Penalty in OT...?

[RadioGaGa 162]

http://tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=221737&hubname=

I'm not posting this because I'm a Habs fan...I think it is a good idea.

Guy proposes this..If you take a penalty with less than 2 minutes left in OT...you are not eligible to shoot in the SO.

Thoughts?

[Patrick67 1]

We have that rule in our league. I think it's a good idea.

[Oberon 0]

I thought that rule was already in place. If not, it should be.

[mrusse01 0]

I don't think anybody is going to disagree with this proposed rule.

Another rule I think should be if you get a major penalty within the last 2 minutes (or maybe 5 minutes) of a game then it is carried over in some regard to the next game you play, like you start off with a 2 minute minor. I know the league has been tossing that idea around for a while now.

[604bullet 0]

I think this rule should be implemented because it does make sense.

if a player is penalized in the dying seconds of the third period, he's still in the box for OT.

It only makes sense to not let gonchar participate in the shootout.

Very interestin topic for discsson

[chippa13 1844]

I don't know. One idea of the shootout is to have talent on display. Not a good idea to have someone like Crosby or Ovechkin missing the shootout because of a ticky-tack hooking call.

[Chadd 916]

I don't know. One idea of the shootout is to have talent on display. Not a good idea to have someone like Crosby or Ovechkin missing the shootout because of a ticky-tack hooking call.

I've never seen either of those guys in the box during OT so I don't think that's a big issue. I'm in favor of the change.

[chippa13 1844]

I picked a couple names out of a hat. My point was that skill guys are usually on the ice in overtime and it goes against the idea of a shootout to have them not be able to participate.

[The Stranger 0]

Penalties transfer over from regulation to OT, it only makes sense that the same applies to the shootout.

[Chadd 916]

I picked a couple names out of a hat. My point was that skill guys are usually on the ice in overtime and it goes against the idea of a shootout to have them not be able to participate.

Most penalties in OT are on defensemen, not forwards. Any penalty committed in OT could very well prevent a goal from being scored and the other team from winning. Allowing a guy to potentially prevent a goal due to an illegal act and then scoring the game winner in the shootout is unconscionable to me.

[DamnLocust 0]

There's a similar rule in one of the leagues I play in (or at least that's how the refs called it). i know because I wasn't allowed to participate in the SO because of a pretty weak call imo. I was heated at the time, but it certainly does make sense. If someone takes a penalty in the dying seconds of a game that takes away a scoring chance, the team that had the scoring chance taken away loses their OT PP advantage as well. (I didn't see the play in question) The offender losing his chance in the SO is the least the league can do to give some semblage of a competitive edge back.

[chippa13 1844]

I picked a couple names out of a hat. My point was that skill guys are usually on the ice in overtime and it goes against the idea of a shootout to have them not be able to participate.

Most penalties in OT are on defensemen, not forwards. Any penalty committed in OT could very well prevent a goal from being scored and the other team from winning. Allowing a guy to potentially prevent a goal due to an illegal act and then scoring the game winner in the shootout is unconscionable to me.

Chara has never scored a shootout winner? Gonchar? Zubov? You get the idea. B)

I don't like the idea of making the guy ineligible for the shootout. For one, what if the shootout goes for several extra rounds. That is unfairly punishing the team. Penalties end but by making the guy ineligible, this penalty wouldn't.

[Rustpot 1]

So what keeps a guy from hooking like he's going fishing in the last 10 seconds of OT? What keeps a guy from maliciously cross-checking to clear the crease on the last play?

Take those players out of the shootout, make them serve the penalty in some way.

[Krev 86]

So what keeps a guy from hooking like he's going fishing in the last 10 seconds of OT? What keeps a guy from maliciously cross-checking to clear the crease on the last play?

Take those players out of the shootout, make them serve the penalty in some way.

They're not allowed to be in the first three shooters for that team. Sometimes the shootouts over by the second shooter.

[Rustpot 1]

And sometimes, like Pens/Habs the other night, it ends on the 8th guy for each.

If the NHL wants to use the shootout for deciding regular season games, they need to regulate it more.

I'd still like to see it at 5 shooters default. But like what has been said, most of the guys taking a penalty in OT aren't the guys who will be shooting in the SO, so it's a moot point for a good number of the instances.

But for those teams that don't make it to the playoffs because they lost a scoring opportunity in the waning moments of OT and the guy who broke it up with a penalized play ends up taking the game in the 4th, 5th, 15th shootout round, that's a tough cookie to swallow.

[Langkow22 5]

How pissed would you be though if the ref made an absolute BS call and you had to miss the SO I know i would be angty

[Dougie8 0]

How pissed would you be though if the ref made an absolute BS call and you had to miss the SO I know i would be angty

The same goes for minor hockey in Canada i know for sure and pretty sure about the states. Last ten minutes if the ref makes a brutal call and you get tossed, you're going to miss the next game. It happens, not much you can do about it.

[SideshowRob43 0]

and if a goalie shoots the puck over the glass or touches it out side of the trapezoid, the backup has to come in and play... i think that'd be interesting to see too

[D aka speck 0]

Here's a thought...

A penalty results in a power play.

If a player is in the box with time left on the clock, they should be disqualified from the shootout and...

ready for this?

we go back to the premise that founded the "power play" to begin with!

Take the shot away from the team.

Basically, extend the power play.

That will end a ton of BS.

Instead of a 3 - 3 shootout, it's a 3 - 2 shootout.

Simple really.

[chippa13 1844]

Have you guys considered the potential for the final minute of OT to become an absolute dive fest?

[Rustpot 1]

Have you guys considered the potential for the final minute of OT to become an absolute dive fest?

Diving's a penalty as well.

[chippa13 1844]

Have you guys considered the potential for the final minute of OT to become an absolute dive fest?

Diving's a penalty as well.

Sure it is, but it never gets called on its own, on those rare occassions that a dive is called. How mad would you be if Lilja takes a dive that also pulls Crosby out of the shootout?

[sjsharks11 0]

So what keeps a guy from hooking like he's going fishing in the last 10 seconds of OT? What keeps a guy from maliciously cross-checking to clear the crease on the last play?

Take those players out of the shootout, make them serve the penalty in some way.

I agree I think they should use this rule

[the1gwiz 0]

Good discussion. I'd suggest that the offending player can only participate in the shootout if he is the last skater on his team to do so. This effectively keeps him out, but also avoids the problem that would arise in the highly unlikely, but still possible, event that the shootout is still even after all skaters have made an attempt. If the guy who committed the penalty doesn't get his shot, his team's #1 guy now goes up against the opponent's last skater, giving that squad the advantage.