Tuuk LS 2 holders vs. new Tuuk fusion

[markush 12]

I heard the new TotalOne 2010 Bauer skates will feature the new Tuuk fusion holders. Currently I have X-60 with LS 2 holders. What is the difference? Worth an upgrade ?

[sebseb 0]

I heard the new TotalOne 2010 Bauer skates will feature the new Tuuk fusion holders. Currently I have X-60 with LS 2 holders. What is the difference? Worth an upgrade ?

the holder is the same, only the steel is different

[drewptwo 1]

He is correct the holder will still be the LS2 holder but with fusion steel. The steel is part aluminum and part stainless (upper half is aluminum). This reduces the weight quite a bit. It is based on the same principle as the CCM rocket runner.

[markush 12]

So the difference is the steel, the weight - is it worth to make an upgrade? Any concrete data about the weight difference?

[Ahriman 1]

What do you mean concrete data about weight difference? It's lighter; that is a fact.

There is no scientific formula that will determine that the reduction will provide you personally with 38.78 more speed units per dollar invested.

[lukejameslarson 5]

i think that he is asking what the weight difference is between the LS2 steel and the fusion steel.

probably in grams, not speed units.

[stuie7 6]

Haha speed units.. IF the only difference is weight and its the same grade of previous Bauer steel its not worth $120 or whatever its retailing for when you can get Step for almost half that.

[lukejameslarson 5]

it is my understanding that it is a different grade steel, and is said to be able to hold an edge for a longer period of time.

[shotty 7]

There is no scientific formula that will determine that the reduction will provide you personally with 38.78 more speed units per dollar invested.

damn, guess i'm out.

[raganblink 82]

Fusion is 27% lighter than ls2. Its noticeable. Rest of htis should probably be in bauer catelogue or gear sightings...where its being discussed a lot.

[jimmy 194]

Anytime you reduce weight at the bottom of the skate (weight furthest away from the body is harder to move) that is a good thing. If the Fusion is like the Rockets, it will be a welcome addition. Hotblades were the first, awesome blades 33-40% lighter. The Rocket was even better because of the higher grade steel.

[markush 12]

Thanks for the input so far? Is there any better than the LS 2 out there right now? (just thinking about alternatives when thinking about upgrading my X-60 blades)

[CannonBall 0]

I'm debating replacing the Pitch 3's on my AGX's with the Tuuk Fusion's.

Thoughts and input are highly welcome.

[cbart 1]

Thanks for the input so far? Is there any better than the LS 2 out there right now? (just thinking about alternatives when thinking about upgrading my X-60 blades)

Step Steel

[shotty 7]

I'm debating replacing the Pitch 3's on my AGX's with the Tuuk Fusion's.

Thoughts and input are highly welcome.

you'd be replacing the Pitch 3s with Lightspeed 2 Holders, and the holders will accommodate the fusion/ls2/ls2.1/step. i say if you're willing to commit the money, it's worth it.

had i known about the fusion steel in august, i wouldn't have committed to custom+. now i fear that if i change my custom+ to LS2, the sole of the boot will be severely weakened by all the holes and/or the LS2 hole pattern will overlap some of the other holes.

[number21 3]

Why change pitch3s? They're great!

I am considering picking up extra Pitch3s off ebay to have for the future I like them so much.

[Hede 2]

Fusion is 27% lighter than ls2. Its noticeable. Rest of htis should probably be in bauer catelogue or gear sightings...where its being discussed a lot.

Was thinking about this but what is the weight of the LS2? 150 grams or more? Yes 27% sounds like much but what is the weight?

[stuie7 6]

yeah, the common 280-288 is in the region of 150g.

[troy 12]

Does anyone know what the weight savings of the Fusion are when compared to the perforated LS2 steel?

[raganblink 82]

http://www.modsquadhockey.com/forums/index...mp;#entry758489

[troy 12]

I read the thread, the catalog and the online spec rundowns and saw that bit of information, but starting with the XXXXs I believe Bauer stopped using perforated steel so I assume that 27% number came from non-perf LS2 runners, which is why I asked the question I did.

[raganblink 82]

Oh sorry I just didn't read it right. The figures they come up with are from the current ls2, however, I have a set of pref with almost no sharpenings on them, and they feel alot heavier than fusion, still. I don't have a scale but if I had to guess I'd say the pref is still 15% heavier than fusion. Fusion is freaking light.

[DarkStar50 679]

I took the sample TotalONE skate Fusion steel out of the holder. It is a 272. I picked up an LS2 263 steel. It is a smaller size but is noticeably heavier than the 272 Fusion. You can feel the difference in your hands easily.

[raganblink 82]

No he's talking about the pref steel from the vapor20. The one with the holes like how the e-pro steel (or whatever the hell they call it on the top end rbk/ccm skates) is.

[burrn 0]

No he's talking about the pref steel from the vapor20. The one with the holes like how the e-pro steel (or whatever the hell they call it on the top end rbk/ccm skates) is.

perf, not pref. No offence here :lol: