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Everything posted by Larry54
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Those look like a good choice being as they describe a "thin, liner type" sock. So your issues are not due to excessively thick socks.
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Do you wear fairly thick socks in your skates?
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There seems to be a lot of space between the pencil and your foot. However, to me those pictures don't look like a properly baked VH skate. The eyelet walls should be wrapping over the top of your foot instead of jutting straight up. On my skates, I can almost squeeze my pinky finger beneath the pencil at its closest point to the foot, but the eyelet walls curve over my foot and ankle. I suggest you rebake them and press down on the eyelet rows with your hands while the hot boot is on your foot. Or use a heat gun to soften the top of the skate while it's on your foot, and press down the area with your hands while taking up the slack in your laces that this will result in.
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Funny you should mention that. Before getting my first pair of VH skates almost 5 years ago, I skipped the top eyelet on Bauer Flexlites. When I got the VH skates, I had all the forward flex I needed even laced to the top. Those skates were lighter and more flexible than my current pair of VH skates that I've had for about a year and a half. I've been struggling a bit with limited knee flex with the new, much stiffer VH skates. I tried different lacing patterns with different types of laces (regular, waxed, and oval). For the last month or so, I've been omitting the top eyelet, partly inspired by posts by Vet88 and Amazinmets73. After having gone through a short adjustment period, I'm finally feeling the same agility and mobility that my old VH skates provided. It's as if the boot is so secure to my foot below the second eyelet that I don't need the additional stability that the upper eyelet provides.
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Thanks. That's pretty much what I figured.
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Like I said, but maybe not clearly enough, I'm not sure if it was the trainer or the store rep who told him that. It might just be some sales bull, or to make my friend feel like he's receiving a special favor getting a supposedly "pro spec" version. When I asked him for details, he wasn't able to tell me. He's not exactly a gear geek. So for the record, Zac, does the regular Joe get exactly the same product as the NHL pro?
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A goalie friend of mine got some True skates. He said he got fitted at a retailer but went through a friend of his who's an equipment manager of an NHL team. He said that he was told (I don't know if it was from his friend or from the store fitter) that the quality of True's NHL boot is superior to the one available to the typical consumer. He didn't know the precise details, but my question to the True fitters on this board is: Is there any truth to this, or was someone bullshitting him?
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Don't they now have a flat heel surface built into the carbon fiber? On the left is the original VH skate, and on the right is the last VH model before True bought them and before the Step holder was available.
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But what's the difference in weight between two True skates of the same size, one with integrated shot blockers and one without? My blockerless VH skates weigh around 830 grams each. NicholasG's skate weighs 1020 grams. That's 190 grams difference but my skates are around size 6.5 with size 254 LS2 holders, whereas his are a couple sizes larger with size 272 Step holders. So it sure doesn't look like the integrated shot blockers are "much heavier" than external ones if at all.
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Out of curiosity, is the extra weight of the integrated shot blockers more or less than the weight of conventional shot blockers / skate fenders? Assuming it's less, I could see why someone who would have worn shot blockers anyway would want the integrated ones, while someone who doesn't usually wear them might not like the extra weight.
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That's assuming the Bauer size 9 were properly fitted. If your toes brush the Bauer toecaps, your assumption is probably a pretty safe one.
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The "glue" issue looks like some kind of clear coating rubbing off. It might have something to do with the way the blue lines/graphics are applied to the liner. My first pair of VH skates had grey Clarino liner and nothing like that happened. After 3 years of use, the liner just lost a bit of its original sheen in some spots. I got my more recent pair just before True came into the picture. It has a brown Clarino liner and also doesn't have those True blue graphics, and after a year there is no sign of wear like in your pictures. As for skipping the top eyelet, if you place your True skate beside your old skate, you might see that the True's top eyelet is about the same height as the second eyelet of your old skate. That was the case when I compared my VH skate to the Bauer Flexlites that I wore previously.
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Just to give an idea, with insoles removed from all the following skates, my old Bauer Flexlite 4.0 skate is 750g. My first VH skate that I got when they first came out is 730g. Both have fairly worn LS2 steel in a 263 holder. My newer VH skate which I got just before True entered the picture weighs 820g and I didn't order the optional shot blocker protection. It has Step steel in a 254 holder. I don't notice the extra weight that much, but I had heavier Graf Sidas insoles in the first two whereas I have the stock VH insole in the last skate. P.S. As far as blacking out the logo, I lean toward leaving it. And I prefer white laces. But in a game situation, I don't ever notice what others are wearing anyway. My focus is elsewhere.
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There are a few posts from this thread starting here which might interest you:
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Just want to add that Sniper9 said that his LHS installed 2 steel rivets on the latest holder where True had installed 2 copper rivets on the original holder.
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I think it was about CCM inner sole.
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Is there any kind of concrete study to justify quad profiles, or are we just relying on the word of ProSharp and those who promote it, anecdotal evidence, and to a certain extent placebo effect? In a Google search I even came across some who've tried it and felt it's mostly a gimmick. Who knows, maybe it can even be detrimental if you're muscle memory is continually adjusting from one radius to another depending on what area of the blade your weight is on. I doubt that, but the skeptic in me wonders if it isn't just a solution looking for a problem, or just good marketing. Sometimes we do things just because we can. Maybe just a single profile with the right pitch is just as good. I mean I have all the speed and agility that I need with a simple 10' profile with neutral pitch, but I worked on my skating to get it rather than chasing new profiles. I just wonder if exploring quad profiles is worth my time.
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I'm aware of that since it's good to maintain a profile even if it's just a simple single profile, just for consistency. I'm specifically asking about the use of quad profiles in the NHL. The people in these forums who deal with NHL players must have a good idea about what I'm asking.
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Just out of curiosity, which NHL players use quad profiles? What percentage of them do?
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First I placed the tongues in far enough so that the top of the Velcro tab aligned with the top of the Velcro on the tongue. But the Velcro on the ceiling of the toe cap was snagging my socks so I bought some 1/4" thick felt insoles at the dollar store. I cut the heel off of each insole just long enough to fit on the ceiling of the toe cap in front of the tongue. The felt stuck adequately to the Velcro so no adhesive required. And it removed some space above my toes while protecting my socks from the velcro.
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The only creaking I've noticed on my VH skates is when I flex the right tendon guard with my hand. FWIW, I have LS2 holders.
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I feel the same way. You can tweak the nut to get the tightness just right on the LS2. With the Edge, you're relying on close tolerances in the latching mechanism which can't be adjusted.
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The more posts I read about the LS Edge, the happier I am that I chose LS2 holders.
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I may be a bit anal about these things but I would ask to have them bake one skate at a time so you can focus 100% on each skate.