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5 hours ago, GoalForFun said:Maybe Bauer has already abandoned the Powerfly holder 😂
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Different profiles for different people though. I feel much more agile on 13'+1 than I did on neutral 10' or 9.5'/10.5' (if that's True's stock profile). I don't feel the blade catching at all when I don't want it to. I'm thinking of going to an even longer profile next.
I haven't tried any of the more complicated combos, but I really don't want a super short profile in the front of my blade as well as the added pitch. The added pitch is enough.
Just like ROH, I'd say go with what works. If you get good enough grip at a shallower hollow or if you have enough agility and quickness at a longer radius, it'll only help. As soon as the blade is grabbing when you're not expecting it there's too much dig, either front-to-back/profile or side-to-side/hollow, and it's time to back off. That's my work-in-progress theory.
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Steel for True's new holder looks like it has cut outs at the top reminiscent of Tuuk Light Speed perforated steel. It doesn't cut out as far down, but you can see space between the holder and the steel across the bridge if you zoom in a bit.
I like the look of the holder. A lot less busy compared to everything going on on the surface of Shift and Shift Max.
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10 hours ago, Westside said:Prototypes of the new Warrior skates. They’re prototypes, but eesh not a great looking leak
I actually like them. You can see where some flourishes could be added to make the more window ready, but they have a decent silhouette. Looks like a pretty average cut pattern—in between L and C. I like the static pattern on the quaters better than a bunch of lines that don’t mean anything. I’m surprised they’re going with unreinforced facing on the fore and midfoot. Every time a skate company does that they go away from it after a generation or two.
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I saw some TF roller boots with vented toe caps at one point. I guess they must have gone away from that.
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1 hour ago, sturdy22 said:I have never skated on cobras but do still have several pairs of Makos with CXNs. the Lightspeed, Edge and Power Fly holders are not the same pitch as CXN with the Es4 steel when on the mako boot. I’ve spent hundreds of $$ on profiling trying to get the right feel and always end up back in the CXNs.
There's definitely something that doesn't quite work out from his diagrams and calculations to the actual feel on the ice. Cobra feels way more pitched than Custom+, but his work shows them as the same. LS2 and Edge are supposed to be more pitched than Cobra but to me they feel less pitched. CXN and True Shift are supposed to be the same, but Shift feels closer to LS2 to me and CXN feels very close to Cobra.
I've recently gone from 13' neutral to 13' +1 pitch on LS2s and they feel much better than before, closer to that Cobra/CXN feel. What profiles have you tried?
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4 hours ago, sturdy22 said:This is awesome. I’ve been having my steel pitched forward since the mid 90s. The CXN holder and stock steel has been the closest I have found without having to adjust the steel and when I can find them always get out on my boots. The measurements and diagrams are very cool to see.
I only skated on Makos once and the pitch reminded me a lot of being on Cobras. It just feels so much better for me to have that pitch. Even though Bauer’s holders from LS2 on are supposed to be as pitched as Cobra and stock Graf steel it still feels off to me, too far back.
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Again, there are others who definitely know that can correct my guesses, but if my recollection is right, Bauer's stock replacement steel has been 10' for a while, and Step is usually 10' as well. If the steel at the toe was getting in the way, going to 11' from 10' would only make that worse, even if just a bit. But if you went from Custom+ to PowerFly or Edge, I think you're also experiencing a difference in forward pitch again. Maybe not as drastic as Cobras with their stock 11' forward pitched steel. The more I think about it, the more it seems you want to be back in a more neutral pitch.
The most comprehensive pitch resource I've found is this https://icehockey360.ru/baza-znanij/geometricheskie-parametry-stakanov/
It's in Russian, but it makes sense from the measurements and diagrams. If you liked Custom+ with 9', skating on a newer Bauer holder with 11' is back in the direction you were at originally in 707s on stock Cobras. That's a big difference. I know it from the other side because that stock Graf setup is my favorite of all that I've tried and as soon as I have that pitch back it's so much better for me. Pitch is the big difference maker for me from my recent profilings. That could make my advice here biased, but as I said, hopefully those who know better will correct anything that doesn't quite add up. I'm still very much a novice when it comes to profiling. I'm a believer now, just one with very little knowledge in the area.
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17 hours ago, caseyjones said:Can I hijack this a bit for profile help? I recently went down a holder size 263 to 254. I was previously skating with Graf cobras size 263. I hated the pitch and never felt quite right. After a couple years I swapped tuuk custom plus size 263 holders and immediately felt more comfortable. They did have step steel in them with a 9 foot profile. I recently bought Machs and went from a size 7 Graf 707 to a size 6 Mach. Took me a few skates to stop tripping over my toes. The adjustment wasn’t as bad as I thought but it’s still not perfect. Recently went from stock profile to 11 foot and it didn’t help at all. I still get a little too far forward and my toes and can stumble occasionally. I’m sliding out on my crossovers. Any profile suggestions to get me closer to the feel of the longer blade? I’m contemplating just swapping a larger holder, but not sure if I should screw around with profiling a little more. I already paid over $40 for the last change. A couple more changes and I could have paid to just put new holders on.
What profile were you on when you went from tripping over your toes to 11'? Over here there was discussion about Bauer putting Quad profiles on top of the line boots:
If that was still the case with Mach, you may have been skating on a +1 pitch before profiling them to 11'. A Quad would have a shorter radius at the front than 11', so it would make sense you'd only catch your toes more, if that's what you were coming from. It sounds like you need to get the blade profiled back to neutral. I've just started experimenting with profiling and the difference from LS2 stock neutral (still more pitched than Custom+ if I'm not mistaken) to +1 from shifting the balance point back 20mm was night and day for me.
Just my two cents. I'm far from expert in profiling by MSH standards.
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Totally agree with @start_today. Try whatever you can on to avoid buying more boots that you can't use.
Personally, I felt great in a Hyp2rLite 9 Fit 1 in the store--toes feeling the cap but not smashed at all. Bauer's scanner recommended Fit 1 at just over size 10.
10.5 True sounds like you'd be swimming. I wear 9.5R Catalyst 7s and I don't think I could comfortably drop down to a 9 because of the toe box shape.
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10 hours ago, oldtrainerguy28 said:3. As way back when I said the original Edge holder needed a deeper channel IMO the vapor needs a solid outsole like the new shadow to put the player back to center if not forward. To many shooting off the heel in Vapor.
Can you elaborate a bit on the Vapor outsole and pitch?
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6 hours ago, mojo122 said:This pant is strictly a retail only pant similar to say a CCM FT6 Pro or Bauer Hyperlite. Definitely not a beefy Pro Stock pant.
Are there any pros today with slimmed down pants? I've come across someone saying Hull took a lot of padding out of his pants. I think Kovalev did the same, or just played in slimmer model Kohos until switching over to Easton, then Warrior. Kovalchuk played many of his early years in Nike retail pants.
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5 hours ago, BenBreeg said:What is a deviant roll? I think of Bauers as a 4-roll, never really thought about any subcategories.
i think I may get a pair of the CCMs, I really like them.
Bauer’s later 4-Rolls’ 4th roll from the top isn’t a rectangle, but a wide and short pentagon. The pinky side is sliced to better match the angles of the palm.
Some of Easton’s later 4-Rolls’ 3rd and 4th rolls were convex and concave, respectively. I’ve never worn a pair of Easton’s but I imagine this was worked out to better fit the fisty formation of the hand when holding a stick.
Both examples feature mostly straight rectangular rolls on the backhand, so they’re still 4-Rolls in my mind.
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I’m a bit of a snob, but when I hear 4-Roll (or 5), I see (mostly*) straight backhand rolls. If they’re another TPS HG2 clone like these from CCM, they’re slants, not rolls—the hybrid of hockey gloves.
*There’s room for a deviant roll or two as seen in Easton’s and Bauer’s 4-Rolls.
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6 hours ago, acura9927 said:I found new Bauer Supreme Comp skates on ebay. Never been used, sharpened, looks likes sat in the closet for 25 to 30 years? They are the ones that Paul Kariya skated with, down to the Black Tuuks.
Are these still safe to skate on if they were never subjected to use? I weigh 131 lbs so I would not stress the blade holder much. Or just use as a display ?
If it’s Supreme Comp 5000 (or similar new old stock top of the line) the boot should last quite a while. There’s just something iffy about the holder plastic at 30 years old. The worst that can happen is suddenly failure of the holder. I think it depends on how they were stored, but I’ve tried various boots that age or older the last couple of years and have had three or four Tuuk Custom or Custom Plus crack or shatter while I’ve been skating on them. It’s not really dangerous if you’ve got all your gear on. You might fall suddenly like you’ve lost an edge in the case of total sudden holder failure. You can just put a new holder on if that happens.
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2 hours ago, OldCY said:is there going to be a customizer sale? or just this clearance sale going on?
I think it's just to make way for their new stock production. Clear out the last batch of stock sticks, then launch the new stock line/up. Custom's made to order so they're not sitting on stock. Certainly not if it takes 2.5 - 3 months for delivery.
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16 minutes ago, Cavs019 said:All they need to do is bring back the XN10 and I’m sold.
Bring back the HG1 and HGT too.
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1 hour ago, Sniper9 said:Same experience with me. Mainly with the hyperlites feeling about 1/4 size longer bc of the different toecap.
I really liked the Hyperlite toe cap compared to previous Vapors. I felt grelt going half a size down compared to what I wear in older Vapors. Haven’t tried on newer Supremes, just wanted to add my two cents of love for the Hyperlite toe cap.
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5 hours ago, Sprungdownunder said:https://www.instagram.com/reel/C9sxyvoydke/?igsh=c2Ezdncwc3NvaXhh
True posted on insta the only difference between the 9x4 & 7x4 is steel, insoles & aesthetics.
Key differences not the only differences.
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On 6/20/2024 at 10:06 PM, Dmitrakov said:I've reached out to Base a handful of times since getting my poorly made stick delivered and I'm pretty sure my messages just get sent into the ether that is Base hockey now. Anyone looking to buy into Bases rebirth be warned.
It’s like a Dodo Phoenix out of the ashes and straight into the blade of a wind turbine. Sorry for your bad experience.
It’s sad because I really like the BC01 blade I have, and my old Dolomite still performs up to anything I’ve tried since. Their concept isn’t entirely wrong, but the execution sure is.
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11 hours ago, Sniper9 said:Lol. My bad. I meant p28 most open of the three. So p28>kuch>pasta
That’s where I thought you were going and then suddenly it got all Inception.
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16 hours ago, Sniper9 said:I found the kuch to be more closed than the p28. And the pasta looks more closed to the kuch which makes the p28 the least open of the three.
I’m confused. More closed = less open. How can P28 be more open than Kuch and Kuch more open than Pasta and P28 the least open of the three?
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3 hours ago, krisdrum said:You are taking this way better than I would be. I would have been screaming and kicking just from the delay. After that - the stick should have been perfect. The fact that it isn't, man, I'd be fuming. Sounds like they have A LOT to sort out. Very curious (as others are) to see how they respond to your feedback. If they have any business sense they'll remake the stick ASAP at no charge.
Absolutely, and free express shipping to boot.
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1 hour ago, Dmitrakov said:So my stick arrived Friday, and if I'm being honest I'm disappointed! I ordered a Base Nasty - silver, 65 flex, BC01, grip gloss, X-stiff blade, extend 2", naked blade. The stick does not have the "nasty" colorway, it is just an all black paint, a prototype looking stick that has "Base" in dark grey on both sides in the middle of the shaft - kind of cool kind of not. The stick was only extended about an inch and the end of the shaft was uneven, so I had to trim some off. That really didn't help the fact this "65 flex" feels more like a 90 flex! I Expected 12k carbon weave in the blade but I got a 3k carbon weave. And to boot this thing probably weighs 500 grams, very bottom heavy. As others have said, I'm not sure how they will stay in business if that's what I get for waiting over 5 months for a subpar product amongst sticks that come 330-350 grams nowadays. Do I ask for a return/remake? I may not even bother.
Sorry to hear you got a bummer stick at the end of your wait. If I were you, I would complain. It's not reasonable to wait as long as you did. That on its own. On top of that to have a product that doesn't match the spec or live up to reasonable expectations (if they weren't going to paint it the way it looks like it does on their relaunched website, they should have given a heads up) is just the sandy sprinkles on a shit cake. You're doing them a favor saying something. As you said, they won't stay in business long if they alienate their previously loyal customers that want to give them the benefit of the doubt. You shouldn't be out a decent amount of cash, or any amount for that matter, for a product that's honestly way below what it should be.
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I was thinking of Cobra and VHStep's aft bolt too. It's hard to tell from the pictures I've seen. The wavy shoreline of the holder where the rivets go reminds me of MLX. I know Cruikshank said they were working on boots and holders with D'Cosi, but it's hard to find anything on them. I agree, it doesn't seem like this is actually Bauer.