I need a composite blade that is...

[Theo 1]

I need a composite blade that is composite all the way through- if it exists? A quality one, if possible.

My problem is two-fold. I sometimes like to shape the blade somewhat with sand-paper and of course you can only go so much in areas before you hit the foam of the blade.

Also, once in a while I will play roller with the my ice stick (on a hard rubber surface) and it wears down the blade into the hollow middle part/foam.

A strange issue recently occured. I have been buying warrior sticks/blades for a while and my last AK27 blade lasted beautifully playing mostly ice and then some roller as well. Even when I retired it from the ice, I played with it on roller for as long as I could (until it was too worn down). But the middle of the blade always stayed intact for me. So, I get another one. I played with it on ice one time. On roller the next. Then the next game on ice I notice it splitting down the middle already near the heel, exposing the foam/innards already. 70 bucks for 3 times- that was my last straw. I am not saying I am in the right using it on that surface, but I expected better than that.

So the moral of the story is that I am looking for a dense composite blade. I don't care that weight will be sacrificed. I know performance may be as well, but I was wondering if I have any options. If I remember right, way back easton had the ultra-graphite, which I believe had the properties that I am currently looking for.

Thanks for the help

[rachael7 1]

Can't say as I know the answer to your question, but I will say that the blade on my Dolo DD has held up impressively, despite some very nasty and deep looking chips on the bottom edge.

[Chadd 916]

The original Fury blades were like that, haven't seen one since then.

[Buzz_LightBeer 975]

Anything that compromises the integrity of the composite blade, particularily the bottom will be trouble. Maybe try to locate some old V110 blades or Axioms or ever Montreals (CMC or CNC'i think)

[fatwabbit 93]

ABS blades???

[sickwilly 37]

Anything that compromises the integrity of the composite blade, particularily the bottom will be trouble. Maybe try to locate some old V110 blades or Axioms or ever Montreals (CMC or CNC'i think)

WHen I looked a couple of days ago hockeyworld.com has some of the Montreal CMC blades for like 20 bucks each.

[gxc999 7]

ABS blades???

That was my thought too...

[17D1998 1]

ABS blades won't really perform well on the ice, no?

[AIREAYE 248]

ABS blades won't really perform well on the ice, no?

absolutely not, they bend/torque too much

[Jarick 5]

Which blade specifically did you get? Was it an AK27 HD, DD, or the original?

Montreal M95 blades are awesome for durability if you can find one.

[sarasch 1]

For Inline I found that the CCM V07 Blade is a pretty good compromise between durability, performance and price.

But I don't know where/if they're availabe outside of europe.

[jimmy 194]

A few years ago there was a blade like that made by Parcrow. Solid all the way through, you could shave it or just wear it down. They lasted years.

[Scotty 8]

I see several solutions instead of blaming all of your problems on the blade:

-Stop sanding them down so much

-Buy a different stick to use for roller. It will be cheaper than continually replacing blades/sticks when using the same stick for both

-Use an ABS blade for roller

[Theo 1]

I appreciate the many responses, but after looking for some of the suggestions online, it seems I am out of luck overall. ABS blades are out of the question. But I looked for some of the other choices that you guys recommended and most are not made anymore, hard to find, or not in my pattern.

Scotty- I am not really blaming the blade for anything. I simply want a different kind of product- Sure, I should get a stick for roller, but I would still want a full out carbon/graphite/composite blade for roller as well. Using wood blades on the roller rink I use doesn't work too well as they splinter quickly. ABS are too flimsy, not a fan at all. Ideally, for ice I would have any given composite blade and for roller I would have a different stick with a full dense composite blade.

I still don't understand how my old AK27 blade was able to excel at both and wore down well but the new one lasted 1 time. I'll make sure both products are indeed the same exact blade. Only thing I can infer is that on the new ones, they have a much larger section where they hollowed out to increase lightness of the blade. I'll take a picture of each so you all don't think I am crazy.

[steelnation248 102]

I appreciate the many responses, but after looking for some of the suggestions online, it seems I am out of luck overall. ABS blades are out of the question. But I looked for some of the other choices that you guys recommended and most are not made anymore, hard to find, or not in my pattern.

Scotty- I am not really blaming the blade for anything. I simply want a different kind of product- Sure, I should get a stick for roller, but I would still want a full out carbon/graphite/composite blade for roller as well. Using wood blades on the roller rink I use doesn't work too well as they splinter quickly. ABS are too flimsy, not a fan at all. Ideally, for ice I would have any given composite blade and for roller I would have a different stick with a full dense composite blade.

I still don't understand how my old AK27 blade was able to excel at both and wore down well but the new one lasted 1 time. I'll make sure both products are indeed the same exact blade. Only thing I can infer is that on the new ones, they have a much larger section where they hollowed out to increase lightness of the blade. I'll take a picture of each so you all don't think I am crazy.

Couldn't you try applying something onto the blade that will wear down before the actual blade itself? I've heard of people putting epoxy on their wood blades for roller hockey. They have a forum about it here, including a step by step guide if you were to go with that method: using epoxy to extend the life of your blade?

[Theo 1]

Epoxy may be a good filler, actually, true.

Just wanted to get the picture up:

You can see...Both AK27 blades. Old one is worn down to pretty much 2" in height yet it still have inside integrity. The white stuff, whether it be some kind of graphite or even hard plastic, I have no idea). But that is exactly what I am looking for. Apparently, they decided not to do that with the new ones as evident by the picture.

I could actually still play with the blade that I have used probably 40 times between ice/roller....And the one that I played with 4 times in total is finished. Guess they don't make them like they used to :(

[notquitedeadyet 13]

What about a Sherwood RM7 blade? Anybody know if they are solid?

I got some by accident, they seemed like they were solid, so I told my son to use them in the garage for shooting practice. He recently wore out his last V110. So far so good, but it's only been a short time...

[fatwabbit 93]

Read the thread I did about the epoxy being added to the blade... I had some pics up as well as a how-to...

[tml67 0]

As suggested by another member, the CCM V110 would be a good choice. The inner blade is solid ABS. But I imagine these would be exetemely difficult to find nowadays. I've also used the Koho 2260 ABS in the past and find them to be solid blades, but a bit on the heavy side.

The blade on my prostock One95 held up pretty good. It was my main stick for ball hockey on hardwood surface for the past 9 months, playing twice per week. The bottom of the blade was completely worned to the foam and it was still solid. Had I not jammed it into the wall last week, I would probably still be using it today. Let's hope my One95 composite blade will last just as long as the blade on the prostock OPS.

[ekeating 0]

As suggested by another member, the CCM V110 would be a good choice. The inner blade is solid ABS. But I imagine these would be exetemely difficult to find nowadays. I've also used the Koho 2260 ABS in the past and find them to be solid blades, but a bit on the heavy side.

The blade on my prostock One95 held up pretty good. It was my main stick for ball hockey on hardwood surface for the past 9 months, playing twice per week. The bottom of the blade was completely worned to the foam and it was still solid. Had I not jammed it into the wall last week, I would probably still be using it today. Let's hope my One95 composite blade will last just as long as the blade on the prostock OPS.

I have an Easton Ultra lite Kevlar Z-Tac blade that seems pretty burly. I haven't used it, only taped it, does anyone know what the "guts" are in this?

[Scotty 8]

I have an Easton Ultra lite Kevlar Z-Tac blade that seems pretty burly. I haven't used it, only taped it, does anyone know what the "guts" are in this?

Foam. As many Easton blades have always been.

[Theo 1]

Hey folks...

I think I may have solved this, hopefully. Still waiting to hear back from a member here who would know for sure, but looking around I see there are, or were:

Warrior AK27 Double D STANDARD Sr. Replacement Blade '11 (Guess this is the 2nd lesser quality blade)

Warrior AK27 HD STANDARD Sr. Replacement Blade '09 (first blade that lasted forever)

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Unfortunately for me, it seems they have stopped making them (HD blade). But at least I know I'm not crazy anymore. Perhaps I can find some old ones on google or something.

For the life of me, I don't understand why a company wouldn't run with this concept or at the least market it as the ultimate roller hockey blade...Yes, the weight is a bit more, but I just see a much more consistent and durable blade that has more of a solid wood feel. What a shame

[mhkehoe 1]

Hey folks...

I think I may have solved this, hopefully. Still waiting to hear back from a member here who would know for sure, but looking around I see there are, or were:

Warrior AK27 Double D STANDARD Sr. Replacement Blade '11 (Guess this is the 2nd lesser quality blade)

Warrior AK27 HD STANDARD Sr. Replacement Blade '09 (first blade that lasted forever)

ad:

Unfortunately for me, it seems they have stopped making them (HD blade). But at least I know I'm not crazy anymore. Perhaps I can find some old ones on google or something.

For the life of me, I don't understand why a company wouldn't run with this concept or at the least market it as the ultimate roller hockey blade...Yes, the weight is a bit more, but I just see a much more consistent and durable blade that has more of a solid wood feel. What a shame

I am surprised you wear down your blades so much on a rubber roller surface. Is this over a long period of time? I've been playing indoor roller for a year with one stick, and I've only lost a bit off the stick (mostly just dulled the finish on the bottom of the blade.

[Theo 1]

I am surprised you wear down your blades so much on a rubber roller surface. Is this over a long period of time? I've been playing indoor roller for a year with one stick, and I've only lost a bit off the stick (mostly just dulled the finish on the bottom of the blade.

Yeah, it is not sportcourt- where I imagine a blade would last quite a long time (actually, the blade would probably snap before wearing down on real sports-court in a lot of cases). This is a mix of hard rubber and perhaps even asphalt. Most composites would probably last 2-3 months in that situation, playing 4 times a week. That Warrior though lasted forever since the core was throughout the blade.

Now you get any other given composite, and perhaps there is 1/8" of core on the bottom and the rest is dead space/foam

[caldakid 0]

Have you tried a one95 blade? I have this same problem, I've found one95/dolomites pretty decent for wear. I was also eyeing the easton ST, the blade looks like it would hold up on a roller surface.

I suspect you play the same surface as me? Pretty much just a ice rink with no ice?

I would also retape every game if you can.