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certainly not a classy move, but i have another question:

how many times have you been gently hit with a stick or glove or anything, really, after a whistle? i'm not talking about in a scrum around he net... just by another player skating back to the bench, accidental or not. just like Avery did. happens to me a lot.

NOW... of all those times, how many times do you flip out and bullrush the player who did it?

i'm not saying Avery wasn't out of line, i'm saying Thomas overreacted.

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He said he reacted the way he did because it was Avery.

Avery is doing what he gets paid to do, just like everyone else in entertainment and even you at your 9 to 5 (that you smile through even though you hate it because you have a job and get paid to smile (other than JR who has my dream job, but would tell you he hates it too)).

There is nobody on this board that if asked/told to put on an act (like being an asshole on the ice, TV, movie, music video (insert Eminem here)) for even $500K a year; much less $3 million you wouldn't do it.

He's getting paid to do what we could only dream about...don't hate the player, hate the game!

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There is nobody on this board that if asked/told to put on an act (like being an asshole on the ice, TV, movie, music video (insert Eminem here)) for even $500K a year; much less $3 million you wouldn't do it.

He's getting paid to do what we could only dream about...don't hate the player, hate the game!

I wouldn't do it, cheap shots like that go against my beliefs. I agree that most of the blame goes to the guys that employ players like him. These are the same GMs that recently voted against implementing a rule against head shots.

certainly not a classy move, but i have another question:

how many times have you been gently hit with a stick or glove or anything, really, after a whistle? i'm not talking about in a scrum around he net... just by another player skating back to the bench, accidental or not. just like Avery did. happens to me a lot.

NOW... of all those times, how many times do you flip out and bullrush the player who did it?

i'm not saying Avery wasn't out of line, i'm saying Thomas overreacted.

I've been tapped in the back of the head with a stick after the whistle once, and I did go after the guy. It was the third cheap shot he had given me in the game and I was sick of it. In the four or five games I've played against him since then he hasn't done anything stupid to any of the guys on my team.

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No matter how much talent the guy has, garbage like that makes him bush league.

If I were a Rangers fan, I wouldn't be happy about that win. If I were part of the Rangers' org, I would be pissed that he represents the team. Should of let him rot in the lower levels for the rest of his career.

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There is nobody on this board that if asked/told to put on an act (like being an asshole on the ice, TV, movie, music video (insert Eminem here)) for even $500K a year; much less $3 million you wouldn't do it.

He's getting paid to do what we could only dream about...don't hate the player, hate the game!

I wouldn't do it, cheap shots like that go against my beliefs. I agree that most of the blame goes to the guys that employ players like him. These are the same GMs that recently voted against implementing a rule against head shots.

It's all in your definition of "cheap shot."

A.) Tap to the back of a persons head (with a helmet on) - agitating, not malicious, cheap tap

B.) Swinging a stick at a persons head - dangerous, malicious, cheap shot

Pay me I'll play my ass off and do A whenever you ask (or I feel like it). It would take a hell of alot of money and anger for me to do B based on my beliefs as well.

It's hockey and Mr. Thomas had plenty of padding on he just let his emotions get the best of him.

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He said he reacted the way he did because it was Avery.

Avery is doing what he gets paid to do, just like everyone else in entertainment and even you at your 9 to 5 (that you smile through even though you hate it because you have a job and get paid to smile (other than JR who has my dream job, but would tell you he hates it too)).

There is nobody on this board that if asked/told to put on an act (like being an asshole on the ice, TV, movie, music video (insert Eminem here)) for even $500K a year; much less $3 million you wouldn't do it.

He's getting paid to do what we could only dream about...don't hate the player, hate the game!

Newsflash: There are some 700 other NHLers who consider Avery's actions bush league and wouldn't think of doing stuff like he did yesterday. Seven hundred other guys getting paid to be in the league who wouldn't do that because they, perish the thought in your mind, respect the game. There are two classes of people defending him right now, blind devotion Rangers fans and the retards we've been discussing in the beer league thread.

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If I were a Rangers fan, I wouldn't be happy about that win. If I were part of the Rangers' org, I would be pissed that he represents the team. Should of let him rot in the lower levels for the rest of his career.

they lost, the Rags Org. has other things to be pissed about; not a "tap" to some guys head during a hockey game, he's not going anywhere (much less the lower levels...lmao), so get used to seeing him

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There is nobody on this board that if asked/told to put on an act (like being an asshole on the ice, TV, movie, music video (insert Eminem here)) for even $500K a year; much less $3 million you wouldn't do it.

He's getting paid to do what we could only dream about...don't hate the player, hate the game!

I wouldn't do it, cheap shots like that go against my beliefs. I agree that most of the blame goes to the guys that employ players like him. These are the same GMs that recently voted against implementing a rule against head shots.

It's all in your definition of "cheap shot."

A.) Tap to the back of a persons head (with a helmet on) - agitating, not malicious, cheap tap

B.) Swinging a stick at a persons head - dangerous, malicious, cheap shot

Pay me I'll play my ass off and do A whenever you ask (or I feel like it). It would take a hell of alot of money and anger for me to do B based on my beliefs as well.

It's hockey and Mr. Thomas had plenty of padding on he just let his emotions get the best of him.

Some people have class, some don't.

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He said he reacted the way he did because it was Avery.

Avery is doing what he gets paid to do, just like everyone else in entertainment and even you at your 9 to 5 (that you smile through even though you hate it because you have a job and get paid to smile (other than JR who has my dream job, but would tell you he hates it too)).

There is nobody on this board that if asked/told to put on an act (like being an asshole on the ice, TV, movie, music video (insert Eminem here)) for even $500K a year; much less $3 million you wouldn't do it.

He's getting paid to do what we could only dream about...don't hate the player, hate the game!

Newsflash: There are some 700 other NHLers who consider Avery's actions bush league and wouldn't think of doing stuff like he did yesterday. Seven hundred other guys getting paid to be in the league who wouldn't do that because they, perish the thought in your mind, respect the game. There are two classes of people defending him right now, blind devotion Rangers fans and the retards we've been discussing in the beer league thread.

I can say with 99.99% certainty that at least a few (read many) wouldn't care except it's Avery and every thing he does get's put under a microscope.

Did I stumble across icedancing.net or are we talking about hockey?

I enjoy watching the Rangers and I'm a hockey (note: not just the Rangers but the game itself) fan, and have utmost respect for the "game". I didn't agree with the decision to bring him back, but he's here.

Just to make it perfectly clear I'll repeat, "if he had done it with intent to injure I would be up in arms with you," but come on it was a tap to the back of his head and he had a helmet on.

As for the beer league thread:

Don't check the beer league thread all that often, but I play in one and if you're refering to the "cheap f'ing players" thread; I just starting "playing" hockey a year ago at 32 years old (fat and out of shape). I won't make the NHL, AHL, or even the B league at Iceland -- ever. I play for fun and don't take it too serious...I do however know "those" players you speak of and I'm not one of them I can assure you (I stink but I enjoy the game), nor do I have blind devotion to the Rangers so what class does that put me in?

Some people have class, some don't.

hmmmm...nah

now that's class not some backhanded classless post ^^^

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Just heard about this, and it is totally a cheap shot. He knew EXACTLY what he was doing. And that's why I can't support the Rangers for bringing this assclown back.

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I'm done...

I'm here for the friendships and gear not to play high and mighty on what or who is or isn't good for the game or what is or is not a class act (only one judge of that).

I play to have fun! I stink and I don't care, I love to be on the ice and enjoy the game.

All I can say is it is typical of him and the style of play he can sleep at night playing, and if no one gets hurt in the process so be it.

i can't hear anything over the sound of your avatar

that slipped by, but was funny!

now I'm done with this thread

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Avery's tap on Thomas's head was a bullshit move. 5 minutes to go, down a goal, playoff points desparately needed, and he pulls this crap out of his ass. He is still an idiot. Hey, this is one thing that chippa and Don Cherry agree on!

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I think its funny how Thomas overreacted and how you people care so much.. Looks like Avery is earning his paycheck. We're talking about a tap to the back of the helmet... He's never pulled a Chris Simon, so get your panties out of a bundle. I thought men played this sport, not women.

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Say Chara does the same thing to Lundqvist. Then what does everyone say?

Speaking of men in hockey, when will Avery "man up"?

We don't care so much. We have nothing else to talk about.

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A stick making contact with a helmet after a whistle, especially when a player is in a prone position, should be a fine. I don't care whether it's a "tap" or not. All I care is that it was intentional and that it was after a whistle.

One thing that I've never understood is why home teams don't broadcast Avery's turtle on their jumbotrons at every play stoppage when the Rangers visit. In a well known altercation, he literally dropped to his knees and covered his head to avoid a fight with Darcy Hordichuk.

For a guy like Avery who is almost all about image, mockery and humiliation like that would either make him go abolutely berserk or go into a shell. Either way, his game would be neutralized and he'd eventually be laughed out of the league. That seems like a fitting fate for him.

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For a guy like Avery who is almost all about image, mockery and humiliation like that would either make him go abolutely berserk or go into a shell. Either way, his game would be neutralized and he'd eventually be laughed out of the league. That seems like a fitting fate for him.

In case you have been blatantly unaware... Sean Avery has NO shame. Him getting laughed out of the league is fairly unlikely as he usually gets the last laugh whether it be for better or for worst. (usually the latter) I'm not saying I condone all of his antics but what I do condone is the reason why he does it all. He does it for his team. In some sick twisted Sean Avery way, he commits his mutt-like acts for his team. Take it or leave it thats Sean Avery and I doubt he's going anywhere anytime soon.

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He does it for his team. In some sick twisted Sean Avery way, he commits his mutt-like acts for his team.

Don't be naiive. He's an attention whore.

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Of course he knew what he was doing, he was doing it to get under their skin. Whether we agree with it or not, he' accomplished his goal: Thomas over reacted, and we're all still talking about it. As long as he's bringing in attention I'm sure the team is happy with the media exposure (within reason)

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He bumped Seidenberg on the redline during warmups vs Carolina on thursday. Seidenberg took it well, just laughed and shook his head.

also in that game, he grabbed Cam WArd by the head in the crease. got a GTI call, but seriously, he's dumber than fuck

Avery could be the best instigator in the game, because he can back his game up... but instead he chooses to be a fruitcake.

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In case you have been blatantly unaware... Sean Avery has NO shame. Him getting laughed out of the league is fairly unlikely as he usually gets the last laugh whether it be for better or for worst. (usually the latter) I'm not saying I condone all of his antics but what I do condone is the reason why he does it all. He does it for his team. In some sick twisted Sean Avery way, he commits his mutt-like acts for his team. Take it or leave it thats Sean Avery and I doubt he's going anywhere anytime soon.

i'm not sure i agree that he does it for the team. i'm sure to some extent it's for he team, but it seems to be good for the team. i'm not convinced that it's bad for the sport. so if i'm sather (thank god i'm not), i say keep him. some of you may remember me saying the exact opposite before his return, but how is this different from what holik did the night before? he made non-dangerous contact with a goalie after the whistle and away from the play, and with the sole intention of starting a fire. all hell broke loose, and when the smoke cleared, holik had gotten his team a power play. there's no question that he deserved a penalty, but so long as other teams come back at him at a greater magnitude than the initial "poke", all the bruins are doing is giving avery's style of instigation positive reinforcement.

if other teams can be more disciplined, and not retaliate to him, avery's "upstairs" appeal would quiclkly fade, because he would simply be putting his team on the penalty kill all the time. i don't, however, see that happening.

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Im curious as to how many people commenting on this actually watched the whole game, and not just the highlight? Cause if you didn't see the full game, please stop posting.

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Im curious as to how many people commenting on this actually watched the whole game, and not just the highlight? Cause if you didn't see the full game, please stop posting.

That act stands alone, it does not require 2.5 hours of "context"

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If you watched the game, you would see it had 0 passion. ZERO. The Rangers were playing like it was some throwaway game in November. After 2 and most of the 3rd periods worth of nothing, something had to be done. An enforcer would start a fight, a checker would throw a big hit, an agitator would think outside the box. I think that's credit to Avery's role as one of the best agitators. All by himself, he took Kovalchuck out of their playoff matchup 2 years ago. He tried to get under Thomas' skin and get him off his game. I really don't see why everyone is so upset about this. He got a penalty for it. 2 mins in the box for a tap of the stick. fair enough.

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He got a penalty for it. 2 mins in the box for a tap of the stick. fair enough.

And most importantly, he lost the game. We'll see if he can keep agitating the Ranger's right out of the playoffs.

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