First ever fiberglass/composite stick? Koho, Montreal ?

[shawn o 0]

At a game over the weekend (senior league - I'm 35), some teammates and myself were talking about my new S17 stick and the oval design. Someone remembered an old stick from the early or mid 80s that had an entirely oval shaft. I remembered it as well.

I remember it from peewees or bantams and that a teammate had got one in Canada. I was living in ND at the time and none of the sporting good stores in our area ever got them.

Was it a Koho? Montreal? I think I remember it being all black with yellow lettering. I can't remember if it was a shaft or a one piece? Somehow I doubt the technology was there for a one piece back then...

Anyone still have one and have any pics?

[Stampede#11 0]

I recall on of the early Nike shaft's being rather oval. It was a dark red colour, was very rounded with slightly concaved sides and had a white strip down the concave that almost felt like tape.

First Koho composite I had was the Koho Vector shaft in around 95. TPS also had an early comp shaft that I think Pat Lafontaine and Robataille used to use (? may be talking out of my ass).

Doubt there would be a composite shaft from the Mid 80's as I though Alloy's were the first shafts around 90/91?

[DarkStar50 679]

Early to mid 80s all red Titan Turbo, oval shaped wrapped fibreglass. Koho also made the all navy OPS with the gold graphics. Name? I want to say XL something. Do you remember the Koho gloves from that era, the injection molded mitten that Gilbert Perrault wore(or "rocked" as we say now!)???

[thejackal 46]

Koho XL-1

[shawn o 0]

I found a reference to an old Koho stick called the "Tapestick". Was that the official name?

[leafs1967 2]

I had one of the oval Koho sticks when they came out in the early 80's. Was a great stick for stick handling but would always twist in your hands while shooting. Also used the Jofa Blackshot which was a complete graphite stick.

[Keith 0]

The first comp sticks that were ok performers were the filament wound models by companies like christian.

[chippa13 1844]

I believe Fontaine was the first to produce an all-composite shaft. They were bought out by Louisville.

[Fletch 219]

I believe Fontaine was the first to produce an all-composite shaft. They were bought out by Louisville.

You read my mind...I remember Robitaille using a Fontaine in the early 90's.

[Pinoroho 0]

I remember a fiberglass oval Koho that I got for Chritmas back in the 80's. It was blue with gold/white lettering. It broke after only a few games though. This stick was oval all the way up the shaft. Come to think of it, was this stick out before Easton's aluminum?

At a game over the weekend (senior league - I'm 35), some teammates and myself were talking about my new S17 stick and the oval design. Someone remembered an old stick from the early or mid 80s that had an entirely oval shaft. I remembered it as well.

I remember it from peewees or bantams and that a teammate had got one in Canada. I was living in ND at the time and none of the sporting good stores in our area ever got them.

Was it a Koho? Montreal? I think I remember it being all black with yellow lettering. I can't remember if it was a shaft or a one piece? Somehow I doubt the technology was there for a one piece back then...

Anyone still have one and have any pics?

Entirely oval shaft. It WAS a one piece! It was a very dark blue. And it was a Koho.

[skeeter14 0]

Someone feel free to correct me, but wasnt there something from Busch around before the koho vector? I know I have an ad in a magazine somewhere, but i can't remember if it was a shaft, an early attempt at a OPS, or maybe both???

[JR Boucicaut 3801]

I remember a fiberglass oval Koho that I got for Chritmas back in the 80's. It was blue with gold/white lettering. It broke after only a few games though. This stick was oval all the way up the shaft. Come to think of it, was this stick out before Easton's aluminum?

At a game over the weekend (senior league - I'm 35), some teammates and myself were talking about my new S17 stick and the oval design. Someone remembered an old stick from the early or mid 80s that had an entirely oval shaft. I remembered it as well.

I remember it from peewees or bantams and that a teammate had got one in Canada. I was living in ND at the time and none of the sporting good stores in our area ever got them.

Was it a Koho? Montreal? I think I remember it being all black with yellow lettering. I can't remember if it was a shaft or a one piece? Somehow I doubt the technology was there for a one piece back then...

Anyone still have one and have any pics?

Entirely oval shaft. It WAS a one piece! It was a very dark blue. And it was a Koho.

XL1

Someone feel free to correct me, but wasnt there something from Busch around before the koho vector? I know I have an ad in a magazine somewhere, but i can't remember if it was a shaft, an early attempt at a OPS, or maybe both???

1994 Sher-Wood/Busch Carbone 2000 ~> Itech/Busch Balance ~> Graf/Busch Goldline/Laser

[shawn o 0]

Thanks for the info. I'd love to get my hands on one of those.

[Fletch 219]

1994 Sher-Wood/Busch Carbone 2000 ~> Itech/Busch Balance ~> Graf/Busch Goldline/Laser

Ahh...that's right! Larionov used one, I remember. He was with SJ at the time, IIRC.

[JR Boucicaut 3801]

Makarov as well

[cerps 0]

I believe Fontaine was the first to produce an all-composite shaft. They were bought out by Louisville.

You read my mind...I remember Robitaille using a Fontaine in the early 90's.

I've got a Fontaine sitting in my parents' basement. It was their second model that had the convex shape. I used it for a couple of years and then I broke it about 3 inches from the bottom. I have a long plug in it now. All I know is I had to mess with blade tennons to get them to fit.

[skeeter14 0]

1994 Sher-Wood/Busch Carbone 2000 ~> Itech/Busch Balance ~> Graf/Busch Goldline/Laser

JR, was '94 sherwood/busch a OPS? I can't remember for sure.

[JR Boucicaut 3801]

1994 Sher-Wood/Busch Carbone 2000 ~> Itech/Busch Balance ~> Graf/Busch Goldline/Laser

JR, was '94 sherwood/busch a OPS? I can't remember for sure.

Yep, the names I put there were the same exact stick throughout.

[epstud74 24]

I believe Slava Fetisov used a Busch OPS

1994 Sher-Wood/Busch Carbone 2000 ~> Itech/Busch Balance ~> Graf/Busch Goldline/Laser

JR, was '94 sherwood/busch a OPS? I can't remember for sure.

Yep, the names I put there were the same exact stick throughout.

[mrusse01 0]

Thanks for the info. I'd love to get my hands on one of those.

I have one at my buddies house where we play road hockey in the summer.

I'll try and get a pic up.

[hersheybears35 0]

I still have a Titan Turbo Silver out in the garage, and the first fiberglass stick I ever had was a one-piece Jofa Blackshot, fiberglass with a foam core, early to mid 80`s...................

[sturdy22 28]

I had the JOFA blackshot in the early 80s, I remember the foam core, it might still be at my parents house. I didn't break many sticks when I was a Kid. I also had an all fiberglass KOHO that was a yellow/tan color with blue writing and it was hollow and had an end cap. this would have been between 86 and 88

[Pinoroho 0]

Any Koho XL-1 pics out there?

[hersheybears35 0]

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I tried to get some shots that shows the foam core and the graphite strips on each side.......

[jofa-blackshot 0]

HI!

I'm a Norwegian guy born in 1972.

I read about Jofa Black shot.

I'm from the city Hamar, 60 kilometres from Lillehammer Olympic '94

It was the Madshus ski factory who made Jofa Black shot, and I had the opportunity to buy from the factory after they ended the production of these sticks. I believe it was the first ''one piece'' or 100% synthetic stick ever-agree?

Someone wrote it was graphite, it was fiberglass and polyurethane foam. But they were black right trough, not only the surface.

After 88 (I think ) I got the rest of the sticks for free, after a flood. The factory is located near Norways largest lake -Mjøsa. They also produced glassfibre/carbon shafts, sold by Sher-Wood around '99-'00 but I dont think it was a succes, I have a few of them. American ski producer K2 owned Madshus, and when the shafts were developed the had K2 logo.

Are you bored ? To the point..... When did you have Black shot 'over there' ?? Was it the first version with stripes, and all edges only rounded at the backhand side (moldrelease), leaving a 'flat' forehand of the blade, or the second version designed with squares printed on the shaft -and a symmetrical rounded blade? The latter version also available in white fiberglass/black printing.

By the way I've got a KOHO Catalogue with different XL sticks. As far as I recall the KOHO XL4 and later XLS was the best models, and the shaft was made by the Finnish ski-pole manufacturer EXCEL. The blade was available in wood (ash) or ABS plastic with ash veneer and wrapped in glass-under the weneer. Same blade as the plasticblade of the woodenstick 2210 Silverfibre/Canadien6001. KOHO Blackfibre had the same blade without the veneer.

Titan Turbo and KOHO XL was available later than BlackShot as far as I recall -at least in Norway

Did any NHL players use Black-Shot?