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  1. I have the CCM bubble (FV1) and I can’t ever go back to a cage. If I remember to wipe it off before hitting the ice I have this moment where my brain is doubting whether I have any protection in front of my face. Vision is amazing. Fog has only occurred once on the bench and it was gone in 15 seconds. It’s worth it to me to have perfect visibility and full protection, so if it gets overrun by scratches eventually I’ll certainly buy a new one.


  2. 18 hours ago, rh71el2 said:

    Since it's not an NHL requirement, I'm guessing old habits to have something there.  Mantha constantly chews on his too. 

     

    And so does one of my kids and I constantly have to get him a new one as they're req'd more or less.  I'd rather have his jaw clamp on something than not when getting hit.

     

    My takeaway from that pic is that McDavid uses a really short stick.

    McD hasn’t used short sticks in the past. It’s possibly just the angle of the camera and a rather relaxed moment with him standing almost completely upright.

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  3. 4 hours ago, Kendoc said:

    PBH I was hoping you would respond to this post…saw a lot of your comments about profiling and lifts on another thread.

    I may try the cat 9 a half size smaller, but  am concerned about the struggle of getting the fit correct.  I am currently skating Bauer vapor 2x and the boot is quite comfortable (after baking 4 times over the course of 5 months when I first got the skate) but getting beat up and the runner has a rattle.   I was hoping Bauer would make a similar lean because I am confident I can get the fit to work.  Also interested in the ribcor because of the theoretical more flexible boot.

    I don’t think my local shop makes a custom true skates.

    thanks

    If the size you tried on was too big, the size a half size down could also be too big. It sounds like a lot of people get good results buying a size that doesn't seem quite big enough until it gets baked. Baking gives a touch more room, and with such a precise fit the goal, that's all you usually need. If you go the Catalyst route, try on all the sizes around where you started: regular and wide, until you find out which ones are definitely too small. Hot spots are usually eliminated by baking True boots and can be spot treated if still present after baking.


  4. 7 hours ago, BenBreeg said:

    Good info because I also assumed that Fits 1, 2, and 3 generally correlated to Vapor, Supreme, and Nexus.

    It's still a little confusing, because they try hard to map the old fits to the new ones, for obvious reasons. It doesn't always work. John Davidson, Bauer's skate guru calls fit 1 "very very similar to a Vapor D width skate."

    This one has some visuals of the dataset and how the fit system roughly maps to it.

    It's interesting to me how they decide to show the borders between the three fits (2:05) as discrete lines, as though right around the line a particular foot is clearly meant for fit 1, but just nudged a little bit in proportions and it's destined for fit 2. A spray painted fuzzy border seems more appropriate, but maybe not as confidently convincing, as nuance isn't typically welcome in the mainstream of anything. Another interesting visual would have been plotting the actual lasts themselves. They should be representable as distinct points in that scatter plot, and then we could actually see how "very very similar" they actually are. Funnily enough, that concrete comparison isn't readily discovered.

    Since this is a True thread, it's nice to think about how these relate: True comes along with their highly adaptive molding technology, Bauer's adapts not by improving their skates' moldability but instead by creating more bins (3 instead of 2 per line) to fit as many feet as possible. True, on the other hand, has that nice moldability, and is tuning the feel of their skates, but it's not user-friendly. The struggles recently mentioned by @bl4 and @Hills in his video review remind me of my process with two pairs (first too big, then the right size) of MLX skates. I've tried a lot, and finally have come close to a very hacked solution. Most people are not patient enough to do that experimentation, and there isn't much information to help them anyway. When dropping several hundred dollars on a purchase that has a small regret window, it's no wonder people don't want to try that much. The future of skates seems really promising, but for now, there are some apparent growing pains. I have a feeling they'll be over soon, though.


  5. 27 minutes ago, birky said:

    Has anyone gone from Fit 1 Vapors to these? I've been in Vapors for 15 years, and my current pair is a 9.0R (from before the Fit 1/2/3 era, which I believe means I'd be in a Fit 1 today). Just curious for anyone's experience, as I'm very interested in trying the Catalyst skates.

    Fits 1, 2, and 3 are completely new lasts. Vapor lasts from before don’t correspond to the new system. There have been quite a few people on here posting that they don’t fit any of the new fit numbers as well as they did their old Vapors.

    I think some confusion comes from Bauer’s old 3 fits—Vapor, Supreme, and Nexus, and a lot of people thinking those were now renamed 1, 2, and 3. That would allow you to get a Vapor built on a Supreme or Nexus last, or a Supreme built on a Vapor or Nexus last, as well as their ‘native’ lasts, but instead Bauer created 3 new fits to best suit the data they collected with their 3D foot scanning app.

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  6. 1 hour ago, xstartxtodayx said:

    He also had "AS-V" skates which looked suspiciously like his trusty Jetspeeds with new graphics 🤣

    He wore AS-Vs that looked a lot closer to the retail version than anything he’s previously worn in competition; last year around all-star weekend. Maybe he’s giving that route another try.

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  7. @bl4 do you have any other tongues you could try in your boots? Trying a thicker classic felt tongue could help, as long as it's not too stiff (usually tendon protection in tongues tends to be quite stiff). You might be able to get better lace tension and heel lock without having to crank down on the tongue too much. I don't know the Cat tongue yet, but tongues with too much stiffness can impede proper forward flexion when cranked down with tight lacing.


  8. 11 hours ago, knasty said:

    Did you cut the stick at all or is it as tall as Kovalev had it? I have forever wanted to know how long his sticks were from heel to the top of the shaft. 

    I didn't cut it. We're about the same height and he used sticks about 1/2" shorter than my sticks from the 90's-early 2000's.

    I can measure it tomorrow, but I know offhand it's a 48" shaft and the blade has a longer hosel than retail standard blades did.

    His pro AK27 shafts that I have are the same length as a retail AK27, just with a different build--boxy shaft shape, tackier grip, and heavier. I only have one other pro standard blade (Easton E28) and it's the same hosel length, so I wonder if that wasn't somewhat the norm for standard pro blades.

    As a follow up, I've since gotten used to the 425g stick. I can go from either my heavy sticks (650g+) or light sticks (425g is the lightest I have), and while I feel a difference, it doesn't affect my play. My hands are a bit out of whack for dangling at the moment, but I plan on working on it 🙂


  9. 2 hours ago, PBH said:

    I think Bauer is spending too much time chasing weight and compromising mobility, durability, and protection. 

    The new Vapor protective is overpriced (for what it is) and can only provide enough protection for lower-level players or very young players (under the age of 13). 

    I can't imagine any U16AAA/U18AAA/NCAA D1/USHL player wearing that protective line. 

    Chosing money more than anything.

    I get that making money is the point of running a business, but their strategy looks to have shifted to carving out as much quality as possible to save on cost and charging even more because they think they’re the ‘Apple of hockey.’

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  10. 2 hours ago, krisdrum said:

    I like the basic felt tongue in my TF9s way better than the stock lightweight foam things

    True had a nice spongy felt tongue with very little stiffness at one point. I don’t know what they call(ed) it but it was on the True custom display model skate at the LHS a few years ago—before the railroad stripe detailing on the quarters. I’d go for something like that if possible.


  11. 15 minutes ago, PBH said:

    That might be your specific experience, but every single pair we have sold the customer has gone up in size vs the TF skates. 

    On 7/14/2022 at 2:21 PM, Asian Tomatoe said:

    I found the Catalyst skates to be the same sizing as the TF series except that there is a thicker foam piece in the front of the toe.

    I was lucky able to bake both a size 6.5 and a size 6 and, as stated by everyone else, baking really changed how the skate felt from pre-bake.

    Pre-bake, the size 6 felt way too short and and the 6.5 was the right size but post bake, my feet settle in towards back more and it was too large and wide.

    The skates, open up a lot when baked but i did notice that there is a large front pad that affects the perception of sizing.

    For reference, I'm a size 6 fit 2 in the Hyperlites and a size 6.5 fit 2 in Ultrasonics. Mach skates I only got to try on a size 6.5 fit 2 and those seemed to be perfect with a wider toe cap than the Ultrasonics.

    Didn't get to try on a size 6 to see if the wider toe cap allowed me to fit smaller but the 6.5 had my toes barely brushing the toe cap pre-bake.

    Also his -^


  12. 1 hour ago, Jbear said:

    Options with regard to kp, balance, shaft shape, blade behavior...that sorta stuff.  Don't get me wrong...it's a first world problem for sure.  As a D-man...being able to jam that square toe against the boards...noice👍🏒🥅🇨🇦😎And for whatever reason...my shots are more accurate and I can sauce for days with this pattern. I can certainly do what I do with something else...hell...I often do, but I just do everything more naturally with the Lids.

    I feel ya. When it clicks for you, it's hard to make the little adjustments all the time that you can but don't want to have to with another pattern. It really shaves time off of execution, which isn't going to affect our paychecks, but will have an impact on our enjoyment, which is why we still play. You know what you like. I can support that.

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