New Reebok Stick Line

[JR Boucicaut 3805]

Any plans to offer the IW or MS curves in a comp blade/stick?

COME ON

The Titan curves? That's a waste of a mold.

[OllieCCM 1]

What's the difference between the 6k and 8k sticks? Are both true one piece? And does one or the other have a stiffer or more durable blade?

The 8k has a stiffer blade than the 6k. It's also lighter and has a matrix construction that significantly improves strength and stability. As stated earlier, the 8k is a high end stick for elite players but offered for less. The 6k is recommended for an intermediate player.

Any plans to offer the IW or MS curves in a comp blade/stick?

Not right now.

[troy 12]

Are the Light and Mid flex sticks shorter than the other senior flexes?

[Lemieux 66]

The matrix construction reduces torsion, not the material. The material we used reduces weight without sacrificing durability.

Is the "matrix construction" a manufacturing method that's different from a regular layup of sandwiching different layers of fibreglass+carbon with epoxy? Based on the word "matrix", I wonder if the layers are interlocked between each other. Can you shed any light? How is the matrix construction restricted to the stick's kickpoint?

Finally, in most OPS sticks, the blade and shaft are built separately and then connected together using various techniques. Essentially, the carbon fibers in the shaft don't connect to the ones in the blade reducing energy transfer. With Pure Fiber Technology, the stick is molded as one. As a result, the same fibers that run through the shaft run all the way down to the blade maximizing energy transfer.

Are you implying that Pure Fiber Technology is another term to saying that you're making a "true" one-piece stick?

[OllieCCM 1]

Are the Light and Mid flex sticks shorter than the other senior flexes?

Yes.

Here are the lengths on the 10k:

Stiff: 60"

Reg: 60"

Mid: 58"

Light: 57"

[EBondo 233]

Any plans to offer the IW or MS curves in a comp blade/stick?

COME ON

The Titan curves? That's a waste of a mold.

I love that IW curve. I use that for my outdoor stick (the Jofa version). Only big curve I've really ever liked.

I agree with DEATHTRON however, a 60 day warranty would do wonders for the customer in my opinion. I believe that was one of Mission's biggest advantages with their sticks. They would make a quality stick (M-1 was one of my favorite OPS ever) and back it up with a 60-day warranty. Too bad the Hex-1 was one of the worst OPS I used, I thought they were headed in the right direction

[Jarick 5]

I'd really be interested in seeing what an optional extended warranty would do to the price of sticks and/or how successful it would be. For example, stick with no warranty = $160, 30-day warranty = $15, 60-day warranty = $30. Numbers might be off, but you get the idea.

My guess is that, if the warranty is so expensive that they have to tack that on to the cost, they're already getting a 100% attach rate. And if the warranty replacement costs aren't significant, it's just a standard market driven feature that instills consumer confidence.

I probably just shot down the idea, since I wouldn't spend $150 or more on a stick with no warranty. In fact, the only $150 stick I've ever bought (Dolomite) I did so because I could turn it into a shaft if I broke the blade, so I would get more for my money. But I digress.

[JR Boucicaut 3805]

Any plans to offer the IW or MS curves in a comp blade/stick?

COME ON

The Titan curves? That's a waste of a mold.

I love that IW curve. I use that for my outdoor stick (the Jofa version). Only big curve I've really ever liked.

I agree with DEATHTRON however, a 60 day warranty would do wonders for the customer in my opinion. I believe that was one of Mission's biggest advantages with their sticks. They would make a quality stick (M-1 was one of my favorite OPS ever) and back it up with a 60-day warranty. Too bad the Hex-1 was one of the worst OPS I used, I thought they were headed in the right direction

Mission only had a 60 day warranty on the Ti-Pro and Titanium - because they believed they had a material that warranted the extra warranty.

The rest of the sticks had standard warranties.

I'm of the thought that there shouldn't be any warranties at all. You're hitting a puck. However, given the price of composite sticks to manufacture, price drops won't happen. And NO, it doesn't cost Easton $8 to make a SyNergy.

[OllieCCM 1]

The matrix construction reduces torsion, not the material. The material we used reduces weight without sacrificing durability.

Is the "matrix construction" a manufacturing method that's different from a regular layup of sandwiching different layers of fibreglass+carbon with epoxy? Based on the word "matrix", I wonder if the layers are interlocked between each other. Can you shed any light? How is the matrix construction restricted to the stick's kickpoint?

Finally, in most OPS sticks, the blade and shaft are built separately and then connected together using various techniques. Essentially, the carbon fibers in the shaft don't connect to the ones in the blade reducing energy transfer. With Pure Fiber Technology, the stick is molded as one. As a result, the same fibers that run through the shaft run all the way down to the blade maximizing energy transfer.

Are you implying that Pure Fiber Technology is another term to saying that you're making a "true" one-piece stick?

The matrix construction isn't restricted to the kick point. Pick a 10k stick and you'll be able to see the matrix construction for yourself.

Yes, the 10k is a "true" OPS.

[skater32 0]

What makes the 8k so good? Does it have most of the features of the 10k? Thanks.

[OllieCCM 1]

What makes the 8k so good? Does it have most of the features of the 10k? Thanks.

The 10k does has a few more features than the 8k. The 10k is a Pure Fiber stick and is the lightest stick we've ever made. The 8k however offers most of the features you'd find on other high end sticks but for less.

[K9 Unit 1]

ok so would the 10k be more durable or the 8k? since your leaning on the 8k so much, you've got me interested =P

[OllieCCM 1]

ok so would the 10k be more durable or the 8k? since your leaning on the 8k so much, you've got me interested =P

No, the 10k and 8k are equally as durable. If you're looking for the best performance stick Reebok has to offer than I recommend the 10k. It's worth the upgrade. However, if you're looking to spend a little less but still want the performance and feel of a high end product, the 8k is an excellent option.

Thank you for all your questions, feedback and suggestions. I've enjoyed my time on this Website and leave with several key takeaways. Perhaps next year, you may even see some of your suggestions in the Reebok stick line.

Thanks especially to JR for letting me start a topic on his site and exchange ideas with all of you.

If you decide to purchase a new Reebok stick, feel free to drop me a line and tell me what you think.

Have a great summer.

Ollie

[TBLfan 25]

Just curious, are the 8K and 10K the same OEM?

Thanks for the trouble, it will be a great thread to point future questions to in the future.

[pantherfan 0]

This threads been a great read, thanks. :)

[OllieCCM 1]

Just curious, are the 8K and 10K the same OEM?

Thanks for the trouble, it will be a great thread to point future questions to in the future.

Yes and thanks for all your comments.

[1stLiner91 0]

The Smyth wasn't even close to a real toe curve. It looked more like a mid-banana if anything. This picture is from someone who was just selling a Smyth curve. I don't know how Warrior could call this a toe.

my stick didn't look like that :P

[skater32 0]

Great thread! Thanks for everything Ollie!

[myelinsheath 0]

got a chance to see the 8k shaft today. Really impressed, both by the price ($100 CAD) and by the looks and feel. All the other tapered shafts were more expensive.

I say good job to reebok on coming out with a competitive product that wont (relatively) break the bank.

[redwingsfan93 0]

how much is the 8k gonna be?

[PWBIII 0]

thehockeyshop

they have it at 169.99 u.s.

[petertheasian 0]

when is the 10K and the 8.0.8 stick avaliable on hockeymonkey.com, they have the 6K and thats it

[OllieCCM 1]

when is the 10K and the 8.0.8 stick avaliable on hockeymonkey.com, they have the 6K and thats it

Please contact Hockey Monkey for an exact date but I'm told any day now. The 808 will only be launched at the beginning on the 2009-2010 hockey season.

thehockeyshop

they have it at 169.99 u.s.

You can now also see the complete line-up of Reebok sticks at www.reebokhockey.com

[OllieCCM 1]

got a chance to see the 8k shaft today. Really impressed, both by the price ($100 CAD) and by the looks and feel. All the other tapered shafts were more expensive.

I say good job to reebok on coming out with a competitive product that wont (relatively) break the bank.

Thanks. We made a conscious effort to offer hockey players elite performance at the right price in 2009. The line really breaks down as follows:

10k: Reebok's best and lightest premium stick ever for super elite players

8K: Elite performance and ultra-light weight at a great price

6k: Light weight stick for elite and intermediate players

5k: Performance and durability for less

4k: Good & durable OPS for recreational players

[redwingsfan93 0]

thehockeyshop

they have it at 169.99 u.s.

jeez i thought it was supossed to be a high end stick at an afortable price thats kinda much...