Cheap F'ing players in beer/rec leagues....

[Fletch 219]

So we had our playoffs tonight - first game went smooth and we won 6-3. It was against the team with the player who cheapshotted(sp) me a couple weeks ago. He tripped me up a few minutes in and on the way to the box, he said "sorry, man." I told him "no worries" and gave him a tap on the shins. That was that, I was glad to see that from him.

So we went on to the championship game right away (no break at all, WTF) and as soon as we know it, we're up 5-0 at the end of the first. The 2nd got much chippier, with some minor scraps breaking out, then in the 3rd we were up 6-2 and one of their guys decided to disregard the puck and put his shoulder into my chest as I was coming out of the corner with the puck in our own zone. I got the wind knocked out of me a bit but kept going, and one of my teammates roughed him up a little.

We win the game, and during the shake, one of their guys (who was a kid) says to one of my buddies "I f*cked your Mom last night." My buddy doesn't take too kindly to this and tells him he needs to shut his mouth or he's gonna get beat. A crowd forms, and the refs are separating everyone while the same kid and a couple other kids start chirping back. We skate off, and some of the parents of the kids start walking after us, talking shit and again, the refs have to get involved as we make our way to our locker room.

We got dressed, went out to the parking lot to have some beers and our Captain brings out our "prize" from the rink for our efforts - T-shirts with the rink name on it (no mention of "champions"....lol).

Good times..... (or not).

[NuggyBuggy 0]

We win the game, and during the shake, one of their guys (who was a kid) says to one of my buddies "I f*cked your Mom last night." My buddy doesn't take too kindly to this and tells him he needs to shut his mouth or he's gonna get beat.

This is the kind of stupid crap - on both sides - that I am sick of. A kid makes a stupid - but essentially harmless - remark because his team got creamed. Then some adult gets all bent out of shape because of it. Unless the kid actually did screw the guy's mom - what's to be upset about, and what's worth maybe getting into a fight about ? I'm tired of the dick swinging and posturing.

After a hard-fought 7-game NHL playoff series, the handshake line can be a wonderful display of sportsmanship. After a meaningless beer league game with idiots who sometimes have way too much to prove, the handshake just presents one more potential source of conflict. Sometimes the handshake line can be a way to say "let's leave it on the ice" as someone else suggested, but all that should go without saying anyways. And if doesn't already go without saying, then it's just one more opportunity for a scrap, stupid trash talking, or a sucker punch. And even if nothing ever comes out of it, I'd still rather have back my one or two minutes in a line multiplied by 20-30 games in a season.

[Law Goalie 147]

Their *parents* were at the game?

I've seen a fair bit of this in the university, but at the senior level, unless you're playing for the Allen Cup or something, that's ludicrous.

[Fletch 219]

We win the game, and during the shake, one of their guys (who was a kid) says to one of my buddies "I f*cked your Mom last night." My buddy doesn't take too kindly to this and tells him he needs to shut his mouth or he's gonna get beat.

This is the kind of stupid crap - on both sides - that I am sick of. A kid makes a stupid - but essentially harmless - remark because his team got creamed. Then some adult gets all bent out of shape because of it. Unless the kid actually did screw the guy's mom - what's to be upset about, and what's worth maybe getting into a fight about ? I'm tired of the dick swinging and posturing.

Yeah, but to he honest the kid in particular was shooting his mouth off all game....that's why my teammate said what he said to him. He was sick of it.

Their *parents* were at the game?

I've seen a fair bit of this in the university, but at the senior level, unless you're playing for the Allen Cup or something, that's ludicrous.

Yep...they actually had the whole bleachers on their side full of parents.

[saba 0]

Listen Poon(Camanche Indian) somedays you gotta let shit slide. This season a team on my league decided to use my face as a battering ram and my knees as target practice. I lost my shit and proceeded to do my best Brashear. What pissed me off just as much is that nobody on my team took my back and the refs let it transpire cause and I quote"I am a big boy and can take care of myself." When I retorted that is exactly what I did and your throwing me out of this game is contradictory I got the Art Shell. I was screw for days/weeks. After my 1 game suspension and being read the riot act by the wife I got a hold of myself

Although a bridge was burned with my teamates I did some re-evaluating of my experience and how I was going to play out the season. What I concluded was that some guys don't see things my way will never bother to get into my decision making, and maybe just did not see what transpired that set me off. I dunno. To add insult to my foundation of beef was that while I was out the team got real roughed up, and until one of the weaker guys on the team got f'ed then the complaints and letters to the league talk got started.

Decided that from the games going forward I was not losing my shit nor was I sticking my neck out to be anyones protector. I quietly went about my business being Charlie Hustle and trying to bring my game to the Bad News Bears. The hits, checking, punching, slashes did not stop at any time, but I had to let water run of the camels back. Why? Cause frankly its C league hockey and most of the guys cannot stand up let alone play a good game of hockey. If your in front of the net being Holmstrom instead of a good stick position or a step in front most guys are just going to cross check you or smack you in the visor with their stick. Its like my buddy said most of these guys found a stick under the christmas tree and now consider themselves the next Vechkin

My advice get better and get into a higher league, seems to be less bullshit up there, buy the best protective shit you can afford, finally grow some thicker skin and just know you dominated that mofo on the ice and leave it at that

Lots of cliche's were hurt in the making of this response

[tro 4]

Haha, when you said kids with parents, I pictured the Kramer vs kids in Karate.

We have a young team who talk shit in the handshake too, but we usually just laugh, especially if we won.

I still think the handskake has a part of the men's league, I get roughed up all game long, slashed, body checked, hand in the face, elbowed, and I have still never missed a handshake. Even if a guy is giving me the biz all game long, I will still shake his hand and say good game. I have been playing for 24yrs, I get my role to score and their role to attack me & take me off my game, I don't take it personally.

When a guy is taking liberties with your health, cross checks to the back, slashes to the head , knees. I will skip his hand in the line, but I still think you shake the other guys.

As for the thing with young vs old. I find old guys love the slash and hook, we play a team of guys 35-45 and they will hack you all game long, sticks and legs. Just the way hockey used to be played, us young guys watch NHL and think we shouldn't be touched anymore. But I find that the younger set, is the one's who do the more serious shit, crosschecks, elbows, slew foot.

My two cents.

[Vishi05 0]

So we had our playoffs tonight - first game went smooth and we won 6-3. It was against the team with the player who cheapshotted(sp) me a couple weeks ago. He tripped me up a few minutes in and on the way to the box, he said "sorry, man." I told him "no worries" and gave him a tap on the shins. That was that, I was glad to see that from him.

So we went on to the championship game right away (no break at all, WTF) and as soon as we know it, we're up 5-0 at the end of the first. The 2nd got much chippier, with some minor scraps breaking out, then in the 3rd we were up 6-2 and one of their guys decided to disregard the puck and put his shoulder into my chest as I was coming out of the corner with the puck in our own zone. I got the wind knocked out of me a bit but kept going, and one of my teammates roughed him up a little.

We win the game, and during the shake, one of their guys (who was a kid) says to one of my buddies "I f*cked your Mom last night." My buddy doesn't take too kindly to this and tells him he needs to shut his mouth or he's gonna get beat. A crowd forms, and the refs are separating everyone while the same kid and a couple other kids start chirping back. We skate off, and some of the parents of the kids start walking after us, talking shit and again, the refs have to get involved as we make our way to our locker room.

We got dressed, went out to the parking lot to have some beers and our Captain brings out our "prize" from the rink for our efforts - T-shirts with the rink name on it (no mention of "champions"....lol).

Good times..... (or not).

I don't understand how you find so much of this crap... none of this stuff seems to happen to me.

[chippa13 1844]

We win the game, and during the shake, one of their guys (who was a kid) says to one of my buddies "I f*cked your Mom last night." My buddy doesn't take too kindly to this and tells him he needs to shut his mouth or he's gonna get beat.

This is the kind of stupid crap - on both sides - that I am sick of. A kid makes a stupid - but essentially harmless - remark because his team got creamed. Then some adult gets all bent out of shape because of it. Unless the kid actually did screw the guy's mom - what's to be upset about, and what's worth maybe getting into a fight about ? I'm tired of the dick swinging and posturing.

After a hard-fought 7-game NHL playoff series, the handshake line can be a wonderful display of sportsmanship. After a meaningless beer league game with idiots who sometimes have way too much to prove, the handshake just presents one more potential source of conflict. Sometimes the handshake line can be a way to say "let's leave it on the ice" as someone else suggested, but all that should go without saying anyways. And if doesn't already go without saying, then it's just one more opportunity for a scrap, stupid trash talking, or a sucker punch. And even if nothing ever comes out of it, I'd still rather have back my one or two minutes in a line multiplied by 20-30 games in a season.

The line is about respect, sportsmanship, and the grown up notion that everyone has to face bosses and/or customers the next day. The line says, "Its beer league and I've got much more important shit to deal with tomorrow." Fletch's championship story is pretty much the standard when a team of young kids gets beat by an older team, especially one that brought their "fans".

[Fletch 219]

Listen Poon(Camanche Indian) somedays you gotta let shit slide. This season a team on my league decided to use my face as a battering ram and my knees as target practice. I lost my shit and proceeded to do my best Brashear. What pissed me off just as much is that nobody on my team took my back and the refs let it transpire cause and I quote"I am a big boy and can take care of myself." When I retorted that is exactly what I did and your throwing me out of this game is contradictory I got the Art Shell. I was screw for days/weeks. After my 1 game suspension and being read the riot act by the wife I got a hold of myself

Although a bridge was burned with my teamates I did some re-evaluating of my experience and how I was going to play out the season. What I concluded was that some guys don't see things my way will never bother to get into my decision making, and maybe just did not see what transpired that set me off. I dunno. To add insult to my foundation of beef was that while I was out the team got real roughed up, and until one of the weaker guys on the team got f'ed then the complaints and letters to the league talk got started.

Decided that from the games going forward I was not losing my shit nor was I sticking my neck out to be anyones protector. I quietly went about my business being Charlie Hustle and trying to bring my game to the Bad News Bears. The hits, checking, punching, slashes did not stop at any time, but I had to let water run of the camels back. Why? Cause frankly its C league hockey and most of the guys cannot stand up let alone play a good game of hockey. If your in front of the net being Holmstrom instead of a good stick position or a step in front most guys are just going to cross check you or smack you in the visor with their stick. Its like my buddy said most of these guys found a stick under the christmas tree and now consider themselves the next Vechkin

My advice get better and get into a higher league, seems to be less bullshit up there, buy the best protective shit you can afford, finally grow some thicker skin and just know you dominated that mofo on the ice and leave it at that

Lots of cliche's were hurt in the making of this response

Is that directed at me? We play in the silver league (2nd highest) and a couple guys in the league play in the PIHA...it's a really strong league as far as talent goes. The only reason we don't play gold is because teams like Mission, Labeda et al play in that league and we probably wouldn't win a game because it's filled with the best SoCal roller has to offer.

[porky45 1]

scratch..what i wrote.

[Fletch 219]

I don't understand how you find so much of this crap... none of this stuff seems to happen to me.

I'm tellin' ya, man....our Monday night league is NOTHING compared to the Thursday night league as far as chippiness goes. Not by a longshot (and that's a good thing). It's pretty brutal.

do you play at iceoplex?

Nah, this is roller at 949 in Irvine.

[porky45 1]

gotcha. i realized that about 30 seconds ago...it's back to back and then i saw you post about mission and labeda...what team do you play for?

[Vishi05 0]

I don't understand how you find so much of this crap... none of this stuff seems to happen to me.

I'm tellin' ya, man....our Monday night league is NOTHING compared to the Thursday night league as far as chippiness goes. Not by a longshot (and that's a good thing). It's pretty brutal.

do you play at iceoplex?

Nah, this is roller at 949 in Irvine.

Maybe it's because I'm the biggest asshole on my teams normally and I've toned it down but even in my other leagues I really don't see most of this stuff. Sunday advanced at Corona has a PIHA player or two in it also and besides an occasional slash or someone taking the body, everyone is pretty respectful of each other. I've always found the less skilled leagues to be more chippy but on Wednesday nights no one has gotten too crazy either.

Thursdays sound like a good time though.

[RecLeagueHero 0]

I think the day will come when you'll have to present ID before each game to prove you are on the roster. Possibly even have to carry a badge like at a health club or something similar.

Also, I've seen a couple comments about league managers not wanting to throw people out because of the loss of income. I would argue that you are more likely to improve income in the long term from word of mouth getting out that your league doesn't tolerate stupid players.

And in the short term, you aren't losing money because you don't refund the guy. I think all leagues should have a no refund policy for this type of behavior.

I think the ID system wouldn't be a bad idea, but I'd also venture to guess you'd run into lazy refs or scorekeepers that wouldn't bother with it. You could be right that, but I also can see how people might stay away if the league gets a rep for tossing players too quickly as well. I know this league does have a no refund policy, but I also know a couple of the guys that got tossed took the league manager to small claims court and won partial refunds. Which is why I've always thought instead of collecting the entire season fee up front it should be collected in 3-4 installments. Encourages teams to police themselves by not having thugs because if a player gets booted the team has to bear the extra expense instead of creating a situation in which a service has already been paid for and the league goes into the position of refusing to provide that service.

[Fletch 219]

gotcha. i realized that about 30 seconds ago...it's back to back and then i saw you post about mission and labeda...what team do you play for?

Monday nights - Untouchables

Thursday nights - Irish Car Bombs

[Tikkanen 1]

I don't understand how you find so much of this crap... none of this stuff seems to happen to me.

I'm tellin' ya, man....our Monday night league is NOTHING compared to the Thursday night league as far as chippiness goes. Not by a longshot (and that's a good thing). It's pretty brutal.

do you play at iceoplex?

Nah, this is roller at 949 in Irvine.

Maybe it's because I'm the biggest asshole on my teams normally and I've toned it down but even in my other leagues I really don't see most of this stuff. Sunday advanced at Corona has a PIHA player or two in it also and besides an occasional slash or someone taking the body, everyone is pretty respectful of each other. I've always found the less skilled leagues to be more chippy but on Wednesday nights no one has gotten too crazy either.

Thursdays sound like a good time though.

As an expert on battling with Fletch I think he's 1 of those guys you play against that you love to hate. He's got a little bit of the Tikkanen/Vishi attitude/drive but I don't think he realizes it. It's either that or the $750 roller skates he wears-allegedly.

[Fletch 219]

As an expert on battling with Fletch I think he's 1 of those guys you play against that you love to hate. He's got a little bit of the Tikkanen/Vishi attitude/drive but I don't think he realizes it. It's either that or the $750 roller skates he wears-allegedly.

Haha....I'm not that chippy anymore. I'm too old for that sort of thing ;)

I only have 10 PIM's this season in both leagues combined.

[Vishi05 0]

As an expert on battling with Fletch I think he's 1 of those guys you play against that you love to hate. He's got a little bit of the Tikkanen/Vishi attitude/drive but I don't think he realizes it. It's either that or the $750 roller skates he wears-allegedly.

Haha....I'm not that chippy anymore. I'm too old for that sort of thing ;)

I only have 10 PIM's this season in both leagues combined.

You f'ing goon, eh.

[metalwinger13 1]

I looked at the league board for beer league at my local rink and one guy had 60 penalty minutes in 14 games, yet number 3 in league scoring. if anyone wants to see the rest of that league.. not sure if i can post but just message me and ill send ya a link to it. The whole team seems like goons..

[JR97 2]

I looked at the league board for beer league at my local rink and one guy had 60 penalty minutes in 14 games, yet number 3 in league scoring. if anyone wants to see the rest of that league.. not sure if i can post but just message me and ill send ya a link to it. The whole team seems like goons..

I played with a kid like that. Kid scored something like 60 goals and was the assist leader in 12 games and lead the league in PIM's by a long shot. In this league you got tossed on the 3rd so this kid liked to make that 3rd count. Most of our games weren't even close, so when he got bored he got cheap and would try and get tossed.

The next season he was told by the league that the only way he could stay with our team was if he played in net since his skill level was beyond our league. But even in net he'd pull sh*t. My "favorite" was when he'd knock the net off on purpose or throw his stick so he could face a penalty shot.

[NuggyBuggy 0]

The line is about respect, sportsmanship, and the grown up notion that everyone has to face bosses and/or customers the next day. The line says, "Its beer league and I've got much more important shit to deal with tomorrow." Fletch's championship story is pretty much the standard when a team of young kids gets beat by an older team, especially one that brought their "fans".

I've just seen too much shit started in the line by adults who should know better to feel that it could really mean much at all. I've also seen fist fights in the parking lot, keyed and vandalized cars, etc. after games - so what did those handshakes really mean ?

If the idiots on either team don't already know before the puck drops that we all have more important things to deal with tomorrow, shaking hands in a line isn't gonna make it so.

[Wolfpack_1986 154]

played a team tonight that felt the need to lead with elbows... in a non checking league. One guy and i collided going for the puck, the contact wasnt the issue, its that he elbowed me in the stomach. i thought i was going to puke... guys on my bench said the asshole had been doing it to them all game, too. gonna talk with the captain of this team... piss me off.

[taigyr 0]

Just finished a one game winner takes all final. Two of their skilled players drew calls by pretending to be injured. One guy is 6'3 a strong skater and their best player. If you push him he simply rolls it off. However he has a odd habit of throwing himself into the boards if your shoulder taps his. He lays there for 10 seconds writhing and then gets up and joins the power play.

Another guy laid there for 5 minutes and it took two guys to carry him off the ice. He drew another penalty. Five minutes later he skating and throwing elbows like nothing happened.

I really hate that style of play. It's cheap and really shows no character at all.

[Allsmokenopancake 0]

Just looking at the stats from one of my league games. New team to the league, we haven't played them yet, their 2nd game, guy gets 50 PIMS, fighting, slashing to the head, roughing etc etc. Gets a month suspension, and our league has a rule if you get 60 PIM's in a season, you are suspended for the remainder of the season.

2 games, now a 4 week suspension, and a 10 PIM threshold for out and out suspension.

I don't have that kind of money to waste

[tro 4]

I looked at the league board for beer league at my local rink and one guy had 60 penalty minutes in 14 games, yet number 3 in league scoring. if anyone wants to see the rest of that league.. not sure if i can post but just message me and ill send ya a link to it. The whole team seems like goons..

3yrs ago I was third in Pts and 2nd in Penalty minutes, not a goon, you would never see me cheap shot someone, 98% of my penalties where misconducts for arguing with refs or getting hit and starting a fight/shove match (young, dumb and full of )

This year 1 penalty, for shoving in the last game of the season. Feels good to grow up a little.