K9 Unit 1 Report post Posted November 12, 2009 kinda in context lolAnd she managed to come away with only a yellow card on the pitch.Saw this on another forum, after it went 'viral' she was kicked off the team.... B)surprised if she wasn't, and thats some bad refing right there Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phunky_monkey 6 Report post Posted November 13, 2009 7 or 8 goal differential is more than enough to start backing off and working on the finer details of your game. Work the breakout, get your passing game going, give the less skilled guys more of a run etc.I remember playing under 14's in inline and the team being asked by the ref to back off in an 8-0 game, so I'd use that as a benchmark. Of course it depends on the team you're playing to a degree. A lot of teams get very chippy when down 4 or more goals, and if that's the case and they were starting trouble I'd be more inclined to not ease off, that's just human nature though I think. If they're decent guys then do the right thing.My 2c :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RecLeagueHero 0 Report post Posted November 13, 2009 Saw this on another forum, after it went 'viral' she was kicked off the team.... B)With the press attention it got I don't think there was any other choice without bringing down chaos on the women's soccer program. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chadd 916 Report post Posted November 13, 2009 Saw this on another forum, after it went 'viral' she was kicked off the team.... B)With the press attention it got I don't think there was any other choice without bringing down chaos on the women's soccer program. The first comments I heard from the coach was that it was out of character and she deserved a second chance. Every asshole deserves at least one chance to change their behavior. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RecLeagueHero 0 Report post Posted November 13, 2009 Saw this on another forum, after it went 'viral' she was kicked off the team.... B)With the press attention it got I don't think there was any other choice without bringing down chaos on the women's soccer program. The first comments I heard from the coach was that it was out of character and she deserved a second chance. Every asshole deserves at least one chance to change their behavior.If you take any one, of maybe a couple, of those incidents individually I would agree. However, the repeated (and increasingly) serious nature of the dangerous and vicious play she was engaging in don't warrant a chance for a repeat preformance. You kick someone in the face while they're falling and you could easily have a broken neck on your hands. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dsjunior1388 81 Report post Posted November 13, 2009 Saw this on another forum, after it went 'viral' she was kicked off the team.... B)With the press attention it got I don't think there was any other choice without bringing down chaos on the women's soccer program. The first comments I heard from the coach was that it was out of character and she deserved a second chance. Every asshole deserves at least one chance to change their behavior.If you take any one, of maybe a couple, of those incidents individually I would agree. However, the repeated (and increasingly) serious nature of the dangerous and vicious play she was engaging in don't warrant a chance for a repeat preformance. You kick someone in the face while they're falling and you could easily have a broken neck on your hands.Exactly. If you pull those 5 moves in 5 different games, you're considered a repeat offender and you get worse punishment every time. Whats the difference between doing it 5 times in one game and 5 times in 5 games? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chadd 916 Report post Posted November 13, 2009 Saw this on another forum, after it went 'viral' she was kicked off the team.... B)With the press attention it got I don't think there was any other choice without bringing down chaos on the women's soccer program. The first comments I heard from the coach was that it was out of character and she deserved a second chance. Every asshole deserves at least one chance to change their behavior.If you take any one, of maybe a couple, of those incidents individually I would agree. However, the repeated (and increasingly) serious nature of the dangerous and vicious play she was engaging in don't warrant a chance for a repeat preformance. You kick someone in the face while they're falling and you could easily have a broken neck on your hands.Exactly. If you pull those 5 moves in 5 different games, you're considered a repeat offender and you get worse punishment every time. Whats the difference between doing it 5 times in one game and 5 times in 5 games?Anyone can have one bad day. She should have been ejected from that game, no doubt about it. The whole point of repeat offenders is that they have been told that their actions are not acceptable each time and told not to do it again. The escalating penalties come from continued violations, despite the repeated warnings. Without the warnings/suspensions, you aren't a repeat offender. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
biff44 0 Report post Posted November 13, 2009 Well, I have asked players at the midget level what they thought about getting blown out, like a 10-1 score. I was surprised to hear that they did NOT want the other team to hold back. They thought that was even more demeaning than simply getting trounced. And boy, when they DID score that one reply goal, man did they feel good about it!Face it, there are all levels of hockey out there. In general, the kids want to get better, and they feel that being schooled by a much better team is a good learning experience--it shows them how much harder they need to practice. Mind you, we are talking about older kids here. I do not think a bunch of 10 year olds would be as philosophical about losing bigtime. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AHF 1 Report post Posted November 13, 2009 When I'm scorekeeping, I won't put more than a 7-goal differential on the board. I did a 17-7 game last week, and the goofs on the winning team didn't let up at all. Cherry-picking at the blue line, slappers from the hashmarks...you name it, they were doing it. I didn't say anything, but I contemplated going over to their bench to tell the guys to tone it down a bit. Pass the puck a bit...make everyone touch the puck before shooting...Needless to say, the game didn't end very well. Came darn close to having a fight in the stands between two guys that got tossed. ;) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sitzlejd 0 Report post Posted November 13, 2009 Saw this on another forum, after it went 'viral' she was kicked off the team.... B)With the press attention it got I don't think there was any other choice without bringing down chaos on the women's soccer program. The first comments I heard from the coach was that it was out of character and she deserved a second chance. Every asshole deserves at least one chance to change their behavior.If you take any one, of maybe a couple, of those incidents individually I would agree. However, the repeated (and increasingly) serious nature of the dangerous and vicious play she was engaging in don't warrant a chance for a repeat preformance. You kick someone in the face while they're falling and you could easily have a broken neck on your hands.Exactly. If you pull those 5 moves in 5 different games, you're considered a repeat offender and you get worse punishment every time. Whats the difference between doing it 5 times in one game and 5 times in 5 games?Anyone can have one bad day. She should have been ejected from that game, no doubt about it. The whole point of repeat offenders is that they have been told that their actions are not acceptable each time and told not to do it again. The escalating penalties come from continued violations, despite the repeated warnings. Without the warnings/suspensions, you aren't a repeat offender.I gotta disagree with that. This girl is college-age. She knows damn well that those actions were totally out of line and downright thugish, whether she has been "told her actions were unacceptable" or not. I agree we all have bad days but she looked like she was really out there to hurt someone and that's not right no matter what kind of day you had. I don't know if I would've kicked her off the team completely, but if I was the coach she would've sat for a long time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chadd 916 Report post Posted November 14, 2009 I gotta disagree with that. This girl is college-age. She knows damn well that those actions were totally out of line and downright thugish, whether she has been "told her actions were unacceptable" or not. I agree we all have bad days but she looked like she was really out there to hurt someone and that's not right no matter what kind of day you had. I don't know if I would've kicked her off the team completely, but if I was the coach she would've sat for a long time.I would have suspended her for a while as well. My point was simply that being tossed off the team seemed a bit extreme, especially after the coach's comments. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ntwusc 62 Report post Posted November 14, 2009 If it's a youth game then no need to run up more than 5 or 6. If it gets to that point let the 3rd and 4th liners play alot more or mix up the lines so that the better kids can set the weaker kids up for goals, even switch D and F's up. It is always good to see kids score who never get the chance.In our mens league our team will only let it get to 6 goals, after that they keep the clock running and we would rather keep playing then run the game out short. So we work passing and positions.Unfortunately if it's a tourny that all goes out the window because of the goals for/against. My son's team just had to blow another team out (11-1) so they could make it to the finals. I hate having to do it because it can create alot of on ice problems, but it has to be done.My men's league uses least PIM's as the first tiebreaker for playoffs, which has made us cut a few guys over the years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chadd 916 Report post Posted November 14, 2009 If it's a youth game then no need to run up more than 5 or 6. If it gets to that point let the 3rd and 4th liners play alot more or mix up the lines so that the better kids can set the weaker kids up for goals, even switch D and F's up. It is always good to see kids score who never get the chance.In our mens league our team will only let it get to 6 goals, after that they keep the clock running and we would rather keep playing then run the game out short. So we work passing and positions.Unfortunately if it's a tourny that all goes out the window because of the goals for/against. My son's team just had to blow another team out (11-1) so they could make it to the finals. I hate having to do it because it can create alot of on ice problems, but it has to be done.My men's league uses least PIM's as the first tiebreaker for playoffs, which has made us cut a few guys over the years.I love that rule, suggested it a few times here but nobody wants any part of that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shifter 0 Report post Posted November 14, 2009 Well, I have asked players at the midget level what they thought about getting blown out, like a 10-1 score. I was surprised to hear that they did NOT want the other team to hold back. They thought that was even more demeaning than simply getting trounced. And boy, when they DID score that one reply goal, man did they feel good about it!Face it, there are all levels of hockey out there. In general, the kids want to get better, and they feel that being schooled by a much better team is a good learning experience--it shows them how much harder they need to practice. Mind you, we are talking about older kids here. I do not think a bunch of 10 year olds would be as philosophical about losing bigtime.haha same story here as a midget player after we scored just 1 goal, we felt like we accomplished something with the 1 goal against the best team in the league because they dropped out of AA division to A division. Tonight's practice was probably the most intense of all year. We worked on our flaws and skated pretty hard all night through out the drills and pretty much want to play them again.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slapshot9123 0 Report post Posted November 14, 2009 When i play beer league over the summer once we get a 3-4 goal lead i generally let up and look to make passes instead of looking to shoot/dangle. I play at a level where I clearly should not be playing but, everyone on the team im friends with and I love playing with them.2 years ago my midget minor team was blowing teams out by 10+ goals a game, we would stop at 15. When you have a team let up too much they start to get lazy and players fall into bad habits. Plus its always hard to tell any player to not score. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Justin Liedloff 13 Report post Posted November 15, 2009 My men's league uses least PIM's as the first tiebreaker for playoffs, which has made us cut a few guys over the years.I would say more then a few. I can think of at least 5 guys, and that was just during my time!I think every rink should adopt that rule. Not only does it cut down on gooning, it also removes the need to score as many goals as possible in case there is a need for a tie breaker. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RecLeagueHero 0 Report post Posted November 15, 2009 Anyone can have one bad day. She should have been ejected from that game, no doubt about it. The whole point of repeat offenders is that they have been told that their actions are not acceptable each time and told not to do it again. The escalating penalties come from continued violations, despite the repeated warnings. Without the warnings/suspensions, you aren't a repeat offender.If it were a bad play, or maybe a couple of dangerous plays reflecting poor decision making that would be one thing. But yanking someone to the ground by her hair, punching someone in the back, and lastly the incident of kicking the player in the face as she fell just goes way outside having a bad day on the pitch. The ref probably needs to go as well, this was a big time failure on the part of the official, but end of the day you can't do that crap in soccer. I would also throw in there that I think it greatly reflects the lack of seriousness often taken by officials in women's college sports. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shifter 0 Report post Posted November 16, 2009 Well After a hard practise 2 days ago tonight we destroyed the other team 10-3. The coach told us to back off in the second period at 9-0 and told us to work on positioning and passing it around more. The one thing I have to say about the other team is they persevered pretty well straight to the end and played hard scoring only those 3 goals. The coach told us to back off because we didn't want them to be embarrassed and not wanting to play hockey at all.. so we decided to play them in the third period with the passing and positioning..we lost to them in the last period and we could of made it 10-0 =/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheHerminator22 0 Report post Posted November 16, 2009 10 is a little much. If you can obviously see that your team is dominating the whole game, stop them at like 7 and let them work on defensive play. You can also let them work on plays that you would in practice and see how they turn out. Basically once it get ridiculous, turn it into a practice and give them plays to work on that could be used for better teams. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ahriman 1 Report post Posted November 16, 2009 Anyone can have one bad day. She should have been ejected from that game, no doubt about it. The whole point of repeat offenders is that they have been told that their actions are not acceptable each time and told not to do it again. The escalating penalties come from continued violations, despite the repeated warnings. Without the warnings/suspensions, you aren't a repeat offender.If it were a bad play, or maybe a couple of dangerous plays reflecting poor decision making that would be one thing. But yanking someone to the ground by her hair, punching someone in the back, and lastly the incident of kicking the player in the face as she fell just goes way outside having a bad day on the pitch. The ref probably needs to go as well, this was a big time failure on the part of the official, but end of the day you can't do that crap in soccer. I would also throw in there that I think it greatly reflects the lack of seriousness often taken by officials in women's college sports.Watch some women's water polo games. I have friends who consider themselves a step above rape victims having played at a competitive high school level. Dunno who's fault it is things get to that level of "rough play" but lets just say if I were a girl I'd be wearing a lot more protective gear than I do now for any sport. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RecLeagueHero 0 Report post Posted November 17, 2009 Watch some women's water polo games. I have friends who consider themselves a step above rape victims having played at a competitive high school level. Dunno who's fault it is things get to that level of "rough play" but lets just say if I were a girl I'd be wearing a lot more protective gear than I do now for any sport.Don't know what goes on in women's water polo, don't really care for that matter. All sports have their own individual character, traditions, and rules. Fighting in hockey is common, and generally treated as such. Throw a punch in a rugby match and that might well be the end of your career. The NCAA and the school were quite clear: the conduct was beyond just having a bad day and she's off the squad. It's not like she didn't do anything to warrant it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Harv 86 Report post Posted November 18, 2009 This was the scene at our college game earlier this year..The team called us and wanted/needed a game so we agreed. It wasn't like they were bad players, they just had no system of play. Running around like crazy, both d-men pinching. We would get breakaways and would take easy shots and go in. By the second period all 6 of our D-men were playing O, and the 3 and 4th liners got double shifted. We still would score. We weren't asses about it, we wouldn't celebrate. The other team would take stupid penalties. Arguing with the ref, throwing stuff, etc. The ref said to their team ''I don't care what the score is, a penalty is a penalty.'' Of course at the end of the game the team skated off without shaking our hands. We all stood in a line at center ice and the team just skated off the ice. Because of that I wish we would of scored 51 because of their behavior. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HattrickSwayze 3 Report post Posted November 18, 2009 21-1? Holy crap. Were you guys in the same division? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Machinehead2k5 32 Report post Posted November 18, 2009 My first season playing we had a team of NEWBIES in the lowest division and we lost each game (0-20) on an average score of 24-2. Now most of us from that team have moved up 3 divisions. :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wolfpack_1986 154 Report post Posted November 21, 2009 teams that used to blow us out, without mercy, we refuse to let up on. teams with good, really nice guys that we enjoy playing against, 7's that magic number. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites