Xi Retlah iX 0 Report post Posted March 30, 2008 Out of curiosity, has anyone looked up the curves of top scorers/great players? Im just wondering if theres any type of connection between like, Ovies curve, Lecav's, gretz.. u get the idea. btw I'm not looking for a curve to make me score more goals. :P i live n breath Drury, i just thought it'd be interesting to see if theres a pattern.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DCott 0 Report post Posted March 30, 2008 lotta toe curves Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hidious 0 Report post Posted March 30, 2008 Im just wondering if theres any type of connection between like, Ovies curve, Lecav's, gretz.. u get the idea. From what i've seen, there isn't. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fire0nIce228 1 Report post Posted March 30, 2008 I'd say no.Kovalchuk big toeCrosby next to nothing etc Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
strosedefence34 175 Report post Posted March 30, 2008 I think they are just good hockey players and thats why they score goals. I think you could give them a stick from the 1920's and they probably could put up just as many goals. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBLfan 25 Report post Posted March 30, 2008 Ovechkin - mid curve wish some toeLecavalier - Big heel curveGretzky - nearly flat bladeCrosby - nearly flatKovalchuk - small heel, curve gets big in toe.Well that covers the names already mentioned. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
heatley015 0 Report post Posted March 31, 2008 Funny how Crosby and Gretzky both have small curves, both good playmakers, but i'd say just a coincidence because Spezza is a good playmaker as well, and he uses a big toe curve. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
camhockey16 5 Report post Posted March 31, 2008 i think most of the russian superstars all use borderline illegal curves - with the exception of datsyuk and kovalev.malkinovechkinkovalchuk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-brady2 0 Report post Posted March 31, 2008 i think most of the russian superstars all use borderline illegal curves - with the exception of datsyuk and kovalev.malkinovechkinkovalchuksemin uses a hook too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegongshow13 0 Report post Posted March 31, 2008 i think most of the russian superstars all use borderline illegal curves - with the exception of datsyuk and kovalev.malkinovechkinkovalchuksemin uses a hook too.thats what she said. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-brady2 0 Report post Posted March 31, 2008 wow, that was pathetic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chippa13 1844 Report post Posted March 31, 2008 Funny how Crosby and Gretzky both have small curves, both good playmakers, but i'd say just a coincidence because Spezza is a good playmaker as well, and he uses a big toe curve.Thornton has also converted to a much flatter blade the last few years. Modano took a lot of curve out of his blade years ago to help with faceoffs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
top_shelf_24 0 Report post Posted March 31, 2008 i think most of the russian superstars all use borderline illegal curves Jagr actually czech republic Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hamstercaster 2 Report post Posted April 4, 2008 If the curves had anything to do with it, all the players in the NHL would play with the same curve pattern.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
odp 0 Report post Posted April 5, 2008 One way to look at things, although may not be very PC - there's got to be a reason why they have a limit to the depth of curves and size of equipment, etc... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Super Star 0 Report post Posted April 5, 2008 the limit on the curve is because with a very curved stick a slap shot flutters unpredictably so in the days when no rules about the curve existed players would just skate over the blue line and let it rip hoping that goalie will be unable to pick it up and it worked.+ those shots were usually high so goalies where also afraid of being hit in the head (in those days masks were not very protective) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
habookus 1 Report post Posted April 5, 2008 Good stickhandler's tend to go for mid/toe curves, and pure shooters usually choose heel curves. Although it's not the case for all players i.e. Lecavalier is a great stickhandler who uses a Lidstrom curve, and Kovalchuk and Ovechkin are great shooters using mid-toe curves, that's generally how it is. Heel curves are proven to give you a harder shot, and mid curves give you the added puck control. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBLfan 25 Report post Posted April 5, 2008 Think it has more to do with where you started playing. Toe hooks are normally a euro thing. Heel is canadian. Mid is pretty much random but probably a little more euro. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chadd 916 Report post Posted April 7, 2008 Good stickhandler's tend to go for mid/toe curves, and pure shooters usually choose heel curves. Although it's not the case for all players i.e. Lecavalier is a great stickhandler who uses a Lidstrom curve, and Kovalchuk and Ovechkin are great shooters using mid-toe curves, that's generally how it is. Heel curves are proven to give you a harder shot, and mid curves give you the added puck control. WTF?No curve gives you more power than any other. In fact, different curves requires different shoting techniques in order to get maximum velocity out of them. You even contradict yourself by saying pure shooters use heels and then point out that Ovechkin uses a mid-toe. If AO isn't a "pure shooter" then there aren't any on the NHL. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
habookus 1 Report post Posted April 8, 2008 I think WhiskeyTango got it. And I also believe that heel curves do give you a slight advantage in shot velocity, mostly slap shots. Have you ever seen Macinnis' or Souray's curves, both huge heels. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chadd 916 Report post Posted April 8, 2008 I think WhiskeyTango got it. And I also believe that heel curves do give you a slight advantage in shot velocity, mostly slap shots. Have you ever seen Macinnis' or Souray's curves, both huge heels. The vast majority of NHL players use heel curves, even the ones that can't shoot. Those guys could launch rockets with Gordie's sticks or with Jagr's, it has zip to do with the curve. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
habookus 1 Report post Posted April 8, 2008 I'm implying that in general a mid curve will give you more control than a heel hook would, and that heel curves do give you a slight shot velocity increase due to its increased sweet spot. There are certain individuals whose sole job in the NHL is to find players better curves to suite their games. Case and point, Zach Parise hired some guy who constructed him a perfect shooting blade to match his style of play. He uses a complete heel hook. Again I'm not saying that if you have a heel curve you can't stickhandle, or if you use a mid/toe you can't shoot, I'm simply saying that each curve has its own advantages/disadvantages. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
adam14 182 Report post Posted April 8, 2008 chadd is right, its not about the curve, it doesnt effect your shooting. look at guys like ovechkin, he uses a toe curve, why? because when he carries the puck he has it on his toe most of the time, and he uses that small toe curve for his wrist shots, thats where he gets his quick release. guys with heel curves are mainly the ones that carry the puck on their heel, thats what gives them the quick release, and allows them to get it up quicker. they construct their curves around the way they play, they dont adapt their playing style to the curve they use. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBLfan 25 Report post Posted April 8, 2008 ovechkin uses a heel curve with the majority of the curve in the mid-toe. Similar to the retail sakic, on steroids. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites