Starting in Goal as an Adult

[tedpenguins 93]

Really appreciate the feedback @IPv6Freely !  I really do need to get a suction cup mount, just haven't go around to doing it yet; it's always way easier to buy a new stick or something instead 

[tedpenguins 93]

Here's the game from last night. This is the lowest league that I play on and the competition always seems to vary. The team that I play on has decent defense but our offense is atrocious, so getting about 10 shots on goal for our team is normally pretty hard to do. It helps keep the score relatively low and the puck in our zone a lot so I typically face about 20-30 shots within a 45 minute game.

 

Unfortunately I forgot to delete past footage on my SD card so I only managed to catch the 1st period on the GoPro. Period ended up 1-0 in favor of the other team. The shot was originally going wide until it hit my defenseman's glove and ended up going post and in. End of the night it was 3-0; one five hole goal and the other was another flukey goal that somehow got loose from where it was wedged between my arm and CA.   

 

[Hills 712]

Hopefully people are still enjoying these, I think this game has a lot of "Don't do this" examples of plays. Since these links are pretty internet and computer intensive I didn't make them load instantly so you'll have to actually click them to see them first. Part in do so I don't slow the website down and part that I couldn't actually make the post without crashing my computer... Anyways let me know if you want to see these to be continued.

 

I think I played decent in this one but I was a bit shaky from not playing for a month, I don't think it really showed but I always felt a bit off when getting ready for a shot. Unfortunately my team ended up losing 2-0.

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A weird bounce left the puck going right to an opponent left out front. Luckily he just picked up his stick and wasn't able to get a great shot off. But I did a pretty decent job of sliding out to challenge and take down the angle and made a decent save. The reason I went down first was because I was unaware if there was someone right at the top of the crease, meaning I didn't do a good enough job of checking my surroundings. I saw there was no instant shot and got up to challenge the shooter more aggressively.

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This started out as a fairly straight forward shot that I placed into the corner, but the following part shows where my shakiness was. I go to push back into the post to play a reverse-VH since I saw the opponent was going to beat my player to the puck and the chance for a shot back at me or to the low circle was pretty high. My positioning was a bit off and when I pushed backwards to the post my skate was already touching it when I really wanted my leg to be inside the post so my shoulder and upper body would be completely covering the top half. I didn't feel like I had time to adjust to it properly and when my body turned more towards the corner I was still caught off guard as to where my right foot was actually placed. Because of my now aggressive angle into the corner I tried to break up any back door pass as I'd be beat really badly if that made it through. The player did end up throwing it back towards the net and his teammate made a nice tip to direct it on net. This now shows how awkward this play was since I played the original direction of the puck my blocker comes off of my pad and leaves a gap, but luckily the puck hits the outside roll and drops down next to me. I wasn't sure where the puck was so I tried to cover the post as much as possible and again the odd angle made this difficult, so I drop down to my butt just to try and get in the way of it to get a whistle. If I managed to get my leg inside the post this tip would've simply ended up hitting my pants and making for a much easier save.

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The beginning of this play should show off some more awkwardness, I couldn't really see where the puck was coming from or if it was going to be tipped and I wasn't confident in my angle either, so you see my legs and feet do a strange nervous dance to try and cover up the post for a tip. Once the puck goes behind the net I get situated better and cover the opposite post well in a reverse-VH. I take a bit too long to get up as I was nervous about a tip from in front on a quick shot, but once I see the puck moving into the slot towards the attacking defensive player I get up and try to get square, I didn't get to come out as far as I'd like but I was able to make the save. Lately I've been having a real hard time corralling rebounds when they are placed directly 5-hole and that is evidently here. I make the initial save but the puck bounces out far enough that I cannot pounce on it, but I manage to puck it slightly further away for my defense to clear it out. He did a good job of tying that players stick up for the rebound.

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I challenged enough on this angle to take away most shots and I knew there was a player coming from the opposite side for a rebound or a backdoor pass so I didn't want to be too outside the crease. The only real shot the player had to score was a perfect shot into the corners. He should've gone blocker or low pad in hopes that the charging forward would've been able to pick up the rebound. But luckily for me he tries to pick the low glove corner and I get my pad on it.

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Even with the decent rebound control in the previous save the opposing team manages to keep control of the puck. A shot from the point that I should've easily been able to catch shows off another one of my struggles of late... catching the puck. I didn't follow it well enough into my glove and it manages to hit everything my the pocket and bounces out for a dangerous rebound. Luckily the bouncing puck makes its way out of danger in front of the net.

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Here is more evidence of me feeling rusty and off. I go down too early here before the puck is shot since I was worried about a quick release catching me in transition and moving to my right, I wanted to ensure if a shot came I'd make the save here and not let in a weak goal. While going down allowed me to make the save the shot was placed in a good position back from where I was coming from, making me throw my left leg out in desperation trying to get a piece of the puck... which causes a huge and very dangerous rebound out into the slot that would've left a wide open net for an opposing player. But lucky for me only my team was there. The moment it hit my pad I had an "Oh crap..." moment (but with more expletives) and instantly knew I made a mistake.

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I played with and against this player player a lot before, his name is Steve, and he has scored bar down on me multiple times... I just tried to get my body up as high as possible when I saw the shot release and I did a pretty good job of that. Thank you to my Brown chest for ensuring I didn't feel a thing.

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I knew there was a challenging player (it was Steve) coming in from my right side so I tried to push this shot wider by getting my stick on it and push it away from him... I completely miss it and knew I had to get square for an attempted shot, Steve likes to shot from anywhere and often scores doing so. I got into a blocking butterfly and made the save with the inside of my blocker. Because of my positioning I didn't feel having my stick covering my 5-hole was necessary as I knew my pad's thigh rise would cover up any angle he had down there, and my stick would be able to block a pass coming out front.

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Right after the previous save the puck was shot around to their defense and they take a shot with relatively no traffic in front. This play shows off again my difficulties corralling shots to my 5-hole that I make a stick save with. This one pops up and away from the immediate danger and my defense is able to break out.

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I am not sure if I was really off my angle here or if this was a really well placed shot, but I had to stretch my right leg out to make a save which led to another juicy rebound in the slot...that I was lucky no opponents were in range to pick it up.

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I was really upset with this goal, as I am pretty sure I played it almost perfectly. I knew the player couldn't cut to the middle with how outstretched he was trying to just get the shot off and with the back pressure from my defense. I also covered up down low and got square to the shot while not really giving much room. The only thing I didn't do was have my body weight leaning forward and my stick to the left of my 5-hole. My stick was directly between my pads when the puck went in, but this puck was shoved under my left pads thigh rise. I believe the problem here was because I had too much weight towards my heels, you can see my compress downwards but my upper body isn't straight up over my knees and this caused the thigh rise on my pads to leave a bit of space between them and the ice. With how tiny thigh rises are now in pads I have felt for a while they are getting so thin that it is harder to keep them flush to the ice, and this isn't the first time I had a puck squeak under these ones.

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Passes from behind the net coming from the side they started are becoming more and more common thanks to some highlight reel plays by Washington Capitals forward Evgeny Kuznetsov. I've been burned by it a few times last year so I was looking out for it this time as well. I am not sure why I dropped right away when it was passed to the right dot, I believe it was just instinct since I didn't know where the opponents were located on that side. Being already down I slide to the post to cover short side and push out to try to be more aggressive when Steve fakes me out with a shot. Luckily he doesn't have full control and isn't able to raise it over my right pad in my desperation save attempt. He makes a cheeky pass over my leg out to the front of the net and my stick gets caught up in my defense's legs and then stick and I get twisted looking the completely opposite direction of the puck. Luckily they can't get a shot off into the empty net thanks to the defense battling.

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After the previous mad scramble a pass to the point leaves the defense to take a relatively straight forward shot at me without traffic. I challenged well at the top of my crease and was ready for the shot. I attempt to trap the puck in my body and glove (lack of glove confidence made me not try and simply catch it) but the puck hit my dangler and created the awkward rebound. I way a possible shot coming from the right so I tried to cover as much of the net as possible and that meant stretching with my toe up which again leaves me sitting on my pants completely out of position. Luckily the defense does a good job of not allow a shot through and clears the zone.

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Great play by the opposing defense to keep this puck in play. A double deflection off of my players leg and then off the toe of the player in front really didn't leave me with many options. I never actually saw the shot be released because of my player and really wished he just stayed down low and attempted to deal with a possible rebound. I also believe this was a good goal, the player moved his skate after it hit him. Since I couldn't see the shot release I tried to get as wide as possible, once I saw the deflection I tried to get my left leg on the shot but was too slow and not stretched far enough.

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This was the best save I made all night. I was a bit late sliding over and if the player released the puck right away they probably would've scored. They still got a pretty good shot off and got it high and close to the corner, but by that time I slid over and was square to the puck and was able to get a shoulder on it. I prefer to drop down and slide across than to t-push over as that way I can still make a pad save if I am not all the way over and I find making a save in transition with the t-push is more difficult. But I was clearly slow here and if I had better skating abilities standing up and moving over would've been the correct play.

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Here is Steve again, I actually figured he'd drive towards the net more, but they were up 2-0 so it could be more of preserving the lead now. I do a good job challenging and am outside of my crease to cut the angle down, usually he shoots for high corners and he caught me off guard a bit and went 5-hole. I felt rusty here and though this went through my legs but was simply caught up in my pants.

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Here is why I try not to play the puck... I wanted the player to stay on his forehand and thus come to my left so I could simply pass the puck off to him. I went to my backhand because of this so I could simply slide it to him, but him going to the right completely threw me off and I panicked and tried a hard backhand shovel to my next teammate. As you can see I failed at it miserably and left myself in a bad position and a giveaway. Luckily I was able to get square and find my post before they could get a shot off. Also, I looked back at my post because I really had no idea where I was, and if the player shot then it would've most likely gone in.

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I stayed down way too long for this play and left it in just to show a "what not to do."

 

 

[IPv6Freely 2092]

43 minutes ago, Hills said:

Hopefully people are still enjoying these, I think this game has a lot of "Don't do this" examples of plays. Since these links are pretty internet and computer intensive I didn't make them load instantly so you'll have to actually click them to see them first. Part in do so I don't slow the website down and part that I couldn't actually make the post without crashing my computer... Anyways let me know if you want to see these to be continued.

100% yes keep doing them. Unfortunately I can't really watch at work AND I actually leave my laptop at work through the week these days it doesn't leave me much "screwing around on the internet" time. I guess that's a good thing. I'm still getting used to working a normal 8-5 M-F job. 

That said, I love your posts, especially a breakdown of mistakes. It's always good to know what was going through your head at the time, even if the answer is simply "mis-read, went down early" or whatever. 

What do you use to edit your videos, and also what do you use to export GIFs? I love the URLs gfycat assigns! "LonelyAgreeableCaterpillar" ... ROFL.

You're right on the slow loading, too. I had considered editing your older posts to add a SPOILER tag around them so they aren't loaded immediately. I think that would work fine, if you chose to go that route in the future. 

 

[IPv6Freely 2092]

On 8/6/2016 at 8:46 AM, tedpenguins said:

Here's the game from last night. This is the lowest league that I play on and the competition always seems to vary. The team that I play on has decent defense but our offense is atrocious, so getting about 10 shots on goal for our team is normally pretty hard to do. It helps keep the score relatively low and the puck in our zone a lot so I typically face about 20-30 shots within a 45 minute game.

 

Unfortunately I forgot to delete past footage on my SD card so I only managed to catch the 1st period on the GoPro. Period ended up 1-0 in favor of the other team. The shot was originally going wide until it hit my defenseman's glove and ended up going post and in. End of the night it was 3-0; one five hole goal and the other was another flukey goal that somehow got loose from where it was wedged between my arm and CA.   

 

First, you guys have fantastic jerseys.

You're looking damn good. A whole hell of a lot better than I was by that point. Fairly smooth movements for your level. Keep at it! 

One thing to consider... edit the play down a touch more. A few too many "nothing is happening" moments. Of course this would be helped with the higher up camera angle, if the idea is to let the viewer see the play develop. Yes, I'm again suggesting the suction cup mount! ;) haha

Keep at it. You're doing great! 

[Hills 712]

38 minutes ago, IPv6Freely said:

100% yes keep doing them. Unfortunately I can't really watch at work AND I actually leave my laptop at work through the week these days it doesn't leave me much "screwing around on the internet" time. I guess that's a good thing. I'm still getting used to working a normal 8-5 M-F job. 

That said, I love your posts, especially a breakdown of mistakes. It's always good to know what was going through your head at the time, even if the answer is simply "mis-read, went down early" or whatever. 

What do you use to edit your videos, and also what do you use to export GIFs? I love the URLs gfycat assigns! "LonelyAgreeableCaterpillar" ... ROFL.

You're right on the slow loading, too. I had considered editing your older posts to add a SPOILER tag around them so they aren't loaded immediately. I think that would work fine, if you chose to go that route in the future. 

 

Thanks for the feedback. I think I'll just upload them this way from now on. Makes them less easy to digest in terms of seeing the play and reading the comment, but makes it WAY easier to load and post.

 

As for editing, I edit in Premiere, and for the gfycat I just put my Youtube link into their site to use the upload feature. It is pretty hand and easy to do that way.

[bunnyman666 445]

@Hills The videos are great. I have also come up with a few band name ideas from the names of the videos (e.g. LavishWeirdAss). 

[bunnyman666 445]

Monday Stick and Puck:

 

Play was meh. My warm ups were mainly groin-pulling dekes. Could not track the puck AT ALL.

I have decided that I absolutely freakin' HATE when people scrimmage wearing t-shirts and shorts. First of all, I have no freakin' clue who is on what team. Second, I feel a bit hand-cuffed, as if you go through my crease, normally you end up on your bottom, or you're hooked or slashed. I'm not going to do that with kids in T-shirts and shorts. 

Maybe I'm not on my game with the upcoming changes. After all, I am going so far outside of my comfort zone with the possible new job. Wednesday should be better, I hope.

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So physical therapy is on hold because my insurance can't get its shit together.  (story of my life).  This is not so good, because something went wonky in my right knee during physical therapy, but that seems an acute matter, and on the other hand (leg) the left knee is significantly better.  And I have exercises to work on in the meantime.  (I think one of those patella straps will help with the right, it feels like that sort of thing.) 

I went to stick practice at Nearest Rink today.  It's usually very quiet - I suspect it's not heavily advertised and no one thinks of a private school's rink as a place where open hockey will be held.  Anyway, it was two hours, and the first half-hour or so I was by myself, stretching, skating, and doing assorted angling drills.  Which is super boring, in case you were wondering.  But then!  A dad and two kids showed up.

Me: *scurrying to put a net in place* *omg, friends, they will shoot pucks at me, yay!*

But then he made his kids do skating drills for an hour at the other end of the ice.  Ugh. 

But two other dads and their respective kids showed up so I did face some shots.  The youngest kid seemed to be the only one aware of proper etiquette (one person shooting at a time, wait for the puck to clear, do not shoot at a goalie that is not ready) so go small fry.  Not good shots from the kid, um, but well, hey, I'll take what I can get.  The ice time will have to do to keep the rust off for the tournament, which is next weekend.  (in the meantime, I am working, and the only other chance to play any hockey before the tournament is this upcoming Wednesday.)

Ice packs for crispy joints, ice time to mitigate the fact that it is obscenely hot and humid here.

[tedpenguins 93]

Here's the next video. Ended up losing 4-1; should have been 3-1 but my team does not pay attention at all. I've told them in the past that if we are down by 2 I'll be coming off at 2 minutes and if down by 1 off at 1:30. I repeatedly smack my stick on the ice as I get off too just so they know exactly what I'm doing. No one decided to jump on and instead stare at everyone else on the bench which allowed the opposing team to have a clear shot from the blue line. First goal was a good shot but after watching the footage I can see that as I dropped my angle moved just slightly which left the corner open. Second goal was a deflection in front that sent the puck to a wide open winger on my far post who tapped it in (not on camera). Third goal was a breakaway from a player that has no business being in this league and who repeatedly fired perfect slapshots from the point all night. I'm only able to get the 1st and 3rd periods just because our refs just give us enough time to get to the opposite net before they start the next period. I didn't face as many shots in this game but the quality of those shots were pretty good. Possession was split evenly but we were only getting one-and-done chances.

 

[Hills 712]

Here's the next analysis. I had a shaky game so there was again a lot I wasn't happy with.

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This was a rough game as well and a really bad start... I felt shaky and didn't have a lot of confidence.

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This was right off the opening face off and not a good way to get settled in the game. I got lucky here and actually over slid to the left from the fresh ice, the puck does actually hit my stick and bad but because I wasn't square I needed the post to bail me out.

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The last couple of games I was having trouble with my glove hand, and playing twice a month doesn't help either. This one I completely whiffed on a really easy shot and within 5 minutes the team is down by 1.

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While this goal wasn't completely my fault there were a bunch of things I did poorly and didn't help my cause. The first being I committed to the reverseVH (RVH from now on) too early which exposed the player out front since I was had too much weight on my right foot and didn't push of properly to the front of my net. I initially went into the RVH here because after the quick first goal I wanted to ensure I didn't let in a weak short side or post goal and wanted the player at the dot to have nothing to shoot at. I tried to make a desperation save when the player directly in front shot it which in turn pulls me off the post for the backdoor tip in. In hindsight I should have kept my right leg on the post and I probably would of got the back door save, but my inflexibility hurt here and I was trying to get my stick down and my body down to block it.

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This was just a decent slide from my left to right, and I wanted something positive to be in this video!

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I thought this was some decent cross crease movement and shows me battling through a screen (which becomes important later on). I went down from behind the net quickly because of the backdoor pass earlier, I wasn't positive where the opponents were in front of the net so I wanted to cover low for a precaution in case they slipped a puck out to someone for a quick bang in play. The correct play when the puck was moved to the point was to come out and challenge, but with my player and an opponent right next to me I didn't want to risk being in transition when the puck was shot or possibly tipped. I did do a decent job of pushing off of the post and challenging a bit while still on me knees. I did let up a pretty garbage rebound that was put over the net, but I was completely screened and had no idea where the puck was. I tried to get big and cover as much of the net as possible and you should be able to see this when I shrug my shoulders.

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Here is another play that was a direct result of me feeling shaky. I again wanted to ensure nothing short side went in so I slide into the shot covering all the post side. This is dangerous as a shot low glove would create a huge rebound in front of the net and an example of this happens later on in the game.

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Once again another play where I wanted to ensure I just made the save. The RVH here wasn't really necessary and if I dropped into the butterfly while staying square to the shot I probably would've eaten up the rebound with my pants. This save gives up a big rebound in the slot but the opposition can only get a weak backhand off that goes wide. Decent job by defense tying him up and I did an decent job of getting up and ready for the next shot. Ideally I should've been at the top of the crease though.

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Again here I am battling through screens. I go down with a guess as to where the puck is going to end up as I saw the original shot but lost the puck when I moved towards the direction it was going. The puck gets stopped on the way and I managed to track it to an opponents stick who gets off a pretty quick shot. My left leg was already in decent position and I end up making a decent save. While I wasn't perfectly square to the shot and the top corner was open, my glove stayed in a decent spot and covered the area directly above my pad as well.

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I tried to say more square with this play and not drop to early into the RVH like before. I do a decent job and a shot into short side post is handled with a butterfly but the rebound goes right back to the player who took the shot. Last time I played this ended up being a rebound goal so I tried to get myself covering the post as much possible which puts me off balance and makes for an awkward position as I try to slide back across the net as the player goes behind. I suppose I could've gotten into a VH for the recovery as I don't believe I would've stopped a quick wrap around, but I am not really sure. If you have ideas please let me know.

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I am actually pretty unhappy with this save. This was the shooter who scored the first goal and I was worried he was going to do the same here, I get just a bit of my blocker on it and I really felt like I barely fought it off. He also had a strange shot that I felt dipped or always felt like it was off speed and I struggled with it.

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This was a much more dangerous play that it looked and really could've put the game away if we went down 3 in the first period. I knew there was a player charging the net so I tried to get in a fairly square and large butterfly, but I wasn't able to cover high on the short side and if this was tipped a few inches towards the net it would've ended up as a fantastic glove save or a very nice goal.

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Fighting screens was something I was doing a lot of this game. I never actually saw this shot released and thought I was on a decent angle so dropped and tried to cover all holes in tight. The shot managed to hit my blocker and get deflected into a corner and was a good and lucky save made by good positioning.

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This play started on a failed breakout off of a face off, so the opposing team was never deep enough to really cause me any trouble. I was able to challenge a good amount and the shot was a relatively poorly aimed one that I was able to absorb and cover with no rebound.

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This is one of those plays that could be argued that a poke check would've stopped a dangerous play from happening. I felt like the pass was far enough from my stick that if I lunged to block it I would've been too far out of position if I missed. Since I am not very good at poke checks I generally decide to stay passive in these situations and try to cover the net on the shots in front. I did a decent job of covering low but my defense ended up blocking the shot.

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I mentioned earlier that when I try to cover all of short side a shot to the low far side is very dangerous for a rebound... and here is a great example of that. I overplay high blocker which leaves me sliding away from the shot and creating a dangerous rebound off of my toe. I attempt to corral it but my teammate actually knocks it away from me but luckily it bounces away from their attacking forward as well.

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On this 2-on-1 I figured the shooter was going to shoot low blocker and go for the garbage rebound since this team has been pretty unselfish so far. My defense did a good job in protecting this and the shooter looked like he wanted to score high blocker, which I got a chunk of on the thumb part and the rebound bounced over his stick.

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Here is another screen I had to fight through, and lost. I didn't know who the pass was to on the backhand because my defense was directly in my line of sight to the trailing player the whole time. I also had 3 people directly in the way of the shot which was a perfectly place slap shot right inside the post. I tried to cover as much of the angle as possible but it wasn't enough. If I had any idea where the trailing player was coming from I might have challenged sooner. I saw the shooter come across the blue line but lost track of him once the initial puck carrier went to his backhand.

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There wasn't much for me to do in the third period, this play happened after I tried to go to the bench for an extra attacker and had to skate back from a turnover. I am a poor puck handler and this is another example, I tied to chip the puck off the boards to my teammate to try and keep the play going because we were running out of time.

Edited August 15, 2016 by Hills

[Hills 712]

On 8/13/2016 at 10:06 AM, tedpenguins said:

Here's the next video. Ended up losing 4-1; should have been 3-1 but my team does not pay attention at all. I've told them in the past that if we are down by 2 I'll be coming off at 2 minutes and if down by 1 off at 1:30. I repeatedly smack my stick on the ice as I get off too just so they know exactly what I'm doing. No one decided to jump on and instead stare at everyone else on the bench which allowed the opposing team to have a clear shot from the blue line. First goal was a good shot but after watching the footage I can see that as I dropped my angle moved just slightly which left the corner open. Second goal was a deflection in front that sent the puck to a wide open winger on my far post who tapped it in (not on camera). Third goal was a breakaway from a player that has no business being in this league and who repeatedly fired perfect slapshots from the point all night. I'm only able to get the 1st and 3rd periods just because our refs just give us enough time to get to the opposite net before they start the next period. I didn't face as many shots in this game but the quality of those shots were pretty good. Possession was split evenly but we were only getting one-and-done chances.

Snipping video

Good job on cutting down the footage. It is much easier to watch this way!

You almost had that breakaway, and you looked pretty solid in that game. I'd also suggest like @IPv6Freely did to grab a suction cup mount, makes it easier to see the play and allows you to move it to the other end in between periods.

Are you looking at tips or suggestions? I can't remember if you said you were and before I say anything I figured I'd ask.

[IPv6Freely 2092]

3 minutes ago, Hills said:

Are you looking at tips or suggestions? I can't remember if you said you were and before I say anything I figured I'd ask.

In THIS thread, everything is welcome. I would hope that people wouldn't be posting here if they didn't want to learn :)

[psulion22 402]

On 8/13/2016 at 10:06 AM, tedpenguins said:

Here's the next video. Ended up losing 4-1; should have been 3-1 but my team does not pay attention at all. I've told them in the past that if we are down by 2 I'll be coming off at 2 minutes and if down by 1 off at 1:30. I repeatedly smack my stick on the ice as I get off too just so they know exactly what I'm doing. No one decided to jump on and instead stare at everyone else on the bench which allowed the opposing team to have a clear shot from the blue line. First goal was a good shot but after watching the footage I can see that as I dropped my angle moved just slightly which left the corner open. Second goal was a deflection in front that sent the puck to a wide open winger on my far post who tapped it in (not on camera). Third goal was a breakaway from a player that has no business being in this league and who repeatedly fired perfect slapshots from the point all night. I'm only able to get the 1st and 3rd periods just because our refs just give us enough time to get to the opposite net before they start the next period. I didn't face as many shots in this game but the quality of those shots were pretty good. Possession was split evenly but we were only getting one-and-done chances.

 

Looks pretty good.  Really good crease movements, and good post integration. I'd rather go full RVH (you're doing RVH on your blocker side, and VH on your glove), but having a plan and technique is more important than focusing on just one.  Without a suction cup mount, some things do get lost and perspective is difficult.  But from what I'm seeing, you tend to retreat into the net when you don't need to.  Stay out at the top of your crease unless there's a play to the side.  I only saw you get up using your left foot.  On the few plays where the play went from your right to left, you pushed to slide across when regaining your stance may have been the better option.  So instead of getting up with your right foot, which is the direction of play, you just push.  It's a hard habit to break.  I did it by forcing myself to usre the correct leg whenever I got up, that meant on stoppages and plays where a shot wasn't imminent.  And maybe try to stay a little more quiet and centered.  You're a little all over the place, which is putting you out of position.

 

All in all it looks good.  Keep up the good work.  You almost got that breakaway.

[tedpenguins 93]

On 8/15/2016 at 0:14 PM, Hills said:

Good job on cutting down the footage. It is much easier to watch this way!

You almost had that breakaway, and you looked pretty solid in that game. I'd also suggest like @IPv6Freely did to grab a suction cup mount, makes it easier to see the play and allows you to move it to the other end in between periods.

Are you looking at tips or suggestions? I can't remember if you said you were and before I say anything I figured I'd ask.

Any tips or suggestions would be much appreciated! I can pick out some things on my own but finer details I tend to overlook. I might see about getting a suction cup mount tomorrow.

[psulion22 402]

So, I guess my try out went well.  

 

We won the championship last night, over our rivals that had beaten my team in the final in a shootout two seasons ago.  3-1 final score, and I played one of the best games I ever have, and certainly the best of this season.  From the start of warmups, I felt good.  We scored early, and then I kept us in it after that.  Saves through traffic and on deflections, I stopped a 2 on 1, and like 2 pass outs from behind the net.  I've finally gotten comfortable in the RVH, and it's really improved my game down low.  We scored another in the first, and it ended 2-0.  The second period was more of the same, and we scored another.  Their goalie was really good that period also, it could have easily been a 6-3 game.  But the second ended 3-0.  My team clamped down on defense in the third, and I wasn't quite as busy.  Though I still had to make some key saves.  They did score one, and it was weak.  Their player deked my defenseman and went wide, and I got stuck between RVH and staying in my stance.  I ended up getting off the post (should have been in regular stance as it wasn't quite to the hash marks), and he beat me short side.  3-1 final score, should have been a shut out for all my hard work.  After the buzzer  my team pretty much tackled me and proclaimed me the first star.  It really felt good, especially with how well I played and what I went through at the start.

 

It's also interesting how equipment can really affect things.  I've been struggling to get my pads to feel right.  I've pretty much done that finally, but I just wasn't getting the performance I wanted. Rotation issues, and poor sliding. and even weak pushes and slip outs.  I've been looking at new pads this past week because of it.  Well, I got Maltese KTPs about 2 months ago.  They were pretty comfy, and not bulky at all.  So I was pretty happy.  But I kind of felt landing was uneven with them - sometimes I'd land on the center of the disc, sometimes I wouldn't.  And times where it felt askew are more often when I had performance problems.  So after a rough game in the semi, I decided that I would just go back to the telescoping pads in my pants for the Final.  What a difference.  Pads felt great, sliding all came back, no more rotation problems, push strength came back, and no more slip outs. It was definitely the reason for my great play that game.  SO now I guess I'm looking for a different knee protection option.  Maybe the Bauer sleeves 

[IPv6Freely 2092]

14 minutes ago, psulion22 said:

So, I guess my try out went well.  

 

We won the championship last night, over our rivals that had beaten my team in the final in a shootout two seasons ago.  3-1 final score, and I played one of the best games I ever have, and certainly the best of this season.  From the start of warmups, I felt good.  We scored early, and then I kept us in it after that.  Saves through traffic and on deflections, I stopped a 2 on 1, and like 2 pass outs from behind the net.  I've finally gotten comfortable in the RVH, and it's really improved my game down low.  We scored another in the first, and it ended 2-0.  The second period was more of the same, and we scored another.  Their goalie was really good that period also, it could have easily been a 6-3 game.  But the second ended 3-0.  My team clamped down on defense in the third, and I wasn't quite as busy.  Though I still had to make some key saves.  They did score one, and it was weak.  Their player deked my defenseman and went wide, and I got stuck between RVH and staying in my stance.  I ended up getting off the post (should have been in regular stance as it wasn't quite to the hash marks), and he beat me short side.  3-1 final score, should have been a shut out for all my hard work.  After the buzzer  my team pretty much tackled me and proclaimed me the first star.  It really felt good, especially with how well I played and what I went through at the start.

 

It's also interesting how equipment can really affect things.  I've been struggling to get my pads to feel right.  I've pretty much done that finally, but I just wasn't getting the performance I wanted. Rotation issues, and poor sliding. and even weak pushes and slip outs.  I've been looking at new pads this past week because of it.  Well, I got Maltese KTPs about 2 months ago.  They were pretty comfy, and not bulky at all.  So I was pretty happy.  But I kind of felt landing was uneven with them - sometimes I'd land on the center of the disc, sometimes I wouldn't.  And times where it felt askew are more often when I had performance problems.  So after a rough game in the semi, I decided that I would just go back to the telescoping pads in my pants for the Final.  What a difference.  Pads felt great, sliding all came back, no more rotation problems, push strength came back, and no more slip outs. It was definitely the reason for my great play that game.  SO now I guess I'm looking for a different knee protection option.  Maybe the Bauer sleeves 

Congrats on the win!

The Bauer sleeves are for comfort, not protection. You definitely don't want to wear just those. I'd personally recommend the Passau knee pads. They're huge, but they don't feel like it once you're playing. I've had other knee pads that were huge and FELT huge and it was awful (the older Bauer Supreme model, specifically). 

[Hills 712]

On 8/16/2016 at 4:54 PM, tedpenguins said:

Any tips or suggestions would be much appreciated! I can pick out some things on my own but finer details I tend to overlook. I might see about getting a suction cup mount tomorrow.

So, I think you should stay away from the VH during plays like @ 50 seconds. I think a butterfly or a reverseVH would be better here. Since you said you are relatively new to goal tending I'd focus strictly on being square in plays like that. Personally I'd say just be in a square butterfly and that should do the trick, it'll keep you more mobile and make it easier to control the rebound. I can tell you when I play against starting goalies and they go into the VH I get happy as they always give me some net to shoot at. I can't tell if this is the case here because of the camera angle, but I'd suggest against using the VH for most starting goalies.

At 55 seconds make sure you are square to the shooter, I think you should be challenging more here as well but I can't be sure again because of the camera angle. I understand you are worried about the person back door, but you have to ensure you are square to the shooter and not cheating, you are pretty good at sliding so your abilities will be able to cover the backdoor fairly easily. Also, when playing a lower level of skill I feel you can give up those passes a bit, since the chances of the players making a good pass and then getting a good shot off are pretty small. Since defensive coverage in rec is spotty to begin with, it gets worse in lower levels (understandably), if I find myself in 3-on-1/0 or 2-on-1/0 situations I'll just play the shot, since the pass requires 2 players to make decent plays just to get a shot off.

You also favour your left leg a lot, what I mean by that is when in the butterfly your left leg sticks out while your right is directly behind you (see 1:12). Now I understand why you did it, since you pushed from the left to right and it naturally happens, but it does leave gaps and I think the players ended up shooting towards your right leg where those gaps occur. I have had issues with this the last few years and basically cheat to one side, and it is something I have been trying to fix. Ideally you'd just be square in the butterfly and have fast enough legs to cover the far corners, it is just something to look out for as it can get you into trouble (it certainly has for me).

[psulion22 402]

8 minutes ago, IPv6Freely said:

Congrats on the win!

The Bauer sleeves are for comfort, not protection. You definitely don't want to wear just those. I'd personally recommend the Passau knee pads. They're huge, but they don't feel like it once you're playing. I've had other knee pads that were huge and FELT huge and it was awful (the older Bauer Supreme model, specifically). 

Thanks!

 

They're a little for protection.  The foam is for impact absorption.  I do have the hard plastic telescoping guards, which cover pretty much everything.  So it's not like I don't wear anything at all.  The sleeves would be a secondary layer just in case a puck were to find a way through.  Part of the issue might be the way the KTPs fit into my landing gear.  The Maltese uses a 2" round piece of their gel on each side of the knee.  So you are essentially landing on a very small section.  That is concentrating my weight rather than dispersing it and spreading it across the whole landing gear.  This is more of a problem because my landing gear has a horseshoe shaped knee stack in it.  So I think the disk in the Maltese is not fitting into the horseshoe channel like my knee would.  That's causing it to become off center and sit wrong.  I'm going to try to try them with a flat knee stack to see if they will sit properly and if that makes the difference in performance.  Passaus may be my last ditch effort.  I think they will be too big for me though.  I just don't like knee guards.  

 

[IPv6Freely 2092]

1 minute ago, psulion22 said:

Thanks!

 

They're a little for protection.  The foam is for impact absorption.  I do have the hard plastic telescoping guards, which cover pretty much everything.  So it's not like I don't wear anything at all.  The sleeves would be a secondary layer just in case a puck were to find a way through.  Part of the issue might be the way the KTPs fit into my landing gear.  The Maltese uses a 2" round piece of their gel on each side of the knee.  So you are essentially landing on a very small section.  That is concentrating my weight rather than dispersing it and spreading it across the whole landing gear.  This is more of a problem because my landing gear has a horseshoe shaped knee stack in it.  So I think the disk in the Maltese is not fitting into the horseshoe channel like my knee would.  That's causing it to become off center and sit wrong.  I'm going to try to try them with a flat knee stack to see if they will sit properly and if that makes the difference in performance.  Passaus may be my last ditch effort.  I think they will be too big for me though.  I just don't like knee guards.  

 

I don't understand. Why would the inside of your knee be hitting the landing stack at all? Should be the front of your knee. 

[psulion22 402]

57 minutes ago, IPv6Freely said:

I don't understand. Why would the inside of your knee be hitting the landing stack at all? Should be the front of your knee. 

It's not really the front, as in directly on the knee cap.  The knee cap does hit the gear, but it's more just to the medial side and below that hits the landing gear directly.  That's where the discs are, inthe same place the Maltese pad would be in the Passaus.  That's what I mean by side.

Edited August 18, 2016 by psulion22

[bunnyman666 445]

Thursday Drop In, a.k.a. Exit Out of Benderville:

 

Bad turnout the last two days. Yesterday was crummy, as in not worth reporting. The last week was not worth reporting. Today was.

I stopped a lot of shots in a 2 vs. 2. Of course I was tired, DEAD tired. But I finally figured out one guy had the same move all of the time. Of course there is NO defense in 2 vs. 2. My crease movement is slow when there is no D.

I actually felt better, as a whole month with benders doing 85 dekes taking five minutes on a penalty shot took it's toll on my ability.

I was offered the new job. I accepted. I should start 1 September. Looking for a league as we speak.

 

 

[tedpenguins 93]

So I ended up purchasing the suction cup mount. Having a retail job helped get me the mount for under $30 so I would have been stupid to pass it up. For those of you that use it, how much of an angle do you leave the camera at? I would think you would want it mostly staring straight ahead with maybe a very, very slight downward angle. I should have some game footage with it up tonight or tomorrow, just depends on how late I get home from my games.

[IPv6Freely 2092]

I aim for basically blue line and in, and definitely want to see play at the net. It may take a couple tries for you to get the angle right. Once it is, use an actual screwdriver to make sure it's all super tight so it doesn't move. 

As for how high to put it, I basically put it as high as I can reach. The higher then better, really.

Eventually you get to the point where you can just look at it and see if it's aimed too far up or down. 

Looking forward to seeing your new angle!!

[badger_14 601]

Feeling a touch nervous about the tournament this weekend (which I am definitively playing in).  Each team gets four games, and the three teams with the most points at the end will be awarded medals.  (there are 5 teams).  Two games Saturday and two Sunday, which shouldn't be too bad.  Hopefully my luck as a goalie is better than my luck as a skater when it comes to tournaments.  I know a few of the folks already.