly shut down all operations in the building and everyone was sent home.

Around 2 PM that day I placed a call to find out if my friend on Wall Street was safe to his house. His wife said he got out Ok but getting out of lower Manhattan was a mess to get across the Hudson to NJ. As I drove down to his house to check on his kids, I could see the smoke from 20 miles away at Ground Zero.

One of the referees in our hockey ref association was a building engineer at WTC. He survived the 93 bombing. He did not survive 9/11.

Seeing the NYFD this past week-end at the rink for their tourney was uplifting. These guys are the strongest minded men I know. I would never feel as safe as I would with a fireman. I respect the NYPD. Their job is to protect people. But I admire the NYFD. Their job is to SAVE people.

[willc7786 0]

First off, as to why its remembered more, I think its more then just the aftermath and the war that has followed, but its the scope that makes it so remembered. This wasn't some fighter jets attacking out of nowhere, which could happen at any time (or at least attempted). These were terrorists who hijacked our own planes and flew them into buildings. This was an act no one ever even thought about. A jet could drop a nuke at any time, and people know this, but what was done on that day could never have even been imagined.

As for where I was, it was 3rd period in my senior year in HS. It went through the school quietly, with no one knowing what happened. By the end of 4th everyone knew what happened and we watched TV in basically every class. One of my freakin teachers tried teaching that day. I don't think anyone respected her for the rest of the year. It was scary though, with so many people having family/parents who work in the city. My best friends dad worked just a couple blocks over, which is also where I work now. It was weird being at work yesterday. God bless all those whose lives were lost, saved, and affected by 9/11

[Langenbrunner15 0]

Just wondering..whenever I hear 9.11 or anything to do with it, i get this wierd chill go down all over my body, does anyone else ge tthat?

[Chadd 916]

Just wondering..whenever I hear 9.11 or anything to do with it, i get this wierd chill go down all over my body, does anyone else ge tthat?

Actually, I get annoyed. To take all of the emotion and destruction and boil it down to a catchy little phrase just seems so wrong to me. It would be like taking the sneak attack on Pearl Harbor and calling it 12-7. To me, it just loses so much of the impact and doesn't address the fact that there are groups of people out there who want to kill as many Americans as possible simply because we don't want to live just like they do.

[willc7786 0]

I think it gets hit with the tag 9-11 due to the 11 matching the two towers. Not sure if that made any sense. In lots of graphics, they have the two towers being the number "11"

[JR Boucicaut 3802]

...and also it being the phone number we call for emergencies. The date wasn't a fluke.

[pantherfan 0]

...and also it being the phone number we call for emergencies. The date wasn't a fluke.

:o I feel so dumb I never realised that.

[DarkStar50 679]

Chadd,

"a catchy little phrase"? Your suggestions..........?

I think 9-11 sums it up pretty well for the emotion and destruction. That is the date and don't ever forget it.

[sdcopp 1]

Chadd,

"a catchy little phrase"? Your suggestions..........?

I think 9-11 sums it up pretty well for the emotion and destruction. That is the date and don't ever forget it.

How about the Destruction of the WTC Towers, seems a lot more impactful than just 9-11. I agree with Chadd that giving it the media catchphrase seems to marginalize it some, because it's easier to swallow when we have that than facing up to what actually happened and being reminded of it.

I was at a new job, second day on the job with the radio on in the basement library. The company I worked for had a couple floors of one of the towers with friends, family and colleagues of several people I worked with at that time. As soon as it was verified that these were actual terrorist attacks with the second plane hitting, they sent all of us home. I live in Colorado Springs with five military installations, and it was eeire driving home because I didn't see more than three cars the whole way home, but saw the F-16's and all scrambling. As soon as I had gotten home, both my parents were still there, as my mother worked for the same company I did and was called to not come in since her shift started later. We sat in front of the TV for a few hours until I couldn't stomach anymore of the replays and carnage

I'm not the military type of person, but for the first time it seriously crossed my mind to join up.

[willc7786 0]

^That happened to someone I went to school with. He lost 6 people in the Towers, and as soon as we graduated HS he signed up for the military. He said his goal in life was to beat Osama to death with his bare hands.

[Fury of One 6]

Hard to fathom 10 years have past. For all those that were taken from us, hopefully they're at peace.

[5 Minute Major 1]

I can't believe it's been 10 years already. Seems like yesterday. I remember it felt like I was watching a movie when I turned on the tv. I was saying to myself, "This can't really be happening." =( RIP to everyone who lost their lives on this horrid day and my condolences to all of the families that have lost a loved one due to this event. We will never forget. USA USA USA USA!!