Therma Blade

[Ti-girl 0]

Heard a rumour that Marty Reasoner was trying them out.

*shrug*

[Law Goalie 147]

Did JR ever actually receive his trial pair?

[Wolfpack_1986 147]

of course you know someone is going to have the game of their life and therma blade is going to take credit. kinda like datsyuk and the 9ko.

[Law Goalie 147]

I eagerly await Marty Reasoner's 10-point night.

[mgchockey 0]

Another article about NHL'ers testing out the thermablade.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/news?slug=ap-h...p&type=lgns

[DarkStar50 679]

I eagerly await Marty Reasoner's 10-point night.

That will only happen if Dave "Mooner" Reece is in net again. ;)

[LkptTiger 1]

I just can't help but think that this increase in the "thickness of the water layer between the blade and the ice" has to have an adverse effect on tight turns and cornering. If the blades are sitting on top of a film of water, doesn't this mean that there is less blade "in" the ice? If that's the case, doesn't that mean that there is going to be less stability on tight cuts and crossovers? I would think that something like this would lead to more "blown tires" than anything else.

Could someone explain to me why this isn't the case? I feel retarded here, but I'm just sitting here thinking "quicker acceleration is great, but what's the point if you can't change direction effectively?". I hope I'm wrong.

[Jordan 13]

Most of the anecdotal evidence from testers suggests the opposite effect..most of them report that the baldes turn better than a conventional blade. There are now videos on the site showing tight turns and improvement etc.

My guess is that when you are gliding on a flat blade, the water film builds up under the hollow, contained by the two edges of the blade. Sort of like a hydroplaning effect, except of course you don't lose control as the two edges of your blade are in contact with the ice and provide tracking.

If this is correct, and the additional water created by Thermablades has provided some additional lift (thus reducing drag), it likely gets released as the blade tips over to make a turn. I suspect that the improvement in turning (if it really exists) would come from either, a) increased entry speed, "b)" a slower disipation of the "lift effect" or c) increased confidence in the blade due to improved "feel"; or a combination of these effects.

Certainly, this thing is gaining momentum and it will be interesting to follow. They had a big launch at the Hockey Hall of Fame yesterday and they put up a much improved website at the same time. They seem to have NHL interested due to Gretzky.

[Wolfpack_1986 147]

I just can't help but think that this increase in the "thickness of the water layer between the blade and the ice" has to have an adverse effect on tight turns and cornering. If the blades are sitting on top of a film of water, doesn't this mean that there is less blade "in" the ice? If that's the case, doesn't that mean that there is going to be less stability on tight cuts and crossovers? I would think that something like this would lead to more "blown tires" than anything else.

Could someone explain to me why this isn't the case? I feel retarded here, but I'm just sitting here thinking "quicker acceleration is great, but what's the point if you can't change direction effectively?". I hope I'm wrong.

well, you see the whole water layer thing only really makes sense when you're nice and level... skating is really complicated, just because ice is really complicated. I'd be hesitant to freely accept quite a bit of what's said about the mechanics of it all at the interface level...

[chk hrd 164]

Here is a link that explains one of the theories on how blades work

http://www.exploratorium.edu/hockey/skating1.html

[Havok19 0]

Can't wait to hear about someone who will use it here.The credibility from a seller of the product is not has good and partial as someone who really test it.

[djinferno 2]

well its coming soon to the nhl is it's in the gallery section...

http://images.sportsline.com/u/ap/photos/F...20_1024x768.jpg

[JR Boucicaut 3765]

Can't wait to hear about someone who will use it here.The credibility from a seller of the product is not has good and partial as someone who really test it.

Should have mine any day now.

How soon does NBH sue them for the shape? Tuuk's patent includes the "C" shape between the towers.

[Law Goalie 147]

Wow - I thought the Tuuk patent only covered the blade-locking mechanism. C-shaped towers is one hell of a broad standard -- how'd Mission sneak the Pitch through?

[JR Boucicaut 3765]

PMd

[McCracken 0]

I thought the overall patent on the Tuuk expired a few years ago....

[Law Goalie 147]

You'd think with $5 million in R&D, he might have realised his invention was potentially infringing...

[McCracken 0]

You'd think with $5 million in R&D, he might have realised his invention was infringing...

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We don't know that yet do we??

[Law Goalie 147]

If the Tuuk patent is *that* broad, he's in serious trouble. I have, however, edited my original post for clarity.

My point was simply that with something as superfluous as the ornamental design of the holder at issue, he's done himself no favors by advancing the product this close to market without investigating that potential. This is typically a pretty early-days sort of concern, in my understanding, though as should be obvious I am not party to the specifics of this invention.

[JR Boucicaut 3765]

Other mfgrs adapted...look at RBK/Easton/Graf...

[Shark#81 0]

CCM/Easton/RBK will want to have a distinct looking blade to distinguish their brand.

The UmaTherma blade's target is tuuk users, since they hold the largest share (correct??). So looking close to the tuuk, but different enough to be able to avoid triggering/being able to defend a legal action against would be the ticket.

Tip - install only one and then go skate. With one say Tuuk and one heater you be able to tell the difference in glide etc. Less work if you need to revert back too.

It is written that the Q-Blade project is around $500K. I believe that number is about right seeing the product, which features Formula 1 levels of engineering, materials and assembly.

Opinion/speculation: It must be that the $5M quoted in the Thermablade has operating costs and expenses such as advertising and endorsement fees promised.

Thrasha#81

[atomicpunk5150 2]

www.hockeybuzz.com even picked up on thermablades today. I guess they are interviewing the TB president.

More hype from the home of hype. Eklund is the biggest fraud in hockey, but his site is now pretty legit with many top tv & print guys.

[Wolfpack_1986 147]

this makes me hurrrrrrrt

[Steve123 0]

I apologize in advance but I'm to lazy to read all 9 pages. Can you put therma blades onto a tuuk holder?

[mack 44]

Sure you can, go crazy, put them on everything.