The 2009-2010 Suspension Thread

[Allsmokenopancake 0]

Colby Armstrong should be getting a couple of games for a very deliberate elbow to the head of Perrault in the caps/thrashers game tonight

[Allsmokenopancake 0]

Video of the armstrong elbow to the head of Perrault. When he realises he is not going to make the hit he clearly and deliberatly brings up his elbow to connect to the head.

Clear look at about hte 40 second mark

[Trooper 8]

Video of the armstrong elbow to the head of Perrault. When he realises he is not going to make the hit he clearly and deliberatly brings up his elbow to connect to the head.

Clear look at about hte 40 second mark

Yeah, not much question about it. The most amazing part of it is the adamant, "There HAS to be a minor penalty!" Minor? After all that's happened? Armstrong has his elbow extended more than any of the other hits we've seen in the last month. Send a message. NHL fails again. If you are going to be incompetent, I guess you want to be completely incompetent, not just mediocre.

[Allsmokenopancake 0]

Yeah, not much question about it. The most amazing part of it is the adamant, "There HAS to be a minor penalty!" Minor? After all that's happened? Armstrong has his elbow extended more than any of the other hits we've seen in the last month. Send a message. NHL fails again. If you are going to be incompetent, I guess you want to be completely incompetent, not just mediocre.

Again it's probably going to be an outcome over intent, which is why the league is so messed up regarding dicipline.

Perrault got up, skated to the bench on his own power, missed 2 shifts and finished the game

However, the intent was clearly there, regardless of the extent (or lack) of an injury

[Chadd 916]

Armstrong has done this half a dozen times over the course of his career. He is exactly the type of guy that has forced the league to come up with a rule like this.

[Allsmokenopancake 0]

Armstrong has done this half a dozen times over the course of his career. He is exactly the type of guy that has forced the league to come up with a rule like this.

And not to whine on about the canadian bias, TSN had 3 seperate articles, on from Barnaby, one discussing whether or not he was dirty and one from one of the other guys (dreger maybe) after the hit on Campbell

That was a stupid hit, but I don't think he intentionally tried to hurt campbell.

This was intent all the way, and the refs didn't even call it a penalty, they called armstrong along with Morisson for the scuffle that ensued. The refs even blamed Perrault for it

(from the Atlanta Journal Constitution blog)

"I just banged a forecheck on him," Armstrong said after the game. "I had a pretty good line on him. He’s a pretty good little shifty player and I think he kind of bailed out there at the end. I saw the replay. If anything I just tried to get a piece of him. I didn’t mean to get my arms up in his kitchen like that. It just happened so fast. I just tried to get a piece of him. I talked to the ref afterward and he said he ducked out of the way and fell backward."

So to be clear, the refs did not call him for elbowing, charging or anything and there is absolutely zero discussion of it on TSN etc today, apart from the one paragraph in the game story itself

[EBondo 233]

Again why I think Armstrong is one of the biggest pricks in this league.

[Chadd 916]

Two games

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=523728

[retroXvertigo 4]

I was at that game. Actually had lower level seats right where that happened. Verizon center got REAL rowdy when he didn't get called for that.

Almost 19,000 people yelling "Ref you suck. Ref you suck." for a few minutes.

[Allsmokenopancake 0]

Two games

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=523728

How he gets 2 games and Mike green, not a repeat offender got 3 I don't know

[n3ss 0]

How he gets 2 games and Mike green, not a repeat offender got 3 I don't know

note to mention that hit looked a lot more deliberate than mike greens.

[furlanitalia 1]

When was Mike Green suspended?

[pody37 3]

When was Mike Green suspended?

Mike Green Suspended

[furlanitalia 1]

Ohhh I thought it was a recent suspension.

[camhockey16 5]

here is the first video i have seen of it

poni gets two games per tsn.ca

http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=317320

[RiSeOnFiRe 0]

Hey wow. It looks like the NHL is actually getting their act together.. I hope I didn't speak too soon though.

here is the first video i have seen of it

*Youtube link*

poni gets two games per tsn.ca

http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=317320

[camhockey16 5]

anyone think sutton will be getting two games or so?

[Slugworth 0]

anyone think sutton will be getting two games or so?

I don't think so... They all said it was a clean hit..Even Crosby said "He had his head down"

[RadioGaGa 162]

I like the announcer sayign it's "way, way, way too late!"

C'mon...head up or you deserve to get destroyed. Clean hit. If they suspend for that....I give up on trying to figure out what's clean and what's not!

[Chadd 916]

I like the announcer sayign it's "way, way, way too late!"

C'mon...head up or you deserve to get destroyed. Clean hit. If they suspend for that....I give up on trying to figure out what's clean and what's not!

I disagree. Leopold was engaged with another defensive player, and was fighting for to control the puck. Sutton came from an angle where he couldn't be seen while Leopold was fighting to control the puck and went high with the hit. Yes, his arm was tucked, but he went for the shoulder to the head. This really does match up almost perfectly with the new rule they just put in place. Add in in Sutton's history of suspensions and borderline behavior and it's an obvious suspension to me. Then again, so was Cooke's hit.

[camhockey16 5]

there are alot of criteria that this hit doesnt meet like - hit from behind - raised elbow - leaving the feet

but i think it was targeting the head - if he would have hit any other body part first i dont think leopold would have gotten knocked out - im not saying he intended to hit him in the head, but thats what he ended up doing. with how tall sutton is the majority of his hits are going to be to the head - but i dont think that means he gets a free pass either.

with how pissy he was in the postgame interview i would bet he thinks he is going to get a game or two at least

[Chadd 916]

there are alot of criteria that this hit doesnt meet like - hit from behind - raised elbow - leaving the feet

That has nothing to do with the new head shot rule.

[psh 25]

there are alot of criteria that this hit doesnt meet like - hit from behind - raised elbow - leaving the feet

but i think it was targeting the head - if he would have hit any other body part first i dont think leopold would have gotten knocked out - im not saying he intended to hit him in the head, but thats what he ended up doing. with how tall sutton is the majority of his hits are going to be to the head - but i dont think that means he gets a free pass either.

with how pissy he was in the postgame interview i would bet he thinks he is going to get a game or two at least

He was pissy because he was right. The league has already said it was a clean hit. No further action coming.

[Cobra2717 0]

I disagree. Leopold was engaged with another defensive player, and was fighting for to control the puck. Sutton came from an angle where he couldn't be seen while Leopold was fighting to control the puck and went high with the hit. Yes, his arm was tucked, but he went for the shoulder to the head. This really does match up almost perfectly with the new rule they just put in place. Add in in Sutton's history of suspensions and borderline behavior and it's an obvious suspension to me. Then again, so was Cooke's hit.

I'm not disagreeing you, i just think that's sometimes hard to avoid for the bigger guys. Sutton is quite a bit bigger than Leopold. I guess I'm just curious how they are gonna handle that...I have not really read into the new rule much.

[psh 25]

I'm not disagreeing you, i just think that's sometimes hard to avoid for the bigger guys. Sutton is quite a bit bigger than Leopold. I guess I'm just curious how they are gonna handle that...I have not really read into the new rule much.

I've been a Leopold fan since following him in college, so I'm not a wild Sutton defender, but all three of the guys on NHL on the Fly this morning said that the hit was a tucked elbow hit from the front that would not be punishable under the new rule. I'm going to defer to them. Further, I don't see how you draft a rule that takes Sutton's hit out of the game without taking all open ice hits out of the game.

I dislike devastating hits with engaged players (the classic Stevens technique) but this one really didn't bother me once I saw the replays. Leopold was not tied up by the Sen, he was trying to get around him. I don't think they were even in contact at all when you see the overhead shot. If they were truly tied up or Leopold's stick was being levered up and away, it would be a different story, and I'd be all for a rule to address that. In that case, a player really is defenseless and at the mercy of the 3rd, oncoming player.