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Ok, so i seem to have a problem. Im a big guy (about 6'0 230) and i go through holders like crazy. ive broken at least three pairs of LS2 holders in the last two years, and i was wondering what are some options are for a sturdier holder.

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i've never used any of the old mission pitch holders, but the holders on my nme nine-1's look strong as hell, very sturdy on the ice too

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im 6' 0" and 210lbs, i broke my easton holders after one full season, whilst my current ls2's have surpassed this. i wouldnt recommend them to you.

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They seem to be the best for me, but it's a little confusing when each new variation of Tuuks is supposed to surpass their former in durability and I see almost the exact opposite.

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Working in hockey pro shops for the past 5 years, I've seen breakages from every major holder on the market EXCEPT the CCM/RBK E-Pro.

and yes, those breakages include Pitch, LS2 / LS2.1, Easton RBII, Custom+, and the Cobra 5000.

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Of course you wont see many Cobra, Easton and Mission holder breakage... Odd how when you take away the amount of people using them, the number of users breaking them goes down. Bet you dont see many Crew holders break either. :rolleyes:

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Question.....are these holders cracking from impacts, or from failing under normal use?

A lot of the impact breaks have occurred on Custom+, Prolite3's and LS2Powers.

I've seen cracks on LS2, Pitch and RBII holders where the heel-post meets the rivet surface... it's really strange in some cases.

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Question.....are these holders cracking from impacts, or from failing under normal use?

A lot of the impact breaks have occurred on Custom+, Prolite3's and LS2Powers.

I've seen cracks on LS2, Pitch and RBII holders where the heel-post meets the rivet surface... it's really strange in some cases.

they seem to be breaking from normal usage

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I have never seen a cobra holder break or a mission holder, or a Easton.

Cobras tend to get soft fairly quickly, the 5000s should be better than the 3000s though.

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Of course you wont see many Cobra, Easton and Mission holder breakage... Odd how when you take away the amount of people using them, the number of users breaking them goes down. Bet you dont see many Crew holders break either. :rolleyes:

Your logic is way off. Lets say that easton, mission and graf have 5% each of the skate market. Also let's assume that their holders were of the exact same quality of other brands that had a larger share of the market. Wouldn't they still show a similar proportional percentage of breakage. If e-holders break one of 100, so wouldn't easton's. Curious, what hockey store do you work at, and how many broken holders are you replacing down there in Florida? In the last 5 yrs for example, I have not had to replace even one Easton Razor holder. It has nothing to do with how many are using easton vs. other brands, it's all about the design of the holder. I have a lot of customers with Eastons, you would think just one of them would break a holder in the last year. Same for Mission, not even one. So is it pure luck that 10 of 100 people with Tuuk holders have one that broke and 0 of 100 of Mission owners didn't. I don't think so. I stock all holders so I have them onboard to replace them if someone needs one. Bottom line is the Eastons, Missions and Cobras hold up very good as compared to other. The LS and E-pros are good holders as well.

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Of course you wont see many Cobra, Easton and Mission holder breakage... Odd how when you take away the amount of people using them, the number of users breaking them goes down. Bet you dont see many Crew holders break either. :rolleyes:

Your logic is way off. Lets say that easton, mission and graf have 5% each of the skate market. Also let's assume that their holders were of the exact same quality of other brands that had a larger share of the market. Wouldn't they still show a similar proportional percentage of breakage. If e-holders break one of 100, so wouldn't easton's. Curious, what hockey store do you work at, and how many broken holders are you replacing down there in Florida? In the last 5 yrs for example, I have not had to replace even one Easton Razor holder. It has nothing to do with how many are using easton vs. other brands, it's all about the design of the holder. I have a lot of customers with Eastons, you would think just one of them would break a holder in the last year. Same for Mission, not even one. So is it pure luck that 10 of 100 people with Tuuk holders have one that broke and 0 of 100 of Mission owners didn't. I don't think so. I stock all holders so I have them onboard to replace them if someone needs one. Bottom line is the Eastons, Missions and Cobras hold up very good as compared to other. The LS and E-pros are good holders as well.

It's a hell of a lot easier to see broken holders when there are more to break, that is common sense. I didnt say the holders are bad but just because you havent seen them doesnt mean they dont break and that's what you seemed to be saying. Have you taken in account weight of these players? How much blocking of shots these players do? What level they're playing at? How the skates are taken care of? How often these skates are being used?

Bottom line, I promise you, that if those guys had Bauer's marketshare that you'd be seeing more broken holders... That is if they didn't swap holders, which isn't exactly uncommon for Easton and Graf skates.

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my vote goes to ICM supersteel or ICM supersteel comp.. The latter has quite poor steel quality, but both holders are super stiff and durable..

The downsides are that you cannot only change the steel, you'll have to change the entire holder.. And both are quite hard to find nowdays.

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I've had pretty well most of the skates on the market and have had a holder on break on two occassions. Both times where from blistering slapshots on the holder. One was a CCM ProLite and the other a Tuuk Custom +. In my opinion any holder model would probably have broken under these circumstances because simply due to the shear energy release of the puck when it contacted the holder. I'm presently in Grafs with the 3000 Cobra holder and in Eastons with the Razor Blade II holder and have never experienced any problems with either. I believe most holders are well designed and will hold up reasonalbly well under playing conditions. I really don't see a holder that is more clearly superior to another on the market. I think it just depends on the type or contact and rigors the holder experiences that determines the ones that break and the ones that don't.

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Anyone know of the durability of the fiberglass T-Blade holders? With the five or so connection points between blade and boot, my assumption is that they are pretty rigid. Any experiences breaking?

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I'd say pitch is overall the strongest based on my experience. Hardest steel, very good resistance to impacts, stiff.

Most people never see the pitch failures. It breaks inside around the back bolt making your +1 setting neutral or your neutral a -1. It's usually a gradual wearing down so the skater rarely notices it.

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I wouldn't consider that outright failure, however.

Overall yes, but is a failure of the pitch.

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