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strosedefence34

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  1. 2 minutes ago, Nicholas G said:

    I deal with a lot of high-level Junior teams, including WHL teams and such. I rarely see a single pair of Bauer or CCM skates make it through more than a single season. Most players go multiple seasons in a single pair of True skates. I skate about 15+ hours a week on average and my last pair of CCM/Bauer skates looked pretty beat up after 4 months. 

    Well we will agree to disagree I guess. 

    Like I said I’ve been in my skates for 3 years and can’t say they have durability issues. Aside from normal wear and tear over 3 years my skates have held up great. 


  2. 3 minutes ago, Nicholas G said:

    The older generations of skates are made different than the last few generations. The NXG, MX3, then 1S and finally 2S Pro are all made from similar materials, but in drastically different ratios. Around the time the NXG and MX3 were released manufacturers started to become obsessed with lowering of skate weight. It took CCM a little longer, moving from the RBZ/JetSpeed OG to the FT1 and now the FT2. 

    My 190s are from the same relase as the mx3s.

    From working in a shop for the last few years and seeing tons of skates come and go I don’t see a huge drop off in durability from the years to be honest. I will say I mostly see $200 price point skates to top of the line and the biggest issue I see is tendon guards ripped/ hanging on by a thread and that’s because people are lazy when taking their skates off.  

    Admittedly the only pair of true skates I have ever seen in person were the pure hockey display model so I can’t comment on how well they hold up over time. I will say with Bauer and ccm the durability seems fine. None of them exploded from a blocked shot.  

    FWIW where I live there are about 7 rinks all within an hour drive, 2 NCAA teams, 4 ACHA teams, a couple AAA teams as well as strong youth hockey programs and probably 4+ different adult leagues so I get a pretty good sample of skates id say. 


  3. 13 hours ago, Nicholas G said:

    The lightweight hollow feeling is nice until you take a shot to the foot or the skate starts to fall apart. I guess its all depends on the level of hockey you play and how often you are on the ice, but for me, nothing has been as durable as my True skates. Not even close. 

    I've been in my Supreme 190's for 3+ years now and all I have had to do was replace a few eyelets. I have taken shots off the foot and well it sucked and I felt it, but it didn't keep me off the ice nor did my skates fall apart.  I am on the ice 2-4 times a week and play in pretty high level around here.

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  4. 16 hours ago, Sniper9 said:

    I think it depends what you're looking for. My experience with true has been decent. Not great but decent. I'm happy with my skates but it took me a few mths to get used to them. Mind you I only play once a week at most so the adjustment would've been sooner if I played more regularly. 

    I'll admit their QC isn't the best. Which is unacceptable when you're paying top dollar. Even if it's only glue or cosmetic stuff. This isn't a deal breaker for me but I know it is for others. 

    The fit for me has been good. My left skate definitely fits 100% perfect. My right is 90%. But for me I broke it down to my over pronation of my right foot. When I was scanned I positioned my right foot in a way that it cause me arch to completely collapse, therefore the scan assumed I had a flat arch. Due to this the fit on my right skate isn't as dialed in, but I don't notice it when skating, only when walking on it. I may try throwing in some SP2 insoles which may help with the arch issue since it'll mold to my actual arch. 

    I think some of the issues people have fit wise may be attributed to the scans. The person doing the scans really needs to know what they are doing and the scans aren't as dummy proof as one would hope. Ccm scans seem way more fool proof as you are sitting and aren't forced to stay in a lunge position which can lead to the customer not being in their true optimal scan stance. 

    For me if and when I decide to get a new pair of trues, I will definitely be cognizant of my right foot position and make sure arch isn't collapsed. 

    I'll be interested to see how custom skates are like in about 3-4 years when I start thinking of getting new skates. 

    @Sniper9 I agree that the True scan seems odd.  I have seen videos of people getting scanned.  However, I don't think 3D scans are 100% foolproof.  I have done the Bauer scan and it told me I should be in 8.5 which is half a size too long.  I know JR said when he was testing the machine if you stood straight up and down it usually added a half size.  You even with not being 100% happy with your skates you would still go back?  Why?  I agree within the next few years as technology increases I think the scans will get better.

    8 hours ago, Nicholas G said:

    True still builds their skates from scratch and from the inside out. Bauer and CCM pick a last off a shelf and then customize the last. The way the skates are built is entirely different between True vs others. In fact, most True skates will last you many seasons compared to other brands which just aren't built with the same materials that would allow for such longevity. 

    For example, take a look at a pair of FT1 or Vapor 1X skates after a season of playing high-level hockey and then compare them to a pair of True skates. It will be clearly evident which skates are built with more durable materials. 

    @Nicholas G I have seen the 'demo' pair or whatever you want to call it at the local Pure I will admit they are tanks so I can see that being a benefit.  I do disagree though I have been in the same pair of Supreme 190s (MX3 season) for the last 3 years.  Up until this year, I was playing in the highest level of men's league in my area and I am a former ACHA player.  I am not going to say I am some sort of an elite skater or anything like that, but I think I skate pretty well.  I usually play 2-4 times a week and my 190s are still in great condition.  Maybe I am not as hard on my skates as others but as far as I am concerned the durability of my Bauers have met my expectations and I would say I should get at least another 3 years out of them.

    Also as @Leif stated are you sure Bauer and CCM are picking as last off the shelf because they are both claiming to making the skates off of a 3D print out of your foot.  I heard it was True that was picking a last that was closest to peoples scans.  I know True has more than 3 last maybe they have 1,000 I don't know so I am not saying they are closing their eyes and just hoping for the best but it is still not built off of a 3D print out of your foot.

    I know part of the issue with my original question is VH/True skates used to be the easiest way to get customs before the 3D scanning came into play.  With Bauer and CCM you needed to find a shop with a fitter that you trusted and to be honest I don't even know how the process went.  Bauer and CCM have only been building custom skates off of a 3D scan at retail for a few months so its tough to gauge them this early on all I know is what my friend has said about his custom CCMs.  I mean this thread alone has 160+ pages so there is a lot of dialogue about these skates so there is just a ton of info. 

     

    Anyone else on why they decided True over Bauer or CCM?

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  5. Just out of curiosity (I am not trying to start a war) why are people still choosing to go with True over CCM and Bauer?  Is True's custom process/ scanning that much different than the other two?

    I have a friend who had the option to go with custom True or CCM this was right before Bauer announced their custom program and he went with CCM because of all of the quality control issues with True and he is extremely happy with his CCMs.  FWIW my friend went through roughly 4 pairs of retail skates in a year nothing quite fit him perfectly he was constantly tinkering with foot booties and different things to improve the fit of his skates so it wasn't someone going with custom skates just for the hell of it he had fit issues.


  6. Bumping an old thread for information.  Rumor has it my LHS is getting one of these machines soon.  If I am reading the thread correctly it looks like it moves the balance point of your blade forward if you want that and puts a flat spot on your blade.  What it doesn't look like the machine is able to do is put a normal 9ft radius on a skate.  What @jimmy seemed to point out to me is if the profile on the skate is off to start with (ie. suppose to be a 10ft, but one blade is a 9.75 and the other is 10.25) this profiler won't be able to match them up for a 25-40 and each blade will still be off?

    TLDR:
    Can the CAG profiler put a 9ft radius on a skate?
    If the radius on both skates are off to start with can the CAG profiler match them up and make them the same?


  7. 19 hours ago, IPv6Freely said:

    I'm jealous you guys get to have them at all. Using a Mac was a job requirement for me (I would have walked out of the interview if they'd said no) so I'm one of a small handful of people at this fortune 500 company using them. Basically me, and some high level executives. 

    Thankfully they let me use my own so I don't have all the corporate junk on it. 

    I work at a University and I am their "Mac guy".  We just support our computers like an enterprise.  As far as corporate junk we obviously don't have any of that.  I like to just put the bare bones stuff on my images.  No need to over load it with crap.  If someone needs some additional they let me know.

     

    12 hours ago, the_game said:

    I don’t know when Apple ever made it easy ha. I’m glad I’m out of the world of trying to find a happy medium of business requirements/IT security and iphones, that was a nightmare.

    Thank god I don't support phones.  Only computers some people have phones the school gave them that I help them out with, but they are just basic iPhones we don't have any profiles or security limitations we push to them.  One of the benefits of working for a school and not a corporate environment.

    With all that said if anyone has suggestions for a Mac netboot server I am all ears.  I am trying to stay away for Lunix.


  8. 7 minutes ago, IPv6Freely said:

    Yeah, we have a Cox account for a bunch of it. The DVR is still in the box. So I guess not technically cord-cutters. However, we're on the lowest plan possible though just for smaller things that don't have their own individual subscriptions, like HGTV (Fixer Upper!), CBS (Star Trek!), and FX (Archer!). 

    So definitely a ways to go, but still a whole hell of a lot easier than torrenting them all (especially on private trackers where you have to worry about your ratio and such). It's just a matter of time.

    I was never a channel surfer so luckily that hasn't been an issue for me. I watch a couple specific shows, and that's it. If I don't feel like using my brain while watching TV, its either HGTV or random YouTube stuff. SlingTV looks like it could be a solution but I'll have to take a look to see if it has what I need.

    Funny that Sling has gone into streaming. I still have the ORIGINAL slingbox that connected to my mom's cable back in Canada so I could watch hockey down here back in 2006 or so. Obviously it's not useful anymore but its interesting to see where Sling has taken things over time. 

    Somebody mentioned that the price of all these streaming services adds up to more than the cost of cable. Maybe true. Depends what you buy. If you buy a cable package and add on HBO, Showtime, Starz and other stuff its expensive. Am I paying more right now for my Cox account + NHL.tv + all the various streaming services than I would have if I just had a full cable subscription? Maybe I am. But I'm also willing to do so in the hopes that these services advance (and the fact that the convenience factor of an AppleTV is huge for me). It's already come a LONG way. 

    I totally agree.  Apple made a huge improvement with the 4th gen apple tv.  Like I stated earlier i use my dads cable login for most of the stuff (HGTV is one of them the wife and I are pretty sad fixer upper is going away).  I also use my brothers netflix account.  It's not that the wife and I can't afford the $10 a month it's more why should we if someone is offering it to us for free.  Realistically the only thing I pay for besides the internet is NHL.  We have prime and our tv supports prime but i'm waiting for the prime app.  We don't have much interest in hulu.  If everything went away I would just subscribe to sling.  Its cheaper than a cable plan anyway.


  9. 1 hour ago, IPv6Freely said:

    You know the AppleTV does this, right? 

     

    1 hour ago, psulion22 said:

    It does?  I asked the people at the Apple Store and they said not yet.

    As a former Apple employee, I can tell you about 85% of the people on the floor don't know anything.  Yes Apple TV does have the TV app and it will remember shows you watch on primetime and Netflix etc and pull them up.  I was like you where I would pop on the guide check what was on and scroll until I found something.  Once I cut the cord I had to find a different way of doing this.  Now, for the most part, I know when I come home from work what is going to be on each app at that time.  On the weekends is usually when I am searching for something.  As of late though I have been working on my house so no time to watch tv on the weekends.  Its an adjustment for sure, but it's nice not having that $200 a month bill.  I would try looking into SlingTV its almost like baby steps into cutting the cord.  We were going to do that until we realized I could just use my dad's login for everything.  I also like the options of getting the East and West time zones on the different apps.


  10. I think as more and more people are cutting the cord the price of internet services will go up since the cable companies need to get theirs, and people need internet in this day.  One thing I would like to see is something similar to sling tv except I get to choose which channels I want.  I can see it being a flat fee of say $20 a month for 5 networks add an extra few bucks for premium cable.  Realistically people with cable watch the same 5-10 channels and the rest is all just there and unneeded.  Or the other thing that might happen is as internet service prices go up they may include an option for logging into the network streams like they offer now.  

    I cut the cord a few years ago, but I cheated since my Dad can't live without 1,000 channels I have a login to his Verizon FiOS account and still can watch live tv through various Apple TV apps.  With that being said I could use MSG GO to watch the Islanders, Devils and Rangers.  I also log into NBCSN.  I still choose to pay for the NHL package for the sear convenience of having the NHL TV app on my Apple TV.  Maybe if MSG GO comes out with an app for the Apple TV I won't renew my NHL package.  I do like being able to watch random games though.  I also agree blackouts in 2017 are dumb.  I'd gladly pay an extra few dollars for the NHL package if it excluded all blackouts including things on NBCSN and NHL Network.


  11. Just now, psulion22 said:

    I'm similarly confused by this.

    OP- If you've played with this same group of people for 4 years, then why didn't you know that you don't do that in this group?  And if it's never come up, then why did the guy who runs it say WE don't do that?  If everyone is playing the same way as you were, then surely it would have happened before.  It doesn't mesh.  The bottom line is that you know that you're a dick and did something that group doesn't want, and looking on here for us to tell you how wrong they are.  You're continually trying to justify it, but everyone else paying at the same speed an intensity as you seem to avoid it.  Even if they didn't care doesn't mean that they don't know not to do it.  It's their ice, their rules.  If the guy who runs it tells you that you're in the wrong, you're in the wrong.  Period.

    That's a good point.  However, this sort of thing does happen on a lot of plays when the puck is loose.  As I stated earlier Goalie B said he didn't have an issue with the play and no other players saw an issue with the play.  People have done a lot worse than what I tried last night and haven't been scolded.  Perhaps since the guy who runs it is a friend felt like he could make an example out of me and I wouldn't take it personal with him as other players might and may not return.  I have been playing with them for 4 years but admittedly I may miss a skate here or there so maybe the first time something like this happened I missed it and never got the memo.  Again sorry to the goalies I offended I won't let it happen again. 


  12. Funny thing is I was a lacrosse goalie for most of my life never got into hockey goalie and I have sympathy for hockey goalies.  I had a protective circle around me that no one could enter.  Hockey goalies have some blue paint that doesn't mean anything unless you make contact with the goalie.  I still wore less padding though :ph34r:  


  13. Just now, IPv6Freely said:

    If your pickup has a different set of rules from the average pickup, then why ask us if you were in the wrong? We can't answer that ;) 

    That's very true.  I was looking for an outsider perspective I guess.  I swear I'm not a bad guy.  I don't run goalies.  I haven't been in a fight since way back when it "mattered" (high school hockey).  I was trying to make an honest play on a loose puck that if we had refs the play would not have been blown dead... Please don't break my thumbs and leave the horse heads out of my bed thank you.


  14. 7 minutes ago, psulion22 said:

    Let me guess, you always "play to the whistle" too.  

    No, if the goalie has it I see no need to wack at it.  If its loose puck in the crease area sure I will try to poke it free for another shot or poke it in during a game or a pickup where its warranted and other players are making similar plays.  I didn't take a wack at the puck it was a simple poke.

     

    Like I said earlier I was the dick I will slow it down for my Monday night skate.  Sorry to all the goalies I offended with my post.


  15. 4 minutes ago, chippa13 said:

    There's a reason why in the beer league/pick up hockey circle that names like "Johnny Try Hard" and "Charlie Hustle" aren't compliments.

    I just try to emulate the pace of the pickup.  Like I said this is a private skate with the same people for the last 4 years.  Everyone in this skate is a Johnny Try Hard if I was to slack off it wouldn't be as fun for me or the other players (this goalie excluded).  Now if I go to a public pick up I don't play nearly as hard as I do on Monday nights.  


  16. 12 minutes ago, IPv6Freely said:

    I'm going to sound like a dick when I say this but I can't think of a better way to put it that wouldn't require us going in circles. That move screams "try-hard", and in my experience try-hard moves don't go over well in pickup. 

    Now if that happens to me in our pickups, what generally happens is the guy says "sorry goalie, saw the puck loose" which will almost always get a "no worries, all good" response. 

    You don't sound like a dick.  It was a try-hard move because this is a game paced private pick up.  It is full of 20 or so try-hards.  I can go to a "normal" pick up and I would never rush the net like I did last night.  And to be honest a sorry goalie from this goalie would not get a "no worries response" id get a laundry list of reasons why that was the worst thing I could possibly do to them.  This goalie tends to be a bit of a crier.  Some rushing down the wing and made a move to more of a scoring position beamed them in the head last week with a wrister and apologized and the goalie went off on them as to why they should shoot lower.  

    I should also say there have been similar situations where the puck was loose in the crease and Goalie B has been scrambling trying to cover it and people have taken wacks at it as well with no one saying anything.  I think I was just the one to get caught.  Oh well.


  17. 3 minutes ago, IPv6Freely said:

    Still think you're wrong, sorry. And apparently they do too, which is the only thing that matters. 

    That's fair thanks for the perspective.  Not trying to add fuel to the fire the other goalie thought the play was fine I will give Goalie A benefit of the doubt since it was them and Goalie B was at the other end of the ice.  Other players on the ice didn't see an issue with it except for the guy who runs the pickup.  Just frustrating. 

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