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Perhaps they need it clearly explaining to them (in big letters) that the skates require adjustments, they might be used to skates that either fit out of the box, or do so after a simple bake. People sometimes don't hear something they are told, I've done it myself. However, my comment was in response to this: That just seems odd, if that really is your impression then fair enough. I can't imagine ordering a custom product in the hope that it does not fit.
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I prefer wider unwaxed laces, the extra width makes them easier to grip and causes less discomfort in the hands. They also tend to slip less in the eyelets. The default Bauer laces are narrow and soft, horrible, no idea about Trues.
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Even though I have Bauer customs, not Trues, I think the question is relevant. My understanding is that custom skates are designed to be a close fit, to remove what most people call negative space, or empty space (which I think is a clearer description). Anyway, I have had sore toes, where the sides of my toes rub against the sides of the skates. Is this normal? I discovered that if I wore soft wool socks, not only does this stop the rubbing (or more accurately, the discomfort from rubbing), but my feet are warmer.
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Sk8Stk: I don’t have the knowledge to comment on most of your post, but your suggestion that some people pay a significant sum of money and want the skate to not fit is bizarre. Are you really asking us to believe that? It’s possible they think they should fit from the word go, and aren’t willing to have them adjusted. As an aside, socks make a difference. I got pain today when wearing thin cheap socks, and none when wearing wool skiing socks, I think the latter are softer and warmer.
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From previous posts it’s quite obvious that he has had badly fitting skates from True, at least twice. As for the current ones, I can only accept what he says. Honestly I think he’d be better off getting his money back and going with Bauer or CCM. I don’t doubt the quality of True skates for most people but it looks like they failed smu/Alan.
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Smu: I have no idea what to say, except maybe you have an unusual foot shape.
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Nicholas G: I had issues with my Bauer Custom skates compressing my toes and rubbing against the outsides of my small and big toes. As I mentioned earlier, they seem to be adjusting themselves, maybe when I skate they warm up, and expand slightly in response to pressure. To be honest custom skates of any brand are a close fitting item, and the foot is a living item that changes in size throughout the day, so expecting a perfect fit from the outset is perhaps unreasonable. However, the improved fit does give me a better feel for the ice, it is quite a revelation. Hell, one day I might learn to play hockey. 🙄
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Smu:I hope you find a good solution, whether that is using the skates you have, or otherwise. I guess I am lucky as my Bauer s160 skates were okay, and my current Bauer Custom skates are wonderful. Yes they were a bit painful at first, but they seem to have adjusted themselves to my feet. I think this is because my feet are fairly average. I’m sure you know, but there are posts in this forum about using a clamp to compress the heel. I have a feeling that the True skates are so mouldable that you should be able to get a nice fit. I’ve poked and prodded my friends pair, and without doubt they are quite different from my Bauers.
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Many female skaters will have feet that small or smaller. I can think of one in a team I used to train with.
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Are they now a decent fit? Not sure if this is relevant, but my Bauer Custom skates were a bit tight in the toes, two more bakes, and many hours on ice and I'm rather impressed at how each is gradually forming a close mould around the foot. I assume True would be similar.
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Mine was a Bauer scan with socks, and Mark in the LHS is very careful. However, I think in retrospect ordinary thin normal socks would have been better. One advantage of Bauer, and CCM, is that you can try on stock boots to get a feel for the fit. One thing I noticed about my friend’s True skates is that they seem to grip the leg above the ankle, whereas my skates grip the ankle, but not the leg, which I feel gives me more freedom although it took a while to adapt. I certainly noticed it when going from mid range Bauer skates which grip the leg.
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Another thing that might be worth doing when having a scan is wearing appropriate socks. I've noticed some allow the toes to splay, and some such as Bauer hockey socks pull the toes in as they seem to be made for narrow feet. This wasn't mentioned to me as I bought Bauer socks in the shop before the scan thinking they would be ideal.
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You can’t make any judgements based on posts on forums. For every person who has issues, and comes online to find out what they can do, there may be huge numbers of satisfied owners who do not post online. Also you don’t know how many they make in a year, the more they make the more likely someone has issues. Certainly some posts here reflect badly on True, but we may see similar reports about CCM and Bauer customs once lots are out in the wild. My LHS is the biggest Bauer custom seller in the U.K. but they’ve only sold ~20. As an owner of custom skates, it occurred to me that manufacturers are making a skate that is supposed to fit very closely around a foot requiring tight tolerances. That is no mean feat (no pun intended). And as said expectations are high. I have had to bake my Bauer’s three times to get a near perfect wrap. Something that does puzzle me is that a friend who has True skates likes them, and they look good, but he has to really tighten the laces such that his feet go numb. He says he can’t skate if they are not tight. I do wonder if they restrict his ankles flexing when that tight. I tighten my Bauer’s, but nowhere near that tight.
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Thanks all. Yes, obviously I’m not going to learn to do a triple Salchow etc, but learn better edge control, better mechanics of skating. Regarding hockey skating coaches, here in England hockey is a minority sport, and we don’t really have hockey skating coaches. And yes there is some stigma to taking lessons, one friend said “man up”. 🙂 But I’ve seen how quickly some figure skaters learn when they take lessons.
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I’ve been learning to play for 18 months, and regularly learning to skate for two years, though I had very basic skating skills before. I skate at least six hours a week. I can do forwards cross rolls, hockey stops, left and right, forwards and backwards, one foot outside edge hockey stops, left and right, crossovers, left and right, forwards and backwards, backwards one foot stops, left and right, and tight turns, left and right. I’m currently learning a forwards one foot slalom. Someone suggested I take lessons from a figure skating coach to improve my edge control. We don’t have any hockey skating coaches here. Would this be a good idea, or not? I’m 55 and very fit if that makes any difference.
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It’s also essential for anyone having skates sharpened, a lot of sharpeners are unable to get level edges, and you want to know who can be trusted.
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Exactly, they can do 1/4 size increments, with different sizes and widths for each foot. Most people do have slightly different feet, I have 6.5D and 6.75EE feet. Fortunately my legs are the same length.
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The custom program gives you the ability to customise the 2s, such as having traditional lacing or injected lacing, but it also means a better and closer fit. I assume this is for a youth, in which case custom would be a bad idea due to growth.
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Keeping the profile is one reason I want a Sparx. When I bought new skates, I checked the profile of my old blades, Step steel, and they were flat except at the ends. No wonder I had trouble with some edge drills. It’s hard enough to find a sharpener who can get even edges, never mind one wo keeps the profile. I think the fact that Step is deeper does not help.
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Apologies if this has already been posted, but I came across this PDF file while looking into the heat moulding process. It describes fitting True skates, heat moulding them, and getting a tighter ankle fit: https://www.true-hockey.com/media/TRUE_Step_By_Step_Guide_EN_Online.compressed.pdf I thought it might be of interest. Also, does anyone have a link to the description of how to clamp True skates in this thread. It’s a long thread, and I don’t want to read every page.
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Do let us know what the new skates are like, but no need to write War and Peace ... Glad to hear your woes should be over. 🙂
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You've lost me. Why do you assume his shins are rubbing? What is he doing wrong?
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I saw Tom this evening at a scrimmage, and he wears his shins outside of his skate tongues. I’m not saying the Trues wear unduly, but they do show signs of wear after 8 months for sure.
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Were you in the U.K., you’d probably be able to get a full refund on the grounds that the good is not as described I.e. it is not a custom fit to your feet. After all, you seem to have a worse fit than from stock skates. You might want to look into consumer law in your area. I once lived in Montreal, 25 years ago, and consumer law there was atrocious. I’m surprised True have not contacted you via the forum, this is not good publicity.
