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Larry54
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I had a feeling that would be the case as I wrote about a year ago.
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I like the way that the small T is placed like the apostrophe in Irish names starting with O.
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Then get a sharpie and color the top of one of the blades, let's say the right one, so you'll know that the colored one always goes on the right.
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I never said I needed to know the difference between right and left steel.
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Isn't the blade length etched on the "tangs" on opposite sides of the two blades?
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So we can say that a lot of people who think they don't have a problem with the edge holder, because they don't sharpen skates, don't realize that their blade might not be as solidly held as in an LS2 holder. So their blade may be flexing left and right as they're skating, wasting energy, but it's too subtle for them to be conscious of it. Since I never need to change blades between two shifts, I chose LS2 holders since I had that choice when I bought my skates. Having Edge holders on your skates because it was the only choice when buying Bauer skates is one thing, but I wouldn't swap LS2 holders for Edge holders unless you really want/need the quick-change feature.
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That makes sense. Even before they started using scanning, I was advised to make the tracings and take the measurements barefoot even if I was planning on wearing socks with my skates.
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I totally agree with that. If the customer's current skate is the wrong size, it might even be misleading and hurt the process. I feel that it's the reason why my first pair of VH were built one size longer than my current VH.
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I had my first pair of VH for 3 years and I've had my second for 2 years, playing 2-3 times a week, and I have no wear in that area. Maybe it has to do with the way he wears his shin pads? The tongues of my skates are tucked under the shin pads, FWIW. Does he flop his tongues?
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The foam in the toe box is reminiscent of MLX skates. When they were first released, they didn't have half sizes so they put a "plug" in the toe cap to decrease the boot by a half size. That never made any sense to me. I mean, we basically tolerate having our toes brush the inside of the toe cap for the benefit of having the smallest, lightest, close-fitting skate possible. Having a piece of foam to imitate the feel of brushing the toe cap in an overly large skate is the exact opposite of this concept. It didn't make sense with the MLX skates and makes even less sense now with a custom skate. I mean I love my VH skates but I'm frankly disappointed in your situation. Again I hope True make this right for you.
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Roy Clark
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Maybe I wasn't clear. I meant that I felt that the skates were longer than they should be for my feet, not the holders. I'll edit my previous post to replace "they" with "the skate boots", for clarity.
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No problem. I totally understand your frustrations. The reason for my question about blade size goes back to my first pair of VH, 5 years ago. One of the many pieces of info that they asked for was current skate brand and size, and current blade size. Even though I wore size 7 Bauer with "263" blades, I wrote that I believed the skate boots were longer than they should be, but I had chosen that length to avoid having the toe cap pinch my weird, wide forefoot and toes. I also mentioned that I wouldn't mind going with shorter blades if the ideal boot for my foot was shorter than my current pair. Then I received VH skates that were the same length as my Bauers with "263" blades and just assumed they knew better even though there was a good 7-8mm ahead of my toes. The skates fit so well otherwise with the molding that I felt good about the skates. Three years later, when I saw that other VH owners had much closer fitting skates lengthwise, I decided to order a new pair. I sent several e-mails to Rob insisting on a closer fitting boot, asking him to throw out the data on my first boots, even specifically asking for "254" blades because I knew that "263" blades could not fit on shorter boots. My current VH skates are closer to a size 6 with "254" blades and fit perfectly. Not knowing what their thinking was at the time, I felt they might have made the boots long enough to fit the "263" blades that they thought I would be more familiar with. That's why I asked you if you requested oversized holders. I was just trying to figure out why they would have made you longer boots. But from your description, it sounds like True are really way off on this one and I hope they will make it right for you.
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I'm just trying to help. A simple "No" would have answered my question.
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Did you ask for a specific blade size? If you asked for an oversized blade, they might have built the boot longer so it can accommodate the requested holder. I know it's not a good reason for building an ill-fitting boot, but it would be good to know everything that might have contributed to this situation.
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Something just occurred to me. We always compare the weight of True skates with other brands' retail skates. Do NHL players' custom CCM and Bauer skates weigh the same as the retail versions or are they built up for extra stiffness and/or durability and are thus heavier? True only have one spec which is custom pro spec, so are we comparing apples to oranges when we compare their weight to other brands' retail skates?
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I would assume that the data they acquired from special cases like Byfuglien and Chara would be added to their process for making skates for other huge clients. Maybe they'll use your data to improve their process for guys of your size.
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Those look like a good choice being as they describe a "thin, liner type" sock. So your issues are not due to excessively thick socks.
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Do you wear fairly thick socks in your skates?
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There seems to be a lot of space between the pencil and your foot. However, to me those pictures don't look like a properly baked VH skate. The eyelet walls should be wrapping over the top of your foot instead of jutting straight up. On my skates, I can almost squeeze my pinky finger beneath the pencil at its closest point to the foot, but the eyelet walls curve over my foot and ankle. I suggest you rebake them and press down on the eyelet rows with your hands while the hot boot is on your foot. Or use a heat gun to soften the top of the skate while it's on your foot, and press down the area with your hands while taking up the slack in your laces that this will result in.
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Funny you should mention that. Before getting my first pair of VH skates almost 5 years ago, I skipped the top eyelet on Bauer Flexlites. When I got the VH skates, I had all the forward flex I needed even laced to the top. Those skates were lighter and more flexible than my current pair of VH skates that I've had for about a year and a half. I've been struggling a bit with limited knee flex with the new, much stiffer VH skates. I tried different lacing patterns with different types of laces (regular, waxed, and oval). For the last month or so, I've been omitting the top eyelet, partly inspired by posts by Vet88 and Amazinmets73. After having gone through a short adjustment period, I'm finally feeling the same agility and mobility that my old VH skates provided. It's as if the boot is so secure to my foot below the second eyelet that I don't need the additional stability that the upper eyelet provides.
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Thanks. That's pretty much what I figured.
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Like I said, but maybe not clearly enough, I'm not sure if it was the trainer or the store rep who told him that. It might just be some sales bull, or to make my friend feel like he's receiving a special favor getting a supposedly "pro spec" version. When I asked him for details, he wasn't able to tell me. He's not exactly a gear geek. So for the record, Zac, does the regular Joe get exactly the same product as the NHL pro?
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A goalie friend of mine got some True skates. He said he got fitted at a retailer but went through a friend of his who's an equipment manager of an NHL team. He said that he was told (I don't know if it was from his friend or from the store fitter) that the quality of True's NHL boot is superior to the one available to the typical consumer. He didn't know the precise details, but my question to the True fitters on this board is: Is there any truth to this, or was someone bullshitting him?
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Don't they now have a flat heel surface built into the carbon fiber? On the left is the original VH skate, and on the right is the last VH model before True bought them and before the Step holder was available.
