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coryroth24

Stick Flex Question

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I have a NBH One70 OPS at home, it's a 77 flex cut down about an 1-1/2". The whole 77 flex thing was an experiment for me to see how it felt, turns out its too "whippy" for me. So for the sake of trying to save it, could I possibly increase the flex by cutting it down some more and add a 3" or so plug? Or did I just leave my common sense at home this morning? :ph34r:

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By cutting the stick, you reduce leverage and therefore increase stiffness. By adding the plug, you are increasing leverage and therefore reducing stiffness. Unless, after adding the plug, the overall length of the stick has been reduced, you will not increase the stiffness of the stick.

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from what i read on another post. wood plugs are stiffer than the shaft (anywhere between 100-140 flex or something), so therefore replacing a portion of the shaft with a wood plug will slightly increase the stiffness.

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I wonder if you filled the shaft with something you could increase the stiffness. Maybe an expanding foam? I know that car manufacturers use it in body panels to reduce flex.

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I'm no physicist, but the majority of the flexion in a stick occurs between your lower hand and the blade. Thus, I can't imagine a plug--especiallly a 3-5" plug--increasing the stiffness of a stick in any meaningful way. And remember, if the plug lengthens the stick, it is going to reduce the stick's stiffness because it will increase the leverage on the shaft.

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from what i read on another post. wood plugs are stiffer than the shaft (anywhere between 100-140 flex or something), so therefore replacing a portion of the shaft with a wood plug will slightly increase the stiffness.

You're right. I tried this experiment on a One95 Intermediate 67 Flex and it works according to what you said. You can actually increase the stiffness to a certain extent. For me I cut the shaft about 2.5-3" and then added a 1" wood plug and found I did increase the stiffness of the stick but nothing extreme. If I were to guess what the flex is now, I'd say it's about a 74-80 flex.

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Cutting it down and adding a wood end plug would increase stiffness, but it shouldn't be a dramatic difference, plus you're hurting the resale value if you don't like it.

If you're happy with the length, one option would be to buy a wood end with a very long tenon (some shops have tenons which are 4" or so), chop off the butt end, then put the wood tenon into the shaft. Theoretically, it would reinforce the shaft and make the stick a bit stiffer. But again, it probably won't be a dramatic difference.

So I would try the second idea, and if it works, great, and if it doesn't, put a screw into the wood end, heat up the shaft, and pull it out. Then sell it and get something you really want.

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I wonder if you filled the shaft with something you could increase the stiffness. Maybe an expanding foam? I know that car manufacturers use it in body panels to reduce flex.

Try concrete.

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those ergo grips or whatever there called a supposed to make it flexier i belive, or atleast increase length without affecing flex

I believe he's looking for the opposite effect.

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I wonder if you filled the shaft with something you could increase the stiffness. Maybe an expanding foam? I know that car manufacturers use it in body panels to reduce flex.

Try concrete.

With or without gravel mixed in?

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I wonder if you filled the shaft with something you could increase the stiffness. Maybe an expanding foam? I know that car manufacturers use it in body panels to reduce flex.

Try concrete.

With or without gravel mixed in?

without if you take a lot of slap shots, with if your a snap and wrister kinda guy ;)

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It would be really hard to decrease the stiffness of a shaft. You could put in a composite end plug to lengthen it, but the difference is so minor the longer length, depending on your style of play, would have more negative than positive effect. In addition, by lengthening the stick you are also changing the flexpoint to a higher location of the shaft...which may make it weaker and more prone to breakage. Sticks are tested at their height and below...I doubt they are tested longer than the manufactured length.

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sell it, eat the loss and buy a stick that is stiffer. Nothing is going to make a big difference.

That's what I would go with. Sell it, and get a stiffer flex. Lesson learned.

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I wonder if you filled the shaft with something you could increase the stiffness. Maybe an expanding foam? I know that car manufacturers use it in body panels to reduce flex.

Try concrete.

With or without gravel mixed in?

It's not concrete without aggregate. Otherwise, it is just cement.

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those ergo grips or whatever there called a supposed to make it flexier i belive, or atleast increase length without affecing flex

I believe he's looking for the opposite effect.

Ya my bad i read the title and i read it as can you increase how much the stick flexes

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