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Not quite, it was actually a 3-way deal. But that’s beside the point of your post. He pretty much immediately posted his pad mockup, maybe an hour after? It was pretty damn quick either way. They look pretty awesome. Lehner always has great looking pads.

Okay guys leave the VT stuff in that thread. We don’t need to rehash why it’s meaningless every time it gets brought up

who knows I was a kid lol. I never even heard of lace bite until I got it as an adult but I’d kill for that tongue now

Care to explain this for those of us who don't keep up with all the news/rumors/etc.? I really want a 4500 with better padding. Love the look. Love the fit. Don't believe that it provides the best protection in todays day and age.

Way back in the day I had a pair of skates, I think racks but maybe Bauer supremes, and they had a real thick felt tongue with exactly what You’re describing - long channel down the center

The pencil test is usually done right in the pocket of the 'L' shape of the facing (eyelet 4 or 5) where it transitions from instep to shin. Not way up where you are placing it. Is your heel lock OK? Your heel sitting back in the pocket? I think your problem isn't depth at all it's that you are tying your skates too tight at the top 1 or 2 eyelet and your tongue is probably breaking down and the laces are cutting in. Why do you skip eyelet 3? That puts extra strain on 2. I would fully heal your bump/lacebite (there are exercises with a resistance band on youtube that will greatly help accelerate that) and switch to lacing without skipping eyelet 3. Instead skip eyelet 1. And get some new wide skate laces (howies or Elite Hockey) non-wax. But don't do anything until you heal that bump up.

That's pretty high for lacebite! I'm thinking that's coming from eyelet 1 or 2 on your skates? Do you skip the top eyelet? How bad of a condition were your tongues in when you got that?

Well, it’s already made; just depending on how you interpret the court ruling 😆

VT testing is insufficient for hockey. I appreciate them trying, but until they change their testing methods their ranking are essentially useless.

I believe he means a padded V shape on the inside of the tongue and a more rigid C shape on the outside sort of like this cross-section of a tongue expertly drawn in MS paint.😄

If you're going to profile them, I would look at doing a combo 9/10 profile. You'll get good agility, but also keep your glide. As for FBV, if you're on a 92/50 right now I would suggest going to a 90/75. You'll retain the glide you have, but you'll get more stability in your turns/pushes. The combo of the 90/75 and a 9/10 profile should yield some great results.