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Best outdoor wheels?

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Which outdoor wheels do you like most for unpainted concrete and smooth asphalt (outdoor hockey rinks in summer)?

I´m 96kg and used Hyper Pro 150 83a(too slow), labeda asphalt 85a 4x80mm, they are fast and have a great wear resistance but lost the grip after a month and some weeks in the next season. Now I´m on prime centurio 82a/84a, bought at the end of last season. Our season (no locker room, no contact, 1,5m distance, max. 20 people and outdoor) will start in one week. If I´m not lucky with the centurios, which wheels should I try?

I could get these wheels:

Konixx Rocket 2x

Revision Asphalt Pro

RinkRat Trickster x 84a

Base Sudden Death 84a

Hyper Pro 250 84a

Labeda Asphalt 83a

Any experiences or suggestions?

I´m searching for the perfect mix of speed and grip, not the cheapest or most durable wheels. 😉

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In my experience, Labeda asphalt are the best. If you got a month plus out of those that's pretty good. I weigh about 200lbs and I'm happy to get a month out of outdoor wheels. I have tricksters coming too, and they better be good because they're double the price of everything else

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I’ve had great experiences with Labeda Asphalts too. Definitely would recommend them to anyone needing good outdoor wheels.

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The Labeda Asphalt 85A are still one of the best outdoor wheels, and will be one of the fastest on the list.

If you did want a bit more grip, try the Labeda Asphalts 83a. Another wheel to consider if available is the Revision Clinger, enjoyed using that and heard lots of others enjoy playing on it.

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Finally I could order some RinkRat Trickster X 84a dual pour wheels. 

My first impression is that they are amazing. They are faster than my used Labedas, and have more grip and are more agile than the centurion 82a-84a-84a-82a setup. They have the best rebound of the tested wheels. They are too new to talk about the durability yet. 

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I should hope they're good, they're double the price. If I played anything competitive on an outdoor rink I'd probably try them, but for pickup I can't see spending that money. Glad you like them though

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Somehow I´m in a competition. I´m a late beginner with poor athletic prerequisites, and I´m having fun together with young sportive people and middle agers with dozens of years of hockey experience. So I am fine with anything that just keeps me on the wheels for ten minutes longer. And it's still a workout for me. 

The difference between those wheels is amazing to me. Skating around the block on bad sidewalks is even more astonishing because the cushoning of the wheels is incredible. Now i understand why speed skaters pay horrendous prices for dual pour wheels.

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Yeah, nothing wrong with spending the money if you have it. I've got 3 little kids. If you're looking for comfort, sprungs have been a game changer for me. The suspension absorbs a ton of the impact. Even skating on shredded sidewalk I had almost no chatter at all. 

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Back in the day the og rink rat world cups/hotshot x grip were a decent premium outdoor wheel.

Theyve been rereleased as the MPC branded “Freestyle” dual pour.

Cost more but highly recommended.

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Rink Rat and Mpc are different brands of the same manufacturer(same factory address). Mpc Freestyle and Rink Rat Trickster have an identical look, just a different colour. Trickster should be 84a and Freestyle is 84a-86a according to resellers information. 

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Yup, they are the same wheel, very unique dual pour outdoor wheel. I can imagine this on the old vforms for some beach hockey

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On 7/26/2020 at 7:44 PM, hockeydad3 said:

Rink Rat and Mpc are different brands of the same manufacturer(same factory address). Mpc Freestyle and Rink Rat Trickster have an identical look, just a different colour. Trickster should be 84a and Freestyle is 84a-86a according to resellers information. 

 

On 7/27/2020 at 12:54 AM, Miller55 said:

Yup, they are the same wheel, very unique dual pour outdoor wheel. I can imagine this on the old vforms for some beach hockey

Just to be clear hockeydad3 you are referring to the single pour version wheel.

My post is in reference to the dual pour wheel.

MPC have released both versions as Freestyle.

The dual pour wheel has nothing to do with the trickster.

Miller55 is correct, as I previously mentioned it is the OG World Cup/Hot shot x rebranded .

 

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Rink Rat Trickster and MPC Freestyle single and dual pour have the same look. They have different colours, a different print on them and they are manufactured at the same place.

http://www.online-skating.com/articles-4558-wheel-test-report-of-the-mpc-freestyle-x-firm-72-and-76mm.html

I couldn´t compare the wheels and MPC didn´t answer my request for the difference between the wheels.

 

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6 hours ago, hockeydad3 said:

Rink Rat Trickster and MPC Freestyle single and dual pour have the same look. They have different colours, a different print on them and they are manufactured at the same place.

http://www.online-skating.com/articles-4558-wheel-test-report-of-the-mpc-freestyle-x-firm-72-and-76mm.html

I couldn´t compare the wheels and MPC didn´t answer my request for the difference between the wheels.

 

Similar but not the same.

Dual pour has an M-tech ring, single pour does not and colour is slightly different.

Single is the trickster rebranded and the dual is the old 84a rebranded.

Theyre being marketed as a slalom wheel in Europe.

 

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Rink Rat answered my request:

The Trickster is a hybrid between single and dual pour. Two different polyurethanes are combined in a single pour process.

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15 hours ago, Wicked3Aussie said:

Similar but not the same.

Dual pour has an M-tech ring, single pour does not and colour is slightly different.

Single is the trickster rebranded and the dual is the old 84a rebranded.

Theyre being marketed as a slalom wheel in Europe.

 

Does a slalom wheel have the same elliptical profile? Not familiar with the sport, seems like a very European thing honestly

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19 hours ago, hockeydad3 said:

Rink Rat answered my request:

The Trickster is a hybrid between single and dual pour. Two different polyurethanes are combined in a single pour process.

Yeah it’s a single pour wheel with a premier quality urethane.

Theyre not too bad but not my first choice, I have the 84a single pours as well and only like them on asphalt.

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19 hours ago, Miller55 said:

Does a slalom wheel have the same elliptical profile? Not familiar with the sport, seems like a very European thing honestly

I would assume so.

profile can be dependant on company as well, labeda use a different profile in their wheels compared to rink rat for example.

I can confirm that other than the sick colour job on the dual pours they’re virtually Identical to the old school world cup(I still have a couple brand new in my draw that I can use for comparison) and every other dual pour rink rat hockey wheel.

 

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6 hours ago, Wicked3Aussie said:

Yeah it’s a single pour wheel with a premier quality urethane.

For me it sounds like the trickster wheels are single pour but dual density. Have to wait till they are worn down before i can cut one into two pieces.

And finally both patent numbers printed on the wheels are for patents for multi durometer wheels (U.S. Pat. No. 6,036,278; U.S. Pat. No. 6,227,622B1).

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