Bad Calls

[flyerman 0]

I've got a good one from one of my Rec games tonight:

Buzzer rings for the end of the second period, and this guy from the other team skates over to near our bench and two hands one my guys over his stick, splitting his OWN twig in two (idiot). Guys from my team jump on our player to prevent him from retaliating on the guy who slashed his stick. The refs jump in to separate everyone, but the culprit just calmly skates over to the penalty box.

Penalty: 2 min. minor for slashing.

I told the ref that the buzzer had already rang, the guy was on our side of the ice, and his intent was to cause injury (or damage). He said it didn't matter. It's still 2 min for slashing.

Where I come from this is a match penalty and a game misconduct. You have to remember this is freakin Rec League, and as far as I'm concerned this has no place in a game like this.

The only consolation is that this guy snapped his $100 composite shaft, and the other guy's stick was fine. That's a little funny.

So what do you guys think, esp. the refs out there? Is this a crappy call or am I off basis on this one?

A side note, this guy is always doing bone-headed things during games, slashing, roughing, getting into it with everyone. He was suspended last year for a few games for fighting. Nice guy off the ice, but an idiot on it. The guy he slashed is also a ref, so he too was arguing the intent issue after the buzzer, but to no avail....

[mickz 107]

Stupidest call ever:

The opposing player drops his stick, starts grabbing onto mine... I let go of it to try and draw a penalty. Next thing I know I get cross-checked with my own stick. What do you know? I get sent to the box for roughing supposedly.

[lotus 2]

first one that comes to mind was a few months ago. I dumped the puck in and was headed to the bench for a change when the whistle blows and I get called for slashing. I was confused because we never even touched up the puck.

I slashed someone, but it was on my previous shift. Horribly played makeup call. Pretty easy to call a too many men in a house league, and I wouldn't have argued as much haha.

Also, he deserved the slash. Twice my size and hit me from behind, face first into the boards. No contact league at that, but I don't care, if you're going to hit me then fucking hit me legit.

[-brady2 0]

We are losing 8-1, 1.6 seconds left, i took the faceoff and there centerman on the play was a real jackass, really dirty only on the team to be a goon, and i dumped the centerman, at best interference, but this moron ref who always refs our games game me one for hitting from behind. I have gotten the shittiest calls in the world from that guy, i got suspended three games for spearing when a kid held my stick and i tried to rip it out of his hands, he gave me two ten minute misconducts in a game for saying our coach wanted an explanation on this play, and then right after i came out and hit the kid at center ice and he gave me 10 minutes for kneeing.

When our team had to pack groceries in sobey's for donations i made sure i put the soup cans on his bread and his eggs on the bottom of the cart.

[rinkrat94 1]

I've got a good one from one of my Rec games tonight:

Buzzer rings for the end of the second period, and this guy from the other team skates over to near our bench and two hands one my guys over his stick, splitting his OWN twig in two (idiot). Guys from my team jump on our player to prevent him from retaliating on the guy who slashed his stick. The refs jump in to separate everyone, but the culprit just calmly skates over to the penalty box.

Penalty: 2 min. minor for slashing.

I told the ref that the buzzer had already rang, the guy was on our side of the ice, and his intent was to cause injury (or damage). He said it didn't matter. It's still 2 min for slashing.

Where I come from this is a match penalty and a game misconduct. You have to remember this is freakin Rec League, and as far as I'm concerned this has no place in a game like this.

The only consolation is that this guy snapped his $100 composite shaft, and the other guy's stick was fine. That's a little funny.

So what do you guys think, esp. the refs out there? Is this a crappy call or am I off basis on this one?

A side note, this guy is always doing bone-headed things during games, slashing, roughing, getting into it with everyone. He was suspended last year for a few games for fighting. Nice guy off the ice, but an idiot on it. The guy he slashed is also a ref, so he too was arguing the intent issue after the buzzer, but to no avail....

Yes he should have gotten 5 and a game misconduct. Especially since it was after the whistle. Intent was clear.

[flyerman 0]

Exactly what I thought: 5 min match and a game misconduct.

Are you a ref?

[chef_ducky 0]

I was tossed for going to the penalty box on a 10 minute misconduct when there were 14 minutes left in the game.

Was Mr.Bean the ref

[moose77 0]

Exactly what I thought: 5 min match and a game misconduct.

Are you a ref?

A 5 minute MAJOR and a game misconduct. There is no such thing as a "5 minute match". You might be thinking of the time penalty that is handed out with a Match Penalty. Should someone be tossed with a Match, his team has to put someone in the box and play short for 5 minutes (stop time game) in addition to losing the offending player.

[flyerman 0]

Exactly what I thought: 5 min match and a game misconduct.

Are you a ref?

A 5 minute MAJOR and a game misconduct. There is no such thing as a "5 minute match". You might be thinking of the time penalty that is handed out with a Match Penalty. Should someone be tossed with a Match, his team has to put someone in the box and play short for 5 minutes (stop time game) in addition to losing the offending player.

Woops! That's what I meant.....thanks for the correction. Got to stay on my toes here!

[lampliter87 8]

The worst that has been called against me was during a tournament semifinal. Our defenseman made a poor change just as the puck was turned over in the neutral zone, so I step on the ice chasing down a guy on a breakaway. I don't fully catch him, but manage to lift his stick as he was about to shoot and he fans on the shot. I grab the puck and head up ice, but the whistle blows and the other team now has a penalty shot for my "hook".

[JJ Thompson94 0]

The worst that has been called against me was during a tournament semifinal. Our defenseman made a poor change just as the puck was turned over in the neutral zone, so I step on the ice chasing down a guy on a breakaway. I don't fully catch him, but manage to lift his stick as he was about to shoot and he fans on the shot. I grab the puck and head up ice, but the whistle blows and the other team now has a penalty shot for my "hook".

I got a penelty almost like that, retarded. some guy has the puck, and I lock his stick with my stick and he falls. The ref calls a penalty and when I tell him I had the stick he goes well he fell, and I say it's not my fault that guy can't skate and then bam 2 min for unsportsmanlike. What an ass.

[mmmjags 0]

I was chasing down a loose puck, the guy on the other team runs into my back and falls down. I get called for roughing. I didn't care since we didn't have any subs, I was happy to get the rest.

[Archangel#16 1]

I was in the corner, battling for a puck in an in house game. A guy on the opposing team comes after me and i knock him over. He gets pissed and takes out my legs and decides that I deserved to be beaten. so he starts to punch me, and I just sit there kind of laughing to myself because i didnt feel a thing. Anyways, when he took out my legs, one of them got caught in his abdominal region which was noticed by one of the refs. They pull him off and i get up and am told to get off the ice because i had "kicked" the player. Its one of the most ridiculous calls i have ever had against me and thought that it was dealt with badly.

[gxc999 7]

My team had some terrible calls this evening. Worst of the night was when I broke out ahead of the play. Needless to say, I got to opposing crease 2 or 3 seconds ahead. So a teammate of mine skates in, shoots and scores. No whistle, waived off by the first ref. Then the second ref, who is a goalie, gives me 2 minutes for goalie interference after I'm already skating to the faceoff!

Okay, I was completely in the crease ahead of the play. But for 1 second, by accident, and the goalie was never touched. As soon as I realized it, I backed out, as I was halfway out of the crease, the shot whizzes by me and the goalie's glove. So the close referee waives the goal off after a couple seconds, and a trailing ref somehow gives me a minor, despite no contact with the goalie, and the goalie had a shot at making the save but didn't. On another instance, I'm screening, their defenseman skates in and grabs my stick and lifts it up so that the blade was above my head. On a goal mouth scramble, defenseman trips me and elbows me in the head, but it's fine. No calls were made.

The roller league I'm in is just run poorly, we have rotating goalies and refs. It's feeling like every game is a crapshoot as much as a match of skill.

[Doctor Hook 0]

Towards the waning moments of a tied beer league game, we were on the PK and iced it.

A ref calls icing and brings it back in our zone for a faceoff, but we're like, "Dude, we're killing a penalty?"

He realized he screwed up, but still had the faceoff in our zone anyway.

We were like, "WTF?"

And of course we lose the faceoff, puck goes to their point for a seeing eye slapper that goes in and they win.

Probably the worst ref f-up I've ever witnessed while playing.

We should've argued more and lobbied to have the faceoff at center ice.

[Chadd 916]

Towards the waning moments of a tied beer league game, we were on the PK and iced it.

A ref calls icing and brings it back in our zone for a faceoff, but we're like, "Dude, we're killing a penalty?"

He realized he screwed up, but still had the faceoff in our zone anyway.

We were like, "WTF?"

And of course we lose the faceoff, puck goes to their point for a seeing eye slapper that goes in and they win.

Probably the worst ref f-up I've ever witnessed while playing.

We should've argued more and lobbied to have the faceoff at center ice.

USA Hockey changed the rule on that, faceoff is where the whistle was blown. In other words, deep in the other end.

[Doctor Hook 0]

Towards the waning moments of a tied beer league game, we were on the PK and iced it.

A ref calls icing and brings it back in our zone for a faceoff, but we're like, "Dude, we're killing a penalty?"

He realized he screwed up, but still had the faceoff in our zone anyway.

We were like, "WTF?"

And of course we lose the faceoff, puck goes to their point for a seeing eye slapper that goes in and they win.

Probably the worst ref f-up I've ever witnessed while playing.

We should've argued more and lobbied to have the faceoff at center ice.

USA Hockey changed the rule on that, faceoff is where the whistle was blown. In other words, deep in the other end.

That would've been good as well!

Is there a right way to really lobby against having the faceoff in our zone after a blown call? Even if we didn't line up for a faceoff, he probably would've dropped the puck anyway just to save face. None of us are pricks and wanted to embarass the dude, but seriously, a faceoff in our zone for that is inexcusable.

Not the hugest deal since we're 2-17-3 or something, but still, just thinking about that gets me geeked.

Edit- also, not that I expected the other team to do the right thing and lobby to have the faceoff out of our zone, but still, it'd be nice if they had a shred of integrity. And the other ref was a silent partner in the whole ordeal. To be a ref you should know when to step up for what's right, but maybe I'm asking too much.

[gymmonster 4]

Skating hard for the puck into the corner, jam my own stick into the boards and high sticked myself in the face. I fall over get up and realize I'm cut so I skate back to the bench as per league rules and I get whistled for diving....

ummmmmmm I hit myself in the face and there was no one around me to even cause me to fake a dive.....

I was so confused I didn't know what to do hahaha

[fatwabbit 93]

guy on the other team on a breakaway, i skated hard to stop him and actually dove to hit the puck. Batted the puck away, but hit him on the shin causing a spill. He then looks at me, and swings his stick and connects right on the side of my helmet...

ref comes over, gives me two min for tripping... then tells the guy he gets two min for slashing...

worst ref ever!

Same ref, another game. Someone from the point takes a shot, i was skating backward adn screening the goalie. I redirected the puck between the goalie's legs, perfect goal... and due to momentum continue into the crease. Ref disallowed the goal, saying I was interfering with the goalie... C'mon, I was in the crease a whole sec after the puck went into the net, and you say I was interfering with the goalie? WTF!

[N!! 0]

I was coming in on a breakaway one time (most exciting five minutes of my life), bearing down on the goalie's left side, and the defenseman coming back had a good angle to me. Rather than go for a basic pokecheck, he lifts my stick up (legal), then leg whipped/slew footed me. I went flying, landing square on an unpadded hip and bouncing my head pretty nicely. It took me a minute to get up, and when I did I looked at the official and very calmly asked, "Was there a penalty, or do I get a penalty shot?" and he goes "If you don't shut the hell up, you'll get a game." And no, the other guy didn't get a penalty. As for the penalty shot, there wasn't enough time left in the day to give me another breakaway.

The weird thing is that this particular official was normally pretty cool. I have no clue what his deal was that day. If you consider "hell" to be swearing, that's also the second time an official has cussed at me.

[Chadd 916]

I pole checked a guy tonight and started to go the other way, all of sudden his stick comes down over my head and catches me on the bridge of the nose. The spurting blood blinded me and I went down, making a mess of my gloves and the ice. There was no call because, "he didn't mean to do it." I'm 6-1 and the guy who got me is 5-6.

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[bbruins8 0]

Didn't realize we had one of these threads...

Two weeks ago, beer league game. Opposition comes down on the left side, takes a shot, goalie gets a piece with his glove, hits the far (right) post, goes off into the right corner. It was called a goal. WTF? Learn2Physics?

Also, same game, same ref, blows icing on us when I shot the puck down when we were short handed. Dropped puck at center ice, but still...idiot ref.

Also, same game: I chase down someone who is on a breakaway, get along side, lift his stick, he steps on my skate, falls. Tripping. Same ref.

[JJStripes 1]

I pole checked a guy tonight and started to go the other way, all of sudden his stick comes down over my head and catches me on the bridge of the nose. The spurting blood blinded me and I went down, making a mess of my gloves and the ice. There was no call because, "he didn't mean to do it." I'm 6-1 and the guy who got me is 5-6.

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Intent is irrelevant when it comes to high sticks. That's true no matter where you play. In USAH a high stick that draws blood is a major penalty. Game misconduct not required.

Didn't realize we had one of these threads...

Two weeks ago, beer league game. Opposition comes down on the left side, takes a shot, goalie gets a piece with his glove, hits the far (right) post, goes off into the right corner. It was called a goal. WTF? Learn2Physics?

You can't argue with physics.

Also, same game, same ref, blows icing on us when I shot the puck down when we were short handed. Dropped puck at center ice, but still...idiot ref.

Not only did he mess up by blowing an icing, but he put the faceoff in the wrong place. When the linesman is errand in calling an icing the faceoff takes place in the end zone where the whistle was blown. In other words the faceoff should have taken place beside your opponents goalie.

Also, same game: I chase down someone who is on a breakaway, get along side, lift his stick, he steps on my skate, falls. Tripping. Same ref.

IMO you are only justified in questioning judgment calls when the ref is out of position. Was he in position?

[fatwabbit 93]

reminds me of one more... this is going wayyyy back. coming down the left, cut into the centre between the hashmarks and let it rip. Hit the right post near the top corner and went thru the net to the left. Ref said no goal as I had missed it completely. I argued that I couldnt have missed the goal.. how can a puck going towards the right post miss and get deflected left? Ref just said no goal and faceoff... There was even a mark on the post from the shot... Idiot

[Chadd 916]

Intent is irrelevant when it comes to high sticks. That's true no matter where you play. In USAH a high stick that draws blood is a major penalty. Game misconduct not required.

Actually, that's not accurate. First part is right, intent isn't required for a penalty. Options are minor or major, however if you hand out a major because of injury, you MUST give the game as well. Blood is not an automatic major, only an "injury" is an automatic major and gets the game chaser.