Gear Sightings 2009-2010 Gear Sightings

[shooter27 116]

I'm guessing Bauer is going to end up including the Fusion steel on its next incarnation of the top end Vapor skate in 18 months or so when its released?

Also, is the whole "split" top end with a limited edition skate and a slightly different top end skate (like the TO, One100 split) going to be continued in the future or is this a market test and the decision is TBD?

EDIT: Interesting little tidbit about the nitinol steel mentioned earlier http://journals.lww.com/acsm-msse/Fulltext..._By_A.1144.aspx

[Wolfpack_1986 154]

i'd imagine its TBD, if they sell all 3000 with ease, you'd bet your ass they'll continue, and likely jack teh price up.

regarding the nitinol... the problem is going to be like the rocket runner.... you have to find someone who knows how to sharpen it without over heating it. nitinol isnt a fan of being heated all the damn time, or rapidly, if my memory serves me right. its a really cool material, though.

[burrn 0]

Although it's kind of getting off topic..

One thing about the Fusion steel that I am a little concerned about is durability. I know Bauer has put a lot of time on producing this product and therefore I hope they've overcome the issue, but the part where the two metals meet seems kinda dubious. Thermal expansion coefficients are definitely going to vary, and going from room temperature to ice temperature on a daily basis (or maybe even more), not to mention heating from sharpenings is definitely going to cause some kind of fatigue at the fuse point.

We'll have to wait to see though.

[halfmoonyote 0]

Avery ditching TPS and using an Easton S19 last night v Montreal.

To my earlier point about Easton getting guys to switch as of late, here's who've I've noticed...

Avery (from TPS)

Malkin (from Bauer)

Kennedy (from Reebok and TPS)

Mueller (from Warrior)

Doan (from Warrior)

Aucoin (from Reebok wooden sticks)

W. Mitchell (from Warrior)

Coburn (from Bauer altho he did use Easton last year)

I'm sure there's plenty more, but that's who I've noticed lately. Seems Easton is really putting a push on.

[sebseb 0]

Although it's kind of getting off topic..

One thing about the Fusion steel that I am a little concerned about is durability. I know Bauer has put a lot of time on producing this product and therefore I hope they've overcome the issue, but the part where the two metals meet seems kinda dubious. Thermal expansion coefficients are definitely going to vary, and going from room temperature to ice temperature on a daily basis (or maybe even more), not to mention heating from sharpenings is definitely going to cause some kind of fatigue at the fuse point.

We'll have to wait to see though.

That is a solid argument, I am curious of how the 2 metals are fused. I read here, I think, they are riveted, but I'm curious if it's just that, or there is something like a resin binding them together, or are the 2 metals metallurgical fused (I don't know even if it can be done)

[meals7 0]

Avery ditching TPS and using an Easton S19 last night v Montreal.

To my earlier point about Easton getting guys to switch as of late, here's who've I've noticed...

Avery (from TPS)

Malkin (from Bauer)

Kennedy (from Reebok and TPS)

Mueller (from Warrior)

Doan (from Warrior)

Aucoin (from Reebok wooden sticks)

W. Mitchell (from Warrior)

Coburn (from Bauer altho he did use Easton last year)

I'm sure there's plenty more, but that's who I've noticed lately. Seems Easton is really putting a push on.

If you're referring to Tyler Kennedy from the Pens, he used an S17 before he switched to Reebok (either beginning of last season or 2 seasons ago)

[A2rhino 63]

Zetts, and Bertuzzi switched to the S19 as well.

On another note what skates was Patrick Eaves wearing last night.

[Darshu 0]

Malkin's also been back in an X:60 since switching to the S19, so it could have something to do with trying to break out of his slump too.

[li7039 0]

Henrik Lundqvist has a new mask, very nice IMO

[hockeyluke88 0]

Zetts, and Bertuzzi switched to the S19 as well.

On another note what skates was Patrick Eaves wearing last night.

Eaves looks to be wearing x60's with the plastic skateguards on the sides for protection. I believe he bruised his foot from a shot earlier this year.

[dsjunior1388 81]

Zetts, and Bertuzzi switched to the S19 as well.

They both used the SE16 in the past, they very well could be Synergys repainted as Stealths to sell the newer stick. They did that with the S17 for guys like Briere and Getzlaf. I don't know about Bertuzzi but I have noticed Zetterberg has been a strictly Synergy guy for a long time and have heard he doesn't like the taperred sticks and in particular the eliptical taper.

[Chadd 916]

Zetts, and Bertuzzi switched to the S19 as well.

They both used the SE16 in the past, they very well could be Synergys repainted as Stealths to sell the newer stick. They did that with the S17 for guys like Briere and Getzlaf. I don't know about Bertuzzi but I have noticed Zetterberg has been a strictly Synergy guy for a long time and have heard he doesn't like the taperred sticks and in particular the eliptical taper.

You do know the synergy is tapered as well, right?

[cptjeff 0]

Zetts, and Bertuzzi switched to the S19 as well.

On another note what skates was Patrick Eaves wearing last night.

Eaves looks to be wearing x60's with the plastic skateguards on the sides for protection. I believe he bruised his foot from a shot earlier this year.

He used composite ones with the Hurricanes, probably the same ones, or at least the same type.

[A2rhino 63]

Either way I hope that this gets Zetts back on track and scoring more often.

[MLSman 22]

Um...did anyone just happen to see the intro for the Calgary-SJ game on Rogers sportsnet? Iginla had a pair of TotalOnes in his locker with Tuuk Custom+ holders. Must be breaking them in for the olympics.

[MLSman 22]

That is a solid argument, I am curious of how the 2 metals are fused. I read here, I think, they are riveted, but I'm curious if it's just that, or there is something like a resin binding them together, or are the 2 metals metallurgical fused (I don't know even if it can be done)

Up close, you can see what look like tiny rivets...there are a number of them across the blade.

[Wolfpack_1986 154]

my guess.... based on literature and inference... there are a number of steel posts, that are shaper like a nail, or a V or something where the top is a little larger. the steel is forged, tehn placed into a cast, where molten aluminum is then poured in.... aluminum's melting point is FAR lower than steel, and the thermal transport properties are ridonkulous (ask any welder)... so you basically end up with a mechanical attachment, maybe some co-mingling of crystaline matricies along the boundaries of the metals.... i wouldnt bet that there is anything besides a mechanical attachment, with the seam covered by paint... but i could be wrong...

I'd like to cut into a set and see what the hell is going on. any volunteers?

i will advise anyone that may be considering cutting into the blades.... be careful of how you do it, the alloy of aluminum is crucial, they're designed so that the grinding wheel should never see aluminum... Aluminum gains a fairly tenacious oxide layer when exposed to air, which will form very fast. rapid oxidation essentially means fire... so, aluminum dust may catch fire. so dont grind it. (maybe a bauer guy can chime in as to what alloy they used for saftey's sake, i'm sure they considered it)

(at a slower scale, take like a razor blade and scrape down a block of aluminum, and it will smell funny, maybe turn black. that smell is a result of that oxidation)

[/nerd]

[TBLfan 25]

I would think that a T shape would have been what they use. Just because that's the first thing that comes to mind and it would work so why over engineer it? They're from NA not Germany.

[burrn 0]

my guess.... based on literature and inference... there are a number of steel posts, that are shaper like a nail, or a V or something where the top is a little larger. the steel is forged, tehn placed into a cast, where molten aluminum is then poured in.... aluminum's melting point is FAR lower than steel, and the thermal transport properties are ridonkulous (ask any welder)... so you basically end up with a mechanical attachment, maybe some co-mingling of crystaline matricies along the boundaries of the metals.... i wouldnt bet that there is anything besides a mechanical attachment, with the seam covered by paint... but i could be wrong...

I'd like to cut into a set and see what the hell is going on. any volunteers?

i will advise anyone that may be considering cutting into the blades.... be careful of how you do it, the alloy of aluminum is crucial, they're designed so that the grinding wheel should never see aluminum... Aluminum gains a fairly tenacious oxide layer when exposed to air, which will form very fast. rapid oxidation essentially means fire... so, aluminum dust may catch fire. so dont grind it. (maybe a bauer guy can chime in as to what alloy they used for saftey's sake, i'm sure they considered it)

(at a slower scale, take like a razor blade and scrape down a block of aluminum, and it will smell funny, maybe turn black. that smell is a result of that oxidation)

[/nerd]

how about potassium blades! lol

And TBL, I know it's going to be easy to mechanically attach the two the way you said (as puck_it has mentioned), but as I stated earlier there's really a lot of expansion/contraction that'll go on at the point they meet, and just attaching them mechanically is going to bear some problems. Or at least I think.

[Wolfpack_1986 154]

how about potassium blades! lol

And TBL, I know it's going to be easy to mechanically attach the two the way you said (as puck_it has mentioned), but as I stated earlier there's really a lot of expansion/contraction that'll go on at the point they meet, and just attaching them mechanically is going to bear some problems. Or at least I think.

titanium would do it.

theres a reason why we dont have titanium or aluminum skate blades :P

[the iceman 132]

Brown's skates.

[Evomike1 0]

That pic shows how ridiculously tall Chara is. Wow.

Oh yea, Total Ones on Brown is cool too.

[shoeshine boy 242]

That pic shows how ridiculously tall Chara is. Wow.

Oh yea, Total Ones on Brown is cool too.

Chara isn't just tall, he's a huge human!

his stick alone is taller than Gionta!

[BenderHockey 127]

Who's the orange guy dropping the puck?

[the iceman 132]

Who's the orange guy dropping the puck?

The most electrifying man in sports entertainment.