Vapor XXX stick at LHS

[Modo9 0]

Depends on the player. AHL players have a contract with THC and the NHL is having a Lock-out. At the World Cup alot were using Stealths, but I wouldn't put it past Easton to paint over sticks. Still a large possibility they are using a Stealth.

Possible. I am watching the Junior World cup right now (Russia USA, tivo'd it) and I don't see one player using a stealth. In the northeast college league I've only seen maybe 1/2 dozen using stealhts. but like you said Easton does paint over sticks, si-cores aren't si-cores, Poti's synergy is really an aluminum, so who really knows what stick anyone is really using. And I forgot about the AHL contract with RBK, that would explain a lot. But I have actually been catching more college games, and classic games than AHL.

[Eazy_b97 1]

Junior budgets are generally really tight. Synthesis are very popular and I know certain teams only allow OPS for games.

[kosydar 0]

could someone PLEASE put some pictures of the xxx. as well i think it would be beneficial or atleast interesting to have a photo gallery on msh just like on corebeam.

Search around, there are answers to both of your requests to be found.

[Modo9 0]

could someone PLEASE put some pictures of the xxx. as well i think it would be beneficial or atleast interesting to have a photo gallery on msh just like on corebeam.

Search around, there are answers to both of your requests to be found.

epuck.com has a pic of the XXX.

[kovalchuk71 212]

His synergies really are aluminums?

[Eazy_b97 1]

not synergies, his Z-Bubble shafts.

[Gongshow11 1]

its a gretzky aluminum shaft i think painted liek zbubbles

[Modo9 0]

Tom Poti has an aluminum stick. All you guys contemplate for hours, days and weeks on which stick to buy, racking your brains, stessing out and entering countless posts asking for advice. But the real truth is: Any composite stick under 1lb or less (455 grams or under) is a modern day marvel. A vapor to a ccm to an xn10 to an inno 1100 are such subtle differences, unlike composite to wood which is like comparing an abacus to a laptop! When it comes to composite sticks they are so close to all being the same, and you have a shot or you don't; you can stick-handle or you can't; you have hands or you don't. Switching from a response to a si-core is not going to change your game ...or atleast it shouldn't. Any sudden abilities you gain due to a stick is all in your head. It's you the hockey player, not the stick. Work on your conditioning, balance, and form, a lower kick-point, grip-coating, or mumbo-jumbo gel-pack hexagon-shaped nano-tube technology is not going to improve your game and score you goals. You are, not the stick.

[ponty 0]

Tom Poti has an aluminum stick. All you guys contemplate for hours, days and weeks on which stick to buy, racking your brains, stessing out and entering countless posts asking for advice. But the real truth is: Any composite stick under 1lb or less (455 grams or under) is a modern day marvel. A vapor to a ccm to an xn10 to an inno 1100 are such subtle differences, unlike composite to wood which is like comparing an abacus to a laptop! When it comes to composite sticks they are so close to all being the same, and you have a shot or you don't; you can stick-handle or you can't; you have hands or you don't. Switching from a response to a si-core is not going to change your game ...or atleast it shouldn't. Any sudden abilities you gain due to a stick is all in your head. It's you the hockey player, not the stick. Work on your conditioning, balance, and form, a lower kick-point, grip-coating, or mumbo-jumbo gel-pack hexagon-shaped nano-tube technology is not going to improve your game and score you goals. You are, not the stick.

100% agreed. One problem. Who said otherwise?

This equipment stuff is just a passion with most of these guys. A past time, hobbie.

Relax.

[Cavs019 708]

Tom Poti has an aluminum stick. All you guys contemplate for hours, days and weeks on which stick to buy, racking your brains, stessing out and entering countless posts asking for advice. But the real truth is: Any composite stick under 1lb or less (455 grams or under) is a modern day marvel. A vapor to a ccm to an xn10 to an inno 1100 are such subtle differences, unlike composite to wood which is like comparing an abacus to a laptop! When it comes to composite sticks they are so close to all being the same, and you have a shot or you don't; you can stick-handle or you can't; you have hands or you don't. Switching from a response to a si-core is not going to change your game ...or atleast it shouldn't. Any sudden abilities you gain due to a stick is all in your head. It's you the hockey player, not the stick. Work on your conditioning, balance, and form, a lower kick-point, grip-coating, or mumbo-jumbo gel-pack hexagon-shaped nano-tube technology is not going to improve your game and score you goals. You are, not the stick.

this should be stickied in the modsquad rulebook. Amen.

[Modo9 0]

I just think a lot of the youngin's get caught up in the marketing-hype, when really it's all bullshit. It's scary that all these corporations are grooming all the kids into little obsessed consumer tools. Granted they are not as devious as the alcohol and tobacco companies that target younger generations. Developing players main focus should be learning the game, conditioning, eating right; not worrying about therma-tec vs. amorphous carbon, 24" taper vs an 18", 455 grams vs 425 -- yeah it is fun to to see what the newest gimmicks are out there, but so many players seem to take this marketing propaganda to heart and think there ability to be play the game is based on these technologies. Take away the composite skates and .869lb one piece stick, and give a kid a wood stick and a hand-me down pair of tacks, and let them play a few games to realize it's them themself, and only them who are playing the game. Worry, concentrate, and focus on yourself, your stamina, hand-eye-coordination, maneuverability on any skate, and stick-handling abilities with any make of stick, not all the window-dressing b.s. technology the corporate hockey companies are constantly shoving down your throat everytime they need to sell a new product to hit their numbers.

[Eazy_b97 1]

I think its mostly to do with the cool factor and isn't THAT bad. Alot of players at least the younger ones I see, will stick with 1 stick till they grow out of it and the Price point OPS are popular with them.

[Modo9 0]

I think its mostly to do with the cool factor and isn't THAT bad. Alot of players at least the younger ones I see, will stick with 1 stick till they grow out of it and the Price point OPS are popular with them.

I am talking about all the modsquaders who post on this board. A lot of them are kids looking to improve their game, increase confidence, and establish themselves as players. My point is they should do all those things through old-fashioned methods that consist of constructive, blood sweat and tears, trial and error growth. And when you advance to new levels you have only yourself to thank - - not CCM, Bauer or Easton. And the same is for when you fail to take a pass, cough up the puck and the other team scores on a breakaway. Too many kid appear to believe if they pay $400.00 for a pair of skates they will skate faster; if they use a certain stick their shot will be harder and more accurate. The real fact is 1% is the equipment, 99% is all you.

Over the years of pouring through corebeam posts and now MSH posts, I've noticed a disturbing trend of more and more people basing their confidence and playing ability based on equipment. Top-of-the-line equipment is nice, is light, it looks really sweeet, but it is a luxury, and--most importantly--it should not change your game or enhance your playing ability. Learn to be confident with any equipment and then you know you have arrived, . . . you.

[ponty 0]

Great points and I do in fact agree. It’s the way we as Americans are with EVERYTHING.

It is important that kids get the fact that being a great player is about conditioning and talent/skill. Thats the parents job NOT the manufacturer.

My point is that its just the way kids are with everything. Hell that was mind my sent when the Koho Xcel and Titan Turbo came out. I and they will all figure it out.

Again great point and interesting conversation but I dont see this as being that big of a deal.

[Modo9 0]

Great points and I do in fact agree. It’s the way we as Americans are with everything regarding EVERYTHING.

It is important that kids get the fact that being a great player is about conditioning and talent/skill. Thats the parents job NOT the manufacturer.

I agree 100%. Over the years none of this stuff bothered me, but I am seeing it become more and more prevelant. And especially that now I am a dad, and my little guy will be skating in less than a year! :D ! :D ! I look at everything very differently. I want to make sure that I teach him and not the marketing team of Mission. And again, it's a novelty to read the catalogues and see the latest and greatest technologies *gimmicks*, but don't place any real stock in what a corporatation's marketing team is spewing. For instance Easton claims the stealth blade will give you a a faster harder shot, and more goals. Bullshit. Going to the net, keeping your head up, keeping your feet moving, practice-practice-practice, that will get you more goals . . . Not some engineer and a marketing guy at Easton.

[JR Boucicaut 3801]

Okay, good points, but whenever a new stick has come out, you've bought it.

[Modo9 0]

Great points and I do in fact agree. It’s the way we as Americans are with EVERYTHING.

It is important that kids get the fact that being a great player is about conditioning and talent/skill. Thats the parents job NOT the manufacturer.

My point is that its just the way kids are with everything. Hell that was mind my sent when the Koho Xcel and Titan Turbo came out. I and they will all figure it out.

Again great point and interesting conversation but I dont see this as being that big of a deal.

It's not a big deal. And my little posts will most-likely not make any difference, I just hate to see this trend continue to grow as it has. It's discouraging and disheartning.

[ponty 0]

By the passion in your posts I kinda figured you had a little one. I empathize

Your doing your job with the fight that every parent in every generation has done with one product or another.

I shoot the same with a Gold Grip Synergy or a Stealth. That has been my issue with a $200 stick. But hell thats my opinion and what I am willing NOT to pay.

[Modo9 0]

Okay, good points, but whenever a new stick has come out, you've bought it.

lol! Exactly! I've just had a moment of clarity and I wanted to share. After all, I am a recovering stickaholic. I just want to help.

[JR Boucicaut 3801]

LOL nice...

[Modo9 0]

Tom Poti has an aluminum stick.  All you guys contemplate for hours, days and weeks on which stick to buy, racking your brains, stessing out and entering countless posts asking for advice.  But the real truth is:  Any composite stick under 1lb or less (455 grams or under) is a modern day marvel.  A vapor to a ccm to an xn10 to an inno 1100 are such subtle differences, unlike composite to wood which is like comparing an abacus to a laptop!  When it comes to composite sticks they are so close to all being the same, and you have a shot or you don't; you can stick-handle or you can't; you have hands or you don't.  Switching from a response to a si-core is not going to change your game ...or atleast it shouldn't.  Any sudden abilities you gain due to a stick is all in your head.  It's you the hockey player, not the stick.  Work on your conditioning, balance, and form, a lower kick-point, grip-coating, or mumbo-jumbo gel-pack hexagon-shaped nano-tube technology is not going to improve your game and score you goals.  You are, not the stick.

this should be stickied in the modsquad rulebook. Amen.

Thanks for the kudos, Cavs.

[Cavs019 708]

modo i agree with you for the most part, but it is 100% true that having equipment that works the best for you, ie) correct skate fit, flex, etc, wont improve your game, but will help in maximizing the abilities you already have.

[Modo9 0]

modo i agree with you for the most part, but it is 100% true that having equipment that works the best for you, ie) correct skate fit, flex, etc, wont improve your game, but will help in maximizing the abilities you already have.

Yes, but that is properly fitting equipment regardless of what type of equipment. Or using a correct stick LIE, regardless of make.

[Cavs019 708]

thats what im getting at. Any stick around the 85 flex mark with a decent heel curve i can use, regardless of weight, brand, and material. If personal preference, (curve, sharpening hollow, etc) is combined with the correct fit (size, lie, etc) then you will be able to perform at your maximum, whether carbon therma-tec nanotube technology is present or not.

[hip check 0]

When you are in the top percentile of players, in the highest calibre league, every little advantage is a plus for you. However... Most house-leaguers, travel team-ers, beer league players won't benefit greatly from what bit of technology the newest stick has, a bit - sure. An elite level player (and how many of those are there - even in the NHL?) will use what makes them better, no expense spared.

Since we see Sundin, Sakic, or Fedorov with some shiny new piece of gear, we'd better get it, too! I've gone through most of the OPS around, and am back to a shaft/blade combo. None were the miracle cure for me. I still shoot just the same, and don't expect the next new stick to set me on the road to catching Hull, McInnis and Naslund. I should have been developing what God-given talent I have LONG ago to be at that level.

But, I hear Easton's new sub-400g metallic pink stick is supposed to do wonders for guys in the Over 30 leagues! Better start saving up! ;) <_<