Blade Pattern Origins

[Chadd 916]

Is the Darby closer to the P27 or P89? Any pictures?

Darby is a TPS P27. For Bauer, I believe the P89 is the same.

[the_game 452]

Darby is a TPS P27. For Bauer, I believe the P89 is the same.

Easton Darby = P89.

In terms of 'origins', I remember back in the 90's Bauer had the 'Bure' pattern which I think is todays P10/Shanahan.

Bauer also had the Clark which is the P71 and the Linden which is todays P106.

Sher-Wood also had a 'Clark' pattern in the early 90s that was nothing like the later Bauer version.

Also of note, the Warrior Weight/Vanek (which is also the P89/Darby) was listed as the 'Mogilny' pattern in the early 2000's on Innovatives. Again, in the early 90's Sher-Wood produced a Mogilny pattern that was nothing like the Innovative curve.

I don't think anyone can really say where these curves originate from (exception, Drury/Yzerman Pro), but we can say that the manufacturers choose certain stars to represent certain curves. And yes, I remember curves from the early 90's and I am old.

[mack 44]

The original Sakic retail was a much different pattern. It was a long, mild mid curve with just a hint of loft. Think of a Darby/P27/P89/Vanek with less loft. Not sure how close that was to his pro pattern. I had some old wood retail Kariya blades that were very similar to the KP, not sure if that was intentional or accidental.

I know this is an older quote, but wasn't the current Sakic/Hall originally what the old Tkaczuk? Or maybe it was the Zhamnov. I remember a Zubrus pattern that I thought was sort of a small toe.

[Jason 65]

Wow! I bumped this thread in attempt to get something interesting going. Thanks a lot guys. This is what I was hoping for. It seems that at least a handful of the retail patterns out there have pro origins. I figured as much, but had little to no evidence. I'm going to talk about this in another topic, but I talked to our local Sher-wood rep today and he said that their new Smith pattern is supposed to be modeled on the Ovechkin pro. It sure looks different to me. I forgot to ask him about who "Smith" is.

[Chadd 916]

I know this is an older quote, but wasn't the current Sakic/Hall originally what the old Tkaczuk? Or maybe it was the Zhamnov. I remember a Zubrus pattern that I thought was sort of a small toe.

I only recall that Tkczuk was a deep curve, thought that became Yzerman but it could have turned into the Sakic. I remember the Zhamnov and Zurbus curves, but I thought Zhamnov was more modano-ish. I could easily be wrong on any of that, I haven't seen those curves in forever.

[Karly14 21]

I only recall that Tkczuk was a deep curve, thought that became Yzerman but it could have turned into the Sakic. I remember the Zhamnov and Zurbus curves, but I thought Zhamnov was more modano-ish. I could easily be wrong on any of that, I haven't seen those curves in forever.

Chadd, you're right about Tkaczuk - it did become the Yzerman. I still have an old Ultra Lite Tkzachuk blade lying around. From what I remember, the Zubrus pattern was a long blade, mild, slightly open, mid-toe curve. I use to use the Fleury pattern from Titan. I remember thinking the Zubrus was similar.

[Jason 65]

The Zubrus sounds like a nice curve.

[Buzz_LightBeer 969]

Or maybe it was the Zhamnov.

Zhamnov was a short blade, mid curve with a tapered toe, like a Kovy pro

[Chadd 916]

Zhamnov was a short blade, mid curve with a tapered toe, like a Kovy pro

I thought it was pretty mild, but it's hard to remember.

[the_game 452]

I thought it was pretty mild, but it's hard to remember.

Wasn't the Zhamnov at one point the Kariya? Short Blade, mid curve with a tapered toe sounds like the Kariya easton made at retail.

The Zubrus was a thing of beauty, great blade & curve, squared toe, thinner in the heel then wider at the toe. I don't remember the Zubrus having a toe curve though, I remember it as slight open heel curve. I actually think I might have a Zubrus kicking around somewhere, gonna have to try to dig it up.

[Chadd 916]

I thought the Kariya became the original Sakic but it has been too long

[Justin Liedloff 13]

Darby is a TPS P27. For Bauer, I believe the P89 is the same.

Here's a comparison of a Vanek/Weight (Warrior) and a P89 (Bauer):

I don't have a Darby or P27 to compare it to though.

EDIT: I accidentally typed "P90" instead of "P89". My bad.

[Jason 65]

They look really close. What's a P90?

[mack 44]

All of this talk of old patterns makes me miss the Easton Ciccarelli/Thornton. Still one of the best curves ever made, square toe and all.

[chippa13 1844]

I thought the Kariya became the original Sakic but it has been too long

I believe the progression went Kariya - Zhamnov - Sakic. The Zhamnov name was short-lived. I was a huge fan of the Kariya curve on the Lami blades, especially the ones that they screwed up on a little and had more mid curve.

Speaking of other old Easton curves, I could blast cannons with the Juneau pattern, the Modano II wasn't quite the same. That was before I mellowed out into the gentler mid curves.

[Chadd 916]

All of this talk of old patterns makes me miss the Easton Ciccarelli/Thornton. Still one of the best curves ever made, square toe and all.

I still have one with a cracked hosel in my box o' blades.

[Cavs019 708]

This thread makes me wish we had a time machine. Was the old Easton Leetch the predecessor to the current Lidstrom/Getzlaf? I remember having one of the old hickory colored Easton "pro" wood blades paired up with the 1st gen brown Ultralite and being able to get off an absolute missile with the thing. For whatever reason the old range of patterns (Kariya, Leetch, Thornton, Original Sakic) were WAY more usable than the current offerings.

[Chadd 916]

Yes, Leetch was the precursor to the Lidstrom/Getzlaf. It was slightly more rounded and deeper, Less of a wedge. Not a huge difference, but enough to make a difference for me. I put my first wrist shot with that curve into the net, the net above the glass.

[team50 20]

My favourite was the Easton Roenick. Not sure what its predecessor was or what became of it, if anything.

[Justin Liedloff 13]

They look really close. What's a P90?

OOPS! I meant to type P89, not P90. Thanks for pointing that out.

It is difficult to tell, because the Warrior is glossy, and the Bauer is matte, but they are virtually identical.

[Scotty 8]

I believe the progression went Kariya - Zhamnov - Sakic. The Zhamnov name was short-lived.

To my knowledge, that's correct. I started using the curve when it was still Kariya, then discovered quickly that the name change to Zhamnov meant nothing before it turned to the original Sakic. Very straight blade, even a slight bit less curve and loft than the Modano/Forsberg/Zetterberg that replaced it (guess it's now the new Cammalleri).

[mack 44]

Yes, Leetch was the precursor to the Lidstrom/Getzlaf. It was slightly more rounded and deeper, Less of a wedge. Not a huge difference, but enough to make a difference for me. I put my first wrist shot with that curve into the net, the net above the glass.

In their first runs of shafts they had a Leetch that was a slighter Ciccarelli. It was awesome-looking but only came in LH.

[Buzz_LightBeer 969]

[Slapsht25 0]

http://i1060.photobu...pg?t=1338681544

very nice

[the_game 452]

Yes, Leetch was the precursor to the Lidstrom/Getzlaf. It was slightly more rounded and deeper, Less of a wedge. Not a huge difference, but enough to make a difference for me. I put my first wrist shot with that curve into the net, the net above the glass.

Thank You Chadd, I remember the Leetch not being the same as the current Listrom/Getzlaf offering. I used the old Leetch T-Flex blades, but that was only after heating them up and stepping on them to flatten them out quite a bit. I also remember my original Easton T-Flex Graphite came with a Roenick blade and I want to say that it was actually pretty close to the 'Styles' Pattern Easton that Roenick used but am no 100% sure on that.

After all this discussion, kinda wish Easton would release the history of their retail blade patterns or something.