Here's a good one to shake your head at.

[Grinder 2]

So we're playing with 2:00 left in a game we're winning 3 - 2. Our right wing goes low to the outside, drives in hard, and sends the pass across the crease through four bodies worth of traffic to the other winger, who's coming in hard on the left post. Somehow, the puck goes in. Stick? Foot? No one can tell. Celebrations all around, except the ref isn't signalling a goal. He skates out to talk to the linesman (who had no view of the goal), for about 15 - 30 seconds. He talks to some SPECTATORS (who are sitting at the other teams end for a reason - to cheer that team), and then rules no goal. His reason? He didn't see the goal, and can't say whether it went in off the players foot or off his stick. Since he doesn't know for sure, he's calling no goal.

To cap it off, from the faceoff the other team gets the strangest bounce off the boards, an odd man rush, and scores to tie the game.

This is the first time I've ever heard that a team had to prove that they scored a legitimate goal. It's kind of like "Guilty until proven innocent." I can't believe that this was the right call. Am I wrong?

[DCott 0]

that ref is an idiot. talking to spectators is useless because they are all biased. Though consulting the other ref is always a good idea, even if he didn't see it, because it usually helps get the call right. The only way he can call that off is if he sees a kicking motion, which he obviously didn't. Most likely it went in of someone by accident, which is a goal.

[Chadd 916]

If he saw it behind the goal line it's a goal. The only way it wouldn't be a goal is if he saw it go into the net off of a hand, or intentionally directed in by the foot of a player. Referees are not required to see how it was propelled into the net, they are only required to waive off a goal if they know it was played illegally.

Goal should be reinstated and the final recorded as 4-3.

[mrusse01 0]

How about this one:

I'm playing mens league a few weeks ago, tied 3-3 I bust in alone on a breakaway late in the third period. As per my usual deke I fake really hard on the forehand, goalie bites, and I pull it quickly to the backhand and slide it in the wide open net. Easy goal right? Nope. I actually deked the goalie so hard that he slid back into the blocker side of the net and dislodged it like an inch right before I was able to put the puck in (apparently). Ref says it's a faceoff in the zone, that's it.

Anyone have any input on this? Literally nobody on either bench knew what was happening and nobody I've talked to has ever seen or heard of it before. It was a pre-season mens league game so I didn't really care, but I had a few choice words with the ref to show a little common sense, but I am interested as to what the actual ruling is on that. I'm thinking it has to at least be a penalty to the goalie, if not just an outright goal.

[Grinder 2]

Thanks for the replies. It was one of those (rare) situations where I was so stunned by what the linesman was telling us (the ref didn't even have the cahones to tell us himself) I couldn't even find the words to say "Did that sound really dumb to you as you were saying that?"

I'll just consider that I'm just happy to be out playing, and to have a wife who doesn't mind her husband being out playing hockey until 1 am on a Monday night, never mind the score.

[Chadd 916]

How about this one:

I'm playing mens league a few weeks ago, tied 3-3 I bust in alone on a breakaway late in the third period. As per my usual deke I fake really hard on the forehand, goalie bites, and I pull it quickly to the backhand and slide it in the wide open net. Easy goal right? Nope. I actually deked the goalie so hard that he slid back into the blocker side of the net and dislodged it like an inch right before I was able to put the puck in (apparently). Ref says it's a faceoff in the zone, that's it.

Anyone have any input on this? Literally nobody on either bench knew what was happening and nobody I've talked to has ever seen or heard of it before. It was a pre-season mens league game so I didn't really care, but I had a few choice words with the ref to show a little common sense, but I am interested as to what the actual ruling is on that. I'm thinking it has to at least be a penalty to the goalie, if not just an outright goal.

As long as the ref doesn't believe that the net was knocked off intentionally, it's absolutely the correct call.

[Nick23 0]

I've got one from this weekend.

First a bit of background, in a crackdown on fighting the EIHA (england) have decided to place a match ban on any form of fighting, which in its lightest form would be a punch to the face, with or without gloves and /or helmet.

The ref and liney are on a 2 man system and there is a fight in a corner, a few guys get involved, 4 guys come from the other teams bench (auto game for leaving the bench), one in particular skates the length of the ice with no stick (left on the bench) comes as a third man in, lands 3 punches tot he head of a player facing the other way, before our goalie jumps in. The ref did not give the game for leaving the bench, claiming it wasn't seen as they were both focused on the fight, the fact that they had 9 guys on the ice wasn't clear enough, came up behind the fight and landed the punches, but was not given a 3rd man in or match for fighting, but is instead given a 2+2 for roughing.

There are 3 cases for the guy being ejected, but none are given, and to end the game in the handshake, racially abused one of our guys in an attempt to start a fight, taking his helmet, gloves and shirt off and going for a guy. This is a guy with a well known pass, and the refs inability to think says something about the competence of some refs.

[sc37 0]

Well I have a story like yours, only it's 180 the other was as the goal counted! The guy came down the wing, takes a shot and hits the outside of the net near the post and the puck just dies. He puts his hands up in the air and starts cheering...his teammates all join him. The ref is still skating up to the offensive zone while the shot took place so he nvr saw anything...just saw the guys celebrate and signaled a goal after he got to the crease thinking our goalie musta pulled the puck out already or the puck came back out after hitting the back of the net.

Consulting the other ref was no use since he was on the other end and saw squat....everyone on our team was miffed about the call since none of us ever saw it go in. They ask the other team and obviously they gonna lie about it....

[5minutesforfighting 0]

Had one instance where the ref asked the goalie if it went in, I was playing defence at the time.

Our goalie was weak, not good by any means. However, our defense was pretty strong, so we could usually hold it to at most, 4-5 goals. Which in Bantam hockey...wasn't bad. So anyway...

Winger busts up the left side, I force him to the outside, he lets a wrister go, it hits the goalies pad...trickles just past the line but the goalie pulls it out quickly. The other team sees it, yells at the ref that it went in, and the ref asked the goalie. Meanwhile I was yelling No, as I didn't see it, and I'm not going to agree the puck went in, in any defensive situation.

Our goalie said yes. Needless to say...I was pissed.

[Grave77Digger 1]

Just last night the ref ruled no goal after we scored right off the face off. Our center shot it in right from the drop. They ruled no goal because the the other ref was screening/interfered the goalie accidentily when the puck dropped.

[Rustpot 1]

Just last night the ref ruled no goal after we scored right off the face off. Our center shot it in right from the drop. They ruled no goal because the the other ref was screening/interfered the goalie accidentily when the puck dropped.

And the goalie didn't poke him in the butt or yell "hey ref, your ass is in my face"?

[mrusse01 0]

Just last night the ref ruled no goal after we scored right off the face off. Our center shot it in right from the drop. They ruled no goal because the the other ref was screening/interfered the goalie accidentily when the puck dropped.

haha, what kind of league is that? Why was the second ref standing between the puck and the goalie on a draw? What a retarded place for a ref to be.

I still think my dekeing the goalie so bad he knocks his own net off and it's no goal is unbelievable. I checked the NHL rule book and Chadd is right, that is the correct call, but I think something needs to be done there. Give the ref some leeway to make the call, especially in regular leagues were we don't have the same technology holding the net in place as in the NHL. I mean has ANYONE ever heard of that happening before? Brutal.

[chippa13 1844]

Just last night the ref ruled no goal after we scored right off the face off. Our center shot it in right from the drop. They ruled no goal because the the other ref was screening/interfered the goalie accidentily when the puck dropped.

haha, what kind of league is that? Why was the second ref standing between the puck and the goalie on a draw? What a retarded place for a ref to be.

I still think my dekeing the goalie so bad he knocks his own net off and it's no goal is unbelievable. I checked the NHL rule book and Chadd is right, that is the correct call, but I think something needs to be done there. Give the ref some leeway to make the call, especially in regular leagues were we don't have the same technology holding the net in place as in the NHL. I mean has ANYONE ever heard of that happening before? Brutal.

The ref does have leeway. If he believes that the goalie intentionally knocked the net off then he can still rule it a goal. Good luck proving a goalie intentionally kicked the net off. Some goalies are really good at doing it by "accident".

[hapamatt122 0]

that whole goalie knocking the net off pisses me like no other.. in our last game the opposing goalie kept knocking the goal off on purpose, finally after the 5th time, the ref went up to him and said that he (the ref) knows he's doing it on purpose and the next time it comes off will result in a game misconduct.. needless-to-say, the goal never came off again.

[Cheesehead 0]

Last season we were playing and my teammate scored on a breakaway. The puck clearly went into the back of the net. The goalie then lied on it. The ref cant tell, so he asks the goalie who is lying 1/2 way inside the net. Of coarse the goalie says no, so it ended in a tie.

Luckily it was an exhibition game.

[Abubaca 0]

I got a 4 minute penalty once because I tripped a guy. Both Refs saw it. Both refs gave me 2 minutes.

Good Stuff! :D

[Jim A 4]

we always had a rule in place @ NARCh exactly for that situation where if the net was knocked off and the puck went through where the goal was ..it could count...

in fact..Weischelbaumer of the old Franklin-Labeda squad tried to knock a net off intentionally and the puck went right across the middle..goal counted...

[chippa13 1844]

Well, the rule states that if a player intentionally knocks the net off and there is noone between the shooter and the net then a goal can be awarded.