2008-2009 IIHF World Jr. Championships

[tro 4]

Della is an ass and could have cost Canada, but the Swede goalie did let the bumping effect him and his diving was embarrassing & disgusting, he's lucky that while he was flying around like a grenade hit him, that his head didn't smack the ice.

If a Canadian goalie acted like that I would have shut the TV off, regardless of the score.

The Swede's have some great players though, tons of talent and they displayed why they will be a country with no off years like some of the other programs.

Canada seems to just jell as a team at this tournament, the 4th line guys are 1st line stars on their club team, but they come in and accept the reduced ice time and do what they are asked to do. And obviously 20k Canadians in the stands helps a little.

I am curious as to the type of attention this tourney gets in other countries, I know this doesn't hit the sports radar in the US, but in Canada it is always huge, front page of the national papers huge(helps that we win it so often),

What is the attention in Sweden/Russia/Finland etc.?

IF a Canadian goalie acted like that?????? I guess you don't watch much NHL action.

As for the attention that the tourny gets in Canada versus other places, well, what the hell else is there? Sporting options are kind of limited.

I don't care what a goalie does when he wears an NHL uni, all pro sports have there fare share of field actors, but when a player puts on his countries jersey, he should try to represent the game/team/country in a higher standard.

And I can't even recall a NHL goalie acting like that, Roloson must have been in awe, soccer on ice.

And I was asking about European countries, I doubt their sports menu is much larger than Canada's.

Chill out Chippa, you always seem so pissed, it's a hockey website dude.

[chippa13 1844]

I am seldom, if ever, pissed around these parts. That is neither here nor there.

Markstrom flopped all of what, twice. As I recall, Tokarski took an exaggerated spill or two himself.

[barrett 0]

I am seldom, if ever, pissed around these parts. That is neither here nor there.

Markstrom flopped all of what, twice. As I recall, Tokarski took an exaggerated spill or two himself.

You must have only watched the first period if anything. He was diving practically everytime there was any action near him. He even flaunted a hit from one of his own defenceman . As for Della Rovre i agree he is a pest and did do some questionable things , but in the end he was on the winning team and had a huge role in the win. His line went out every shift and made an impact, they were physical and full of energy. And to say Canada has no sports market now your just being stubborn. Just because we do not have as many other pro sport teams as your country does not mean that every one in canada lives for hockey. Its simply untrue.

[tro 4]

Pissed was the wrong word.

Tokarski did dive on a bump, which caused me to yell at the tv, which caused my wife to tell me to shut up.

But Markstrom flopped 5-6 times, the bump by Della was cheap, he saw Markstom and leaned into him, but it was no where near the explosion he made it out to be.

Enough for me on the dives, I love international hockey, US/Slovakia, Cdn/US, Cdn/Russia were as fun as any game I may see all year.

[BMcDonald19 0]

the first one when Markstrom came oout to play the puck, there was contact made.. but he acted like there was a sniper in the crowd... then the swedish dman bumps Markstrom and he waits a second.. then basicly smashes his own head off the ice. della clearly is a sauce and went straight at him but the one camera shot shows Markstrom put his hands up to give a shot of his own. the worst of them all is when Espo went into the corner cut before he actually made contact with Markstrom and he still fell... like come on. there was the one play to where the swedish forward crashed the net hard, and the canadian goalie was bumped and its clear he tried his best to stay up. thats the same play when the canadian Dman lost it and was punching the net. i dont know man i watch my fair share of nhl games and i have never seen a goalie do something like that.. regardless we won goal again, and thats all that matters

[RadioGaGa 162]

HUGE numbers for TSN/RDS. I don't think this takes into account those of us that had the webstream going.

http://tsn.ca/world_jrs/story/?id=262167&a...s=topStory_main

[Theodoras 0]

What do you all think about the facial protection rules or player preferences?

It's so odd to see wire cages playing with half shields in such a big game. Also, why do the players use those big Itech half shields, whatever they are, as opposed to the really basic half shields used in NHL and such?

[JR Boucicaut 3797]

Because those "big" shields are certified.

[Theodoras 0]

By big I mean bulky, excess stuff. Do they have to wear certified to play?

[LkptTiger 1]

Yes.

[chippa13 1844]

I am seldom, if ever, pissed around these parts. That is neither here nor there.

Markstrom flopped all of what, twice. As I recall, Tokarski took an exaggerated spill or two himself.

You must have only watched the first period if anything. He was diving practically everytime there was any action near him. He even flaunted a hit from one of his own defenceman . As for Della Rovre i agree he is a pest and did do some questionable things , but in the end he was on the winning team and had a huge role in the win. His line went out every shift and made an impact, they were physical and full of energy. And to say Canada has no sports market now your just being stubborn. Just because we do not have as many other pro sport teams as your country does not mean that every one in canada lives for hockey. Its simply untrue.

First, the "what else is there" referring to Canada sports was tongue in cheek. Obviously, there will be somewhat less and some folks in Canada don't live for hockey.

As for Della Rovere, to say that he had a huge role in the Canada gold is folly. He barely left the bench in the third period of both the Russia and Sweden games and I don't think he played that much more of the third in the USA game. The kid was proving more a liability than an asset with his bad penalties, most of them in the offensive zone.

[mrusse01 0]

I am seldom, if ever, pissed around these parts. That is neither here nor there.

Markstrom flopped all of what, twice. As I recall, Tokarski took an exaggerated spill or two himself.

You must have only watched the first period if anything. He was diving practically everytime there was any action near him. He even flaunted a hit from one of his own defenceman . As for Della Rovre i agree he is a pest and did do some questionable things , but in the end he was on the winning team and had a huge role in the win. His line went out every shift and made an impact, they were physical and full of energy. And to say Canada has no sports market now your just being stubborn. Just because we do not have as many other pro sport teams as your country does not mean that every one in canada lives for hockey. Its simply untrue.

First, the "what else is there" referring to Canada sports was tongue in cheek. Obviously, there will be somewhat less and some folks in Canada don't live for hockey.

As for Della Rovere, to say that he had a huge role in the Canada gold is folly. He barely left the bench in the third period of both the Russia and Sweden games and I don't think he played that much more of the third in the USA game. The kid was proving more a liability than an asset with his bad penalties, most of them in the offensive zone.

I agree. If he wasn't on the team we probably would have won the gold medal game by at least 6 or 7 goals instead of having to settle for 5-1.

[QandA 0]

Because those "big" shields are certified.

Yeah, but I'm pretty sure that's a country based rule that's enforced. Filatov's visor wasn't certified, amongst others.

[sweetblazer 0]

I am seldom, if ever, pissed around these parts. That is neither here nor there.

Markstrom flopped all of what, twice. As I recall, Tokarski took an exaggerated spill or two himself.

You must have only watched the first period if anything. He was diving practically everytime there was any action near him. He even flaunted a hit from one of his own defenceman . As for Della Rovre i agree he is a pest and did do some questionable things , but in the end he was on the winning team and had a huge role in the win. His line went out every shift and made an impact, they were physical and full of energy. And to say Canada has no sports market now your just being stubborn. Just because we do not have as many other pro sport teams as your country does not mean that every one in canada lives for hockey. Its simply untrue.

First, the "what else is there" referring to Canada sports was tongue in cheek. Obviously, there will be somewhat less and some folks in Canada don't live for hockey.

As for Della Rovere, to say that he had a huge role in the Canada gold is folly. He barely left the bench in the third period of both the Russia and Sweden games and I don't think he played that much more of the third in the USA game. The kid was proving more a liability than an asset with his bad penalties, most of them in the offensive zone.

I agree. If he wasn't on the team we probably would have won the gold medal game by at least 6 or 7 goals instead of having to settle for 5-1.

That's a joke right? If not, you should never be a hockey analyst. To argue he wasn't a big factor is relevant. To say he cost AT LEAST 2-3 more goals is stupid.

[chippa13 1844]

I believe that he was joking.

[habsfan87 0]

After seeing Tavares in the tournament and word today he's been traded to London...I'm gonna have to get me some tickets to a Knights game soon

[BMcDonald19 0]

After seeing Tavares in the tournament and word today he's been traded to London...I'm gonna have to get me some tickets to a Knights game soon

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=402887

[mrusse01 0]

That's a joke right? If not, you should never be a hockey analyst. To argue he wasn't a big factor is relevant. To say he cost AT LEAST 2-3 more goals is stupid.

I was joking/pointing out how it's funny we nitpick a team that just beat the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th best teams in he world, in a row, for their 5th straight gold medal. The dominance of the Canadian World Juniors is pretty remarkable.

[jjvall 0]

Probaly bit of a daft question but just wondered why so many of these players where wearing neck guards yet had half visors on! i know here in scotland when your old enough to put half visor on, no one keeps a neck guard as they don't see the need of one!!

[denisjr 1]

Killing two birds with one stone for some equipment related questions...

This is from the IIHF rule book...

224 - PLAYER’S FACE MASK AND VISOR

a) It is recommended that all players wear a full face mask or a visor.

B) Players born after December 31,1974 shall wear, as a minimum, a visor.

c)The visor shall extend down to cover the eyes and the lower edge of the nose in

frontal and lateral projections.

d) All women players shall wear full face masks.

e) Players and goalkeepers in the category under 18 years and younger shall wear

a full face mask.

f) Players shall not be permitted to wear a coloured or tinted visor or tinted

full face mask.

226 - NECK AND THROAT PROTECTOR

a) It is recommended that all players wear a neck and throat protector.

B) Players and goalkeepers in the category under 18 years and younger shall wear

a neck and throat protector.

Furthermore Hockey Canada has it's own sets of rule that they inforce at all levels of competitive play...

Rule 3.6 Protective Equipment

(a) All protective equipment except gloves, head gear or goal-tenders’ leg pads, must be worn entirely under the uniform. Leather elbow patches on the outside of the sweater and palm-less gloves are prohibited. After one warning by the Referee, a Minor penalty shall be imposed on the offending player for the violation of this rule.

(B) While on the ice including pre-game warmups, all players, including goal-tenders, shall wear a CSA approved hockey helmet, to which a CSA approved facial protector must be securely attached and not altered in any way. Any alteration to a CSA approved helmet or facial protector automatically destroys the certification. The chin straps of the helmet shall be securely fastened under the chin. The straps of the facial protector, when designed to allow such straps, shall also be securely fastened to the hockey helmet. For violations during pre-game warmups, the Referee shall report the infraction on the official game report to the President. It is mandatory that players purchasing new facial protectors follow these guidelines:

– Type 4 visor for players in Senior (which includes Adult Recreational Hockey) and Junior Hockey.This is distinguishable by a yellow sticker bearing the CSA certification mark.

(f) The wearing of a BNQ approved throat protector is compulsory for players registered in Minor and Female Hockey.

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Hopefully that answers the question about visors and throat protectors...sorry for the long winded answer

[caldakid 0]

why are women required to wear full face cages? always wondered that

[JohnnyCanuck 0]

to the above poster that posted the rules...

If IIHF rules state under 18 players have to wear a cage (Ie Evander Kane and Ryan Ellis) why was Tavares allowed to sport the half visor!? He is not drafted yet, he is not 18 yet...

[chippa13 1844]

Check you math, son, he turned 18 in September.

[JohnnyCanuck 0]

fair enough. thanks,

Initially I thought it may have to do with his already participating in the tourney and getting some sort of an exemption.