How stupid is Chris Simon?

[Fire0nIce228 1]

Yes

Yes

Yes.

True.

[Patrick67 1]

7th time he is suspended... that stat speaks for itself....

The NHL is a f**king joke, does Simon have to kill someone before they give him a life ban???

[#96 0]

30 games with no pay is pretty heavy. I mean, in a court they'd give him a sentence based on how much injury he caused the other person, right? And Ruutu didn't really get hurt that bad. Could have, but didn't. Attempted homicide vs homicide.

I think it's fair IMHO. However, being it is his 7th, the league should really look into permanent banishment. That's also my HO.

[Theo 1]

I wanted banned for life.

As far as the Simon concussion on the Hollweg hit- Ha, yeah right. It's a null issue anyways, but Simon has show that he cannot control his emotions when the games start to heat up

[chippa13 1844]

30 games with no pay is pretty heavy. I mean, in a court they'd give him a sentence based on how much injury he caused the other person, right? And Ruutu didn't really get hurt that bad. Could have, but didn't. Attempted homicide vs homicide.

I think it's fair IMHO. However, being it is his 7th, the league should really look into permanent banishment. That's also my HO.

In my opinion, attempted homicide should have the same sentence. Why should a guy get a break for being incompetent?

[Fire0nIce228 1]

I wanna know exactly what it is, as I'm watching the Islanders feed on Center Ice, I want know exactly what it is that he's 'going through' that is 'a really hard time for him' that made him snap like that. Apparantly he's not going to Drug/Alcohol counseling, so what is it?

Everyone on the TV, announcers, players they interviewed from the Isles are making it sound like something else is going on in his personal life that makes him an idiot. He just find out is son is gay or something?

The racial background card does not fly here at all cause he's apparantly had to deal with that his whole career, and as such this far into his career should be able to handle anything that comes about because of that.

[Theo 1]

I wanna know exactly what it is, as I'm watching the Islanders feed on Center Ice, I want know exactly what it is that he's 'going through' that is 'a really hard time for him' that made him snap like that. Apparantly he's not going to Drug/Alcohol counseling, so what is it?

Everyone on the TV, announcers, players they interviewed from the Isles are making it sound like something else is going on in his personal life that makes him an idiot. He just find out is son is gay or something?

The racial background card does not fly here at all cause he's apparantly had to deal with that his whole career, and as such this far into his career should be able to handle anything that comes about because of that.

Since it is not the first time he has done something like this, it is none of that. Just teammates being teammates. Although Nolan's comment is laughable

[Thockey17 1]

In my opinion, attempted homicide should have the same sentence. Why should a guy get a break for being incompetent?

Exactly.

You dont go stomping on someones ankle without expecting it to hurt. Ruutu's injury/lack of should not matter.

[Fire0nIce228 1]

Yeah, excessive. LMAO.

[#96 0]

In my opinion, attempted homicide should have the same sentence. Why should a guy get a break for being incompetent?

Exactly.

You dont go stomping on someones ankle without expecting it to hurt. Ruutu's injury/lack of should not matter.

It's a legal thing. It's intent vs action, or guilty mind matching with guilty act. You can have one, or both, but one without the other is not complete guilt. Or at least guilt worth recieving the full sentence. At least that's how our judicial system sees it.

[oliverloran 0]

After such incidents i'm not amazed that 11 yearolds drop gloves and jump on each others sticks...

[Jason Harris 31]

In my opinion, attempted homicide should have the same sentence. Why should a guy get a break for being incompetent?

Exactly.

You dont go stomping on someones ankle without expecting it to hurt. Ruutu's injury/lack of should not matter.

It's a legal thing. It's intent vs action, or guilty mind matching with guilty act. You can have one, or both, but one without the other is not complete guilt. Or at least guilt worth recieving the full sentence. At least that's how our judicial system sees it.

The NHL is a private business, so it doesn't have to adhere to the same standards as our judicial system. If they wanted to give a longer penalty because they felt it was possible the action could have jeopardized Ruutu's career, they would have been within their rights to do so. However, I suspect the NHLPA would have tried to take them to court and use the same argument you've used.

Given the Islanders were about 40% through their season, and this was Simon's seventh suspension, I think it would have been a more powerful message for the NHL to say, "Pack your bags. Your season is over."

[chippa13 1844]

I wanna know exactly what it is, as I'm watching the Islanders feed on Center Ice, I want know exactly what it is that he's 'going through' that is 'a really hard time for him' that made him snap like that. Apparantly he's not going to Drug/Alcohol counseling, so what is it?

Everyone on the TV, announcers, players they interviewed from the Isles are making it sound like something else is going on in his personal life that makes him an idiot. He just find out is son is gay or something?

The racial background card does not fly here at all cause he's apparantly had to deal with that his whole career, and as such this far into his career should be able to handle anything that comes about because of that.

What does it matter what his personal issues are? They are his issues. If he wanted you to know then you would know.

To quote a famous movie..............

"Where's Principal Rooney?"

"He left school grounds on personal business."

"What the hell does that mean?"

"That it is personal and none of your business."

[Spreedizzle 1]

Bueller......Bueller......Bueller???

[ktang 34]

After such incidents i'm not amazed that 11 yearolds drop gloves and jump on each others sticks...

One ref was talking about how he had a kid kicking another while the victim was down in a scrum. Timing-wise, I wonder if the kicker inadvertently picked this up from all the replays of the Simon incident?

[oliverloran 0]

After such incidents i'm not amazed that 11 yearolds drop gloves and jump on each others sticks...

One ref was talking about how he had a kid kicking another while the victim was down in a scrum. Timing-wise, I wonder if the kicker inadvertently picked this up from all the replays of the Simon incident?

I think that in any professional league they should consider that they have an impact on the future of hockey, i mean a lot of kids watch NHL and it's not a good example for them that problems are to be solved like this. And some might think that if such behaviour will only cause such "small" effect on your career, than it could be worth it.

[Fire0nIce228 1]

I wanna know exactly what it is, as I'm watching the Islanders feed on Center Ice, I want know exactly what it is that he's 'going through' that is 'a really hard time for him' that made him snap like that. Apparantly he's not going to Drug/Alcohol counseling, so what is it?

Everyone on the TV, announcers, players they interviewed from the Isles are making it sound like something else is going on in his personal life that makes him an idiot. He just find out is son is gay or something?

The racial background card does not fly here at all cause he's apparantly had to deal with that his whole career, and as such this far into his career should be able to handle anything that comes about because of that.

What does it matter what his personal issues are? They are his issues. If he wanted you to know then you would know.

To quote a famous movie..............

"Where's Principal Rooney?"

"He left school grounds on personal business."

"What the hell does that mean?"

"That it is personal and none of your business."

Quote all the bullshit movies you want, I want to know why people are defending a proven scumbag and why he still even has a chance to play in the NHL.

I want to know because if he can't control his personal issues he should not be given the right to play in the league, and he's lost that privledge once again. If he's got these issues and yet they're going to continue to allow him to play then we should know what is tolerable and what is not by the league. Drugs/Alcohol are not supposed to be, Simon has a history with that, yet they say it has nothing to do with this case. All signs are pointing to yes it does at this point, partly because Campbell slipped and said it was, then retracted his statement. So, if its not drugs/alcohol, which results in some pretty lengthy penalties (Theo Fleury), yet its something that causes a man to attack fellow man on several occasions, what is it that he is still allowed to be in this league.

Personally I think we have the right to know why the league is giving him a free pass on his 'personal demons'. Essentially that is what they are giving him for this. Yeah 30 games is 30 games, but we all know he should be gone for good.

[jay 1]

Ahhh, the good 'ol NHL... they'll never get their act together. The league is run by idiots and chicken shits. I'm not remotely surprised all he got was 30. I was expecting less to be honest because they never give near enough.

[#96 0]

In my opinion, attempted homicide should have the same sentence. Why should a guy get a break for being incompetent?

Exactly.

You dont go stomping on someones ankle without expecting it to hurt. Ruutu's injury/lack of should not matter.

It's a legal thing. It's intent vs action, or guilty mind matching with guilty act. You can have one, or both, but one without the other is not complete guilt. Or at least guilt worth recieving the full sentence. At least that's how our judicial system sees it.

The NHL is a private business, so it doesn't have to adhere to the same standards as our judicial system. If they wanted to give a longer penalty because they felt it was possible the action could have jeopardized Ruutu's career, they would have been within their rights to do so. However, I suspect the NHLPA would have tried to take them to court and use the same argument you've used.

Given the Islanders were about 40% through their season, and this was Simon's seventh suspension, I think it would have been a more powerful message for the NHL to say, "Pack your bags. Your season is over."

Oh no? Tell that to the legal eagles that got their hands on the CBA Agreement, the Moore Case, McSorley, and countless others that crossed over into their hands. Any action on the ice could indeed result in legal action and is certainly prone to judicial standards.

I understand what you're saying though. The NHL may not use guilty mind/guilty act when they hand down suspensions. But if this incident was uglier, you can be rest assured it could have gone into a criminal proceeding.

[D aka speck 0]

It still can... if Ruutu decides to persue it.

[ronnychencharik 0]

[sarcasm]He must be on steroids.[/sarcasm]

[cxo 0]

It still can... if Ruutu decides to persue it.

Which he won't. What could he gain at most, he wasn't hurt. Charge him with assault? I guess he could do some damage to Simon, but not enough to make it worth all the trouble he would have to go through.

[D aka speck 0]

It still can... if Ruutu decides to persue it.

Which he won't. What could he gain at most, he wasn't hurt. Charge him with assault? I guess he could do some damage to Simon, but not enough to make it worth all the trouble he would have to go through.

I didn't say that he would or should, just that he could. (I was gonna' say can, but it seems I had a theme going :D )

[#96 0]

Has anyone seen that the President of the First Nations wants Colin Campbell to apologize for linking the incident to Simon's potential drug and alcohol abuse? Apparently, Soupy made a comment about it.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/news;_ylt=AsWm...p&type=lgns

I guess he should apologize for it since there is nothing to substantiate it at this point. What he should say is the incident was caused by Chris Simon being a psychotic sociopath.

[mack 44]

FWIW I don't think Simon being a nutball has anything to do with his being Native because there are some good and peaceful ones out there too, like Tootoo and Berube.