2011-2012 Suspension thread

[BenderHockey 127]

There was obviouslly intent to have his 4th line out during that time in the game but flyers could have done something about it

B - If you dont want your top players been injured and you know that the opposing team is out to send a message do the same thing and send out your 4th line although it doesnt prevent a brawl.

Flyers were the away team. They had to put thier line on the ice first, and Bylsma put his 4th line out. He knew what he was doing.

[hockeymass 11]

Flyers were the away team. They had to put thier line on the ice first, and Bylsma put his 4th line out. He knew what he was doing.

This is pretty much the issue, Laviolette put his better guys out to kill off the late game push he expected and Bylsma basically said "nope, don't care about winning, send out the plugs and let's go headhunting" and Lavy couldn't do anything about it because of last change. Bush league. I don't like either team and thought they both gave as good as they got throughout the tilt but that was pretty lame.

It's going to be a good first round matchup, though.

[Chadd 916]

Three of the five guys on the ice for Pittsburgh had less than 10 minutes of ice time for the game, Asham finished with less than 5 minutes.

[wetwilly17 6]

Anybody who calls that a flop has objectivity issues where the Pens/Crosby are concerned.....especially when it comes after the whistle.  And yeah Philly just plays pure as the driven snow.

it wasn't a flop by the traditional definition, but crosby new exactly what he was doing.  after the whistle, crosby went it to bump one of the flyers and then skated off knowing some minor retaliation was coming.  the flyer kid shoves crosby from behind.  crosby knew it was coming but pretended nothing was going and turned his back just waiting for the shove.  he then got up expecting to draw a minor lol  i think the shove truly knocked crosby down as he wasn't looking and was not balanced well for a shove from behind, but he staged the whole thing

[Trooper 8]

Flyers won the faceoff, if they wanted to change they could have. Suspend Crosby for chirping at the coach? Half of both benches were yelling back and forth at coaches and each other. Mountain out of a mole hill.

[EBondo 233]

Lavy fined $10K, Granato $2500.

Craig Berube was just on Daily News Live on Comcast SportsNet talking about everything, and did not hold back at all when it came to Crosby and Malkin. I didn't get the exact quote, but he said "Crosby and Malkin are the dirtiest players on that team. They slash, hook, punch players in the face after the play, and then whine and cry to the officials when things don't go their way." He then went on to applaud Schenn for taking action on Crosby, because he felt Crosby deserved some retaliation for his numerous uncalled slashes over the course of the game. Couldn't. Agree. More.

[chippa13 1844]

Devil's advocate here but a lot of times in hockey the stars will resort to some dirtiness out of frustration for the game in game out guff that they take.

[EBondo 233]

Devil's advocate here but a lot of times in hockey the stars will resort to some dirtiness out of frustration for the game in game out guff that they take.

I feel like the Flyers have finally started to figure out a way to get Malkin/Crosby off their game. Get them angry, and they lose focus. They're nowhere near as effective when they're being pushed around, bumped into, things of that nature. Like you said, the stuff that they take causes them to get dirty themselves, and Malkin proved that the last time the Flyers-Pens played. He took an undisciplined penalty in the third period that if I remember correctly resulted in a PP goal for the Flyers.

[steelnation248 101]

Kyle Quincey got one game for his elbow to Kopecky yesterday. I thought he would have got about 3, to be honest. Especially considering how Ovie got 3 for a similar hit.

http://video.nhl.com...id=60&id=169441

[hockeymass 11]

Flyers won the faceoff, if they wanted to change they could have. Suspend Crosby for chirping at the coach? Half of both benches were yelling back and forth at coaches and each other. Mountain out of a mole hill.

Or Bylsma could not be a dick. It's a bush league move. Suspension-worthy? Not really, but pretty sad.

[that_guy 2]

Bylsma puts his guys out there so someone would hit Schenn, only trying to send a message to the other team that its not okay to cheap shot his players (whether sid "deserved" it or not I'm not getting into). Thats all that happened, then Lavi got pissed that one of his players got hit? Glad to see him get fined, could have injured someone with his little stick incident.

Bylsma could have only put them on the ice to prevent injury of stars such as not wanting Sid or Malkin to get in an altercation, but that seems less likely. To the above poster wetwilly Schenn did get assessed a minor penalty but since the Penguins had scored during the play, he did not have to serve it.

Briere out indefinitely with an upper body contusion for anyone who missed it.

And I do not have a problem with only one game for Quincey, however, I am not familiar with the Ovi hit you are referring to.

[Chadd 916]

Devil's advocate here but a lot of times in hockey the stars will resort to some dirtiness out of frustration for the game in game out guff that they take.

Sid was dishing out way more than he was taking in that game. If it was retaliation, it was also escalation.

[camhockey16 5]

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=625537

NHL fines Flyers' Laviolette, Penguins' Granato $10,000 and $2,500, respectively.

Also,

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=625519

Red Wings' Quincey suspended one game for this hit:

[noodle3872 40]

Sid was dishing out way more than he was taking in that game. If it was retaliation, it was also escalation.

On SportsCenter today, Crosby said he did more hacking than he's done a in a long time in that game. He also said the Flyers bring out the worst in him.

[trevor13478 1]

Bylsma puts his guys out there so someone would hit Schenn, only trying to send a message to the other team that its not okay to cheap shot his players (whether sid "deserved" it or not I'm not getting into). Thats all that happened, then Lavi got pissed that one of his players got hit? Glad to see him get fined, could have injured someone with his little stick incident.

Bylsma could have only put them on the ice to prevent injury of stars such as not wanting Sid or Malkin to get in an altercation, but that seems less likely. To the above poster wetwilly Schenn did get assessed a minor penalty but since the Penguins had scored during the play, he did not have to serve it.

Briere out indefinitely with an upper body contusion for anyone who missed it.

And I do not have a problem with only one game for Quincey, however, I am not familiar with the Ovi hit you are referring to.

speaking of that play, I didn't understand why Schenn's penalty got wiped out. Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure the penalty happened after the goal was scored, so it wasn't a delayed penalty. Didn't make sense to me but maybe I have the timing wrong. The way I remember it, the goal was scored, but play continued. When the play ended, Schenn cross-checked Crosby and a minor penalty was assessed, they went back and awarded the goal. If a penalty happens after a goal, that goal doesn't negate the penalty does it? What am I missing here?

[Chadd 916]

speaking of that play, I didn't understand why Schenn's penalty got wiped out. Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure the penalty happened after the goal was scored, so it wasn't a delayed penalty. Didn't make sense to me but maybe I have the timing wrong. The way I remember it, the goal was scored, but play continued. When the play ended, Schenn cross-checked Crosby and a minor penalty was assessed, they went back and awarded the goal. If a penalty happens after a goal, that goal doesn't negate the penalty does it? What am I missing here?

In the past, the penalty would stand. I don't know why it did not in this case. I said the same thing while I was watching the game.

[noodle3872 40]

If I'm understanding correctly, anything after the goal is wiped out if the goal wasn't acknowledged immediately (requiring review).

[Chadd 916]

If I'm understanding correctly, anything after the goal is wiped out if the goal wasn't acknowledged immediately (requiring review).

Nope, check the last paragraph on the page.

http://www.nhl.com/ice/page.htm?id=26489

[chippa13 1844]

Fraser's column on the TSN site covered that. He said that there was an expected icing whistle coming but that since Schenn's play occurred before the whistle stopped play then the penalty was wiped out by the goal.

[that_guy 2]

Correct me if I am wrong but I thought it did happen after the whistle when the players were skating to the bench?

[camhockey16 5]

Crosby addresses Milbury comments

http://www.nhl.com/ice/blogpost.htm?id=8165

I found it interesting that Milbury called the penguins to apologize - people will probably guess that gary bettman told him to or something along those lines..

[Trooper 8]

Crosby addresses Milbury comments

http://www.nhl.com/ice/blogpost.htm?id=8165

I found it interesting that Milbury called the penguins to apologize - people will probably guess that gary bettman told him to or something along those lines..

Most likely NBC.

[camhockey16 5]

i don't know if this would even get looked at because it looks like it is shoulder to shoulder - but i'm sure gunnarsson would like shanaban to look at it

[chippa13 1844]

I think Shanahan has already established that those hits are fine.

[camhockey16 5]

im sure toronto fans will say "but his helmet came off, see it was a blindside headshot"

even though it is gunnarsson's fault for not having a tight helmet strap