KOR Shift 1 and 2

[Hockeydog 8]

Thanks! I did download the size chart and it does show an 8.5 would be best.

How is the depth on the Kor Shift 1 vs the Stealth S7? Also how much lower cut is the Shift1 than the Stealth? Thanks !!!

[hooked 0]

Now, one of the reasons they changed their manufacturing facility was their intention to improve and introduce new technology into the skate.

They explained to me that the composite molding process used in China is a "messy", difficult to control, ugly process. The final weight on a base could vary up to 50 grams. Now in Mexico, they have developed a more controlled process, that not only allows them to control weight to a +/- 5gr tolerance, but they have the possibility of designing the base to different flex, something to do with fiber orientation on the material that allows them to do that. That feature wasn't in the Shift 1's.

At what point should the difference in weight between your right and left skate be a concern? Is a difference of 1.25 ounces on a size 7 worth trying to balance? It works out to an overall 4% difference. The CCM and Eastons that I have were within +/- a tenth of an ounce for each pair.

[Spreedizzle 1]

Fit, heel lock, and comfort are the most important aspects of skate fitment. An ounce or two isn't something that would sway me in a different direction. I'd pay more attention to the mentioned aspects and find the ideal skate.

[thekingsingh 0]

Where would the Shift 1 and Shift 2 sit in terms of forefoot width? I have a very wide forefoot and would like to know how the Kors fall along the following scale, from least wide to most wide:

RBK 5/7/9K (in E) -> Easton Synergy (in W) -> Nike Flexlite (in EE).

From the thread, I've seen that Shift 2 is wider, but not sure where it sits in this continuum. I've noticed that it only seems available in D width, but I wonder how wide a foot it can accommodate after its baking process.

Forgive me if this question has been addressed. I couldn't seem to find the answer from scrolling through this thread.

[automorph 0]

Man sizing these skates is a real pain..........

Shift 1 chart is strange because my shoe size is 8, new bauer/easton 6.5 , old mission 8.

The chart shows mission is 9, bauer 7 and easton 6.5 for size 8 shoe.

Then I called Kor and the person says buy 8.5-9 ????

On the board everyone is saying .5 down from shoe???

For $159 I am giving it a shot, ordered 7.5

Who is right???

[chilimax21 0]

Where would the Shift 1 and Shift 2 sit in terms of forefoot width? I have a very wide forefoot and would like to know how the Kors fall along the following scale, from least wide to most wide:

RBK 5/7/9K (in E) -> Easton Synergy (in W) -> Nike Flexlite (in EE).

From the thread, I've seen that Shift 2 is wider, but not sure where it sits in this continuum. I've noticed that it only seems available in D width, but I wonder how wide a foot it can accommodate after its baking process.

Forgive me if this question has been addressed. I couldn't seem to find the answer from scrolling through this thread.

I have a wide forefoot and had an 8W in Easton S15's before these. They were tight in the toe area. These actually had more room in the toe area than the S15's. When you bake them, you can mold the outside of the boot with your hands to form to your feet.

[BreakingParadigms 0]

Where would the Shift 1 and Shift 2 sit in terms of forefoot width? I have a very wide forefoot and would like to know how the Kors fall along the following scale, from least wide to most wide:

RBK 5/7/9K (in E) -> Easton Synergy (in W) -> Nike Flexlite (in EE).

From the thread, I've seen that Shift 2 is wider, but not sure where it sits in this continuum. I've noticed that it only seems available in D width, but I wonder how wide a foot it can accommodate after its baking process.

Forgive me if this question has been addressed. I couldn't seem to find the answer from scrolling through this thread.

Shift 2's are more about an E, but are labeled as D because of the thermoforming process, it fits perfect either for D, E or EE. The toe cap area is the only part of the skate that wont change with baking.

Shift 1's are a true D.

[Aussie Joe 0]

Man sizing these skates is a real pain..........

Shift 1 chart is strange because my shoe size is 8, new bauer/easton 6.5 , old mission 8.

The chart shows mission is 9, bauer 7 and easton 6.5 for size 8 shoe.

Then I called Kor and the person says buy 8.5-9 ????

On the board everyone is saying .5 down from shoe???

For $159 I am giving it a shot, ordered 7.5

Who is right???

I just picked up the KOR1's myself, they are due to arrive any minute. Im wondering if my educated guess (Kor chart + MSH'ers help) of 9.5 (shoe 10) was right. Once I get them I'll pull out the foot beds and see.

[Chadd 916]

Man sizing these skates is a real pain..........

Shift 1 chart is strange because my shoe size is 8, new bauer/easton 6.5 , old mission 8.

The chart shows mission is 9, bauer 7 and easton 6.5 for size 8 shoe.

Then I called Kor and the person says buy 8.5-9 ????

On the board everyone is saying .5 down from shoe???

For $159 I am giving it a shot, ordered 7.5

Who is right???

I just picked up the KOR1's myself, they are due to arrive any minute. Im wondering if my educated guess (Kor chart + MSH'ers help) of 9.5 (shoe 10) was right. Once I get them I'll pull out the foot beds and see.

The footbeds don't come out of the shift 1s

[Aussie Joe 0]

Are they locked to the carb base? How do you dry them then?

[joshy207 15]

The "footbed" on a Shift 1 is the same material as the liner. They are sewn together. Just make sure you loosen your laces and pull the tongues out when you air them out.

[Aussie Joe 0]

Understood.

The fact that these are "low cut", does that mean they are easier to dry or harder?

[schrempsky 0]

the cut of the boot should not affect how quickly they dry, as the eastons are a higher cut boot, and dry out very quickly. as long as you unlace them nice and loose, and pull the tongues out they should dry very nicely, and more quickly than leaving them laced and tongues in.

[Chadd 916]

Understood.

The fact that these are "low cut", does that mean they are easier to dry or harder?

They will dry out fairly well as they are but Kor did make a drying product that helped out the process. Even something as simple as putting a little newspaper in there will work wonders at pulling out the moisture.

[Aussie Joe 0]

Usually my skates are left in the Garage with no real air movement to dry. I take it just popping abit of scrunched up newspaper in the toe for eg will help take up the moisture?

The temp in there atm gets between 5.C and 16.C

[fatwabbit 93]

newspaper works great.. let it soak up most of teh moisture.

Worked out well for me back in the day... played outdoors during those tournaments, and when it rain the organisers just kept the tourny going. Was pretty fun, but did shit to your gear.

[Spreedizzle 1]

I still haven't found anything better than my convection boot dryer that I have. $18 at a sporting goods store and it works great on skates, boots, gloves, etc etc.

[Ivan 1]

I got a pair of Kors 1 for a friend overseas. Skates fit him fine size-wise. He had them baked and skated in them for the first time. One of the boots is giving him a bleeding sore on the inner side. I inspected both skates. It looks like the seam on the inner side of the quarter under the liner in the problem boot is doing that. The other boot's underliner seam is smooth, no roughness at all. Is there anything that could be done about the problem? I don't think baking them again will fix the problem.

[Chadd 916]

I got a pair of Kors 1 for a friend overseas. Skates fit him fine size-wise. He had them baked and skated in them for the first time. One of the boots is giving him a bleeding sore on the inner side. I inspected both skates. It looks like the seam on the inner side of the quarter under the liner in the problem boot is doing that. The other boot's underliner seam is smooth, no roughness at all. Is there anything that could be done about the problem? I don't think baking them again will fix the problem.

Maybe a piece of electrical tape over the seam?

[Ivan 1]

I got a pair of Kors 1 for a friend overseas. Skates fit him fine size-wise. He had them baked and skated in them for the first time. One of the boots is giving him a bleeding sore on the inner side. I inspected both skates. It looks like the seam on the inner side of the quarter under the liner in the problem boot is doing that. The other boot's underliner seam is smooth, no roughness at all. Is there anything that could be done about the problem? I don't think baking them again will fix the problem.

Maybe a piece of electrical tape over the seam?

Thank you, Chadd, yeah, we already discussed that with him. But he wants something better. I just can't see how the seam itself could be fixed. Sending them back for an exchange might work but also would be very cost prohibitive. The friend claims that "there must be no gel over the problem seam". To me it feels that the problem seam is just a bit rough. I am not sure that HG customer service would justify as a good reason for an exchange even if we sent them back. He loves the skates though and feels very unique as no one else has Kors here.

If anyone has experienced a similar problem with Kors, please let me know, especially if you've been able to overcome it. Thanks.

[Chadd 916]

I got a pair of Kors 1 for a friend overseas. Skates fit him fine size-wise. He had them baked and skated in them for the first time. One of the boots is giving him a bleeding sore on the inner side. I inspected both skates. It looks like the seam on the inner side of the quarter under the liner in the problem boot is doing that. The other boot's underliner seam is smooth, no roughness at all. Is there anything that could be done about the problem? I don't think baking them again will fix the problem.

Maybe a piece of electrical tape over the seam?

Thank you, Chadd, yeah, we already discussed that with him. But he wants something better. I just can't see how the seam itself could be fixed. Sending them back for an exchange might work but also would be very cost prohibitive. The friend claims that "there must be no gel over the problem seam". To me it feels that the problem seam is just a bit rough. I am not sure that HG customer service would justify as a good reason for an exchange even if we sent them back. He loves the skates though and feels very unique as no one else has Kors here.

If anyone has experienced a similar problem with Kors, please let me know, especially if you've been able to overcome it. Thanks.

The only fix is to cover it. Either he accepts that or he he sends them back.

[Ivan 1]

Yeah, I agree. Unless I find a place where they do laproscopic surrgery on skate boots:)

[Aussie Joe 0]

I just received the Kors. WOW. These are narly looking skates. 2 quick questions but. The toungue is SERIOUSLY stiff, I take it, it moves and conforms once baked? Also the hex key they sent me for the Pitch frames is too big and I can't adjust the blades. Will the Bauer hex key work?

[Chadd 916]

I just received the Kors. WOW. These are narly looking skates. 2 quick questions but. The toungue is SERIOUSLY stiff, I take it, it moves and conforms once baked? Also the hex key they sent me for the Pitch frames is too big and I can't adjust the blades. Will the Bauer hex key work?

It's not a hex key, it's a robertson screw driver. A number #2 I believe.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robertson_screwdriver

[Keith 0]

Anyone ever have a problem with the screw anchors not seating properly? Outer left skate in the front is driving me nuts.