Shallow radius of hollow depth

[nieminen24 0]

http://www.owatonna.k12.mn.us/classroom/oh...0Sharpening.htm

Written by former NHL'er Jim Johnson. Watching him skate backwards was like watching a power skating clinic in the early 90s. Hopefully the link works, my computer skills are marginal.

[BigDipper 0]

Nice read...I'll take advice from someone who knows what they're talking about any day.

[Portlandman 0]

That was very interesting. I have been skating on a 1/2 for awhile now and I think I might start experimenting with a shallower hollow.

[WhiskeyTango19 0]

Hmmmm... I've been on a 7/16. I'm gonna switch it up to a 3/4 and see how it goes.

[jimmy 194]

Hmmmm... I've been on a 7/16. I'm gonna switch it up to a 3/4 and see how it goes.

I don't recommend you jump right from 7/16 to 3/4. The change is too dramatic a step and you will be slipping all over the place. You have to give your body mechanics time to adjust. Best way to get to 3/4 is in steps, first 1/2, then 9/16, 5/8, 11/16, then 3/4, pausing for a week or two between the increments. Slow, small changes are easy and you will barely notice the change.

[Jarick 5]

I went from 3/8 to 1/2, and it took me a few ice times to get used to it. I went back to 3/8 for a couple ice times, then back to 1/2 permanently. I plan on moving to 5/8 after this season (hopefully I'll be about 15 pounds lighter than when I started on 1/2).

[ktang 34]

Are there certain sharpening setups that allow hollows shallower than 1 1/4"? That seems to be the shallowest limit here, but most LHS use Dupliskate sharpeners.

[Neal 41]

I'm curious about this comment Mr. Johnson makes: "There is one disadvantage to the flatter hollow and that is the player may have to sharpen their skates a little bit more because even if they get a small nick in the middle of the blade it might need to be resharpened."

Why would this be? I skate on a 3/4" hollow and one of the side benefits for me has been how rarely I need to get my skates sharpened.

[Rustpot 1]

He's saying a nick is going to take 5-6 passes to get past since you're sharpening so little each pass. Shallow hollow will last longer and be quicker to resharpen unless there's damage to the skate. If it's severe, crossgrinder comes in where as a person on 1/4" could just make 3 passes and be good.

[DBLMINR 0]

good to know, i think i will try a diffrent cut now

[ahearn10 0]

Ive gone from 3/8 to 7/16, I tried a 1/2 but it felt like I was losing my edge and/or sliding more. I only gave it a few tries. I weigh 225 so according to this article I am more suited towards a shallower hollow. I think I will give 1/2 another try though.

[Shark#81 0]

The hollow you run is really dependent on quite a few things:

Rocker

Pitch

Ice Temp

Weight

I have a computer program that spits out suggested hollows. Calcs said I should move higher, so I did. I ran 7/8's for a shinny session and last nite's game. Felt great, loved it. I might even try 1". Very smooth, and the skates are easy to handle.

[krwwc6 0]

The hollow you run is really dependent on quite a few things:

Rocker

Pitch

Ice Temp

Weight

I have a computer program that spits out suggested hollows. Calcs said I should move higher, so I did. I ran 7/8's for a shinny session and last nite's game. Felt great, loved it. I might even try 1". Very smooth, and the skates are easy to handle.

how much does hollow make up for ice temp?

do higher temps mean a shallower hollow? what is the relation?

thanks.

[JJStripes 1]

if the ice temp is higher (softer ice) then you want a higher hollow (flatter and less sharp). Ice hardness is definitely is worth considering.

[lampliter87 8]

Interesting point. I skated on a 1/2 for years, now that I'm at a new rink with softer ice I'm going to have to change it. Any ideas on what I should change to?

[jere26 5]

Interesting point. I skated on a 1/2 for years, now that I'm at a new rink with softer ice I'm going to have to change it. Any ideas on what I should change to?

Go incrementally shallower until you get good results. Start at 9/16 and then move on to 5/8.

[lampliter87 8]

Interesting point. I skated on a 1/2 for years, now that I'm at a new rink with softer ice I'm going to have to change it. Any ideas on what I should change to?

Go incrementally shallower until you get good results. Start at 9/16 and then move on to 5/8.

thanks man ill have a chat with the guy who sharpens my skates next time i see him

[AHF 1]

Here's another good read regarding skate sharpenings:

http://www.blademaster.ca/Skate_Sharpening_Tips.pdf

On the second page, you have a small listing of what players like;

Six-time Stanley Cup winner Mark Messier, whose playing weight was around 205 pounds, used a 1-inch hollow when he played for the Oilers. Messier, a heavier power forward had long, fluid strides. He didn’t need as much hollow because he liked to glide on the top of the ice. Less hollow, more

glide. Current Oiler George Laraque, who tips the scale at 250 pounds, also uses a flat hollow at 1 inch. Norris Trophy winning defenseman Chris Pronger weighs 215 pounds. and prefers a 7/8th hollow. Colorado Avalanche player and Canadian Olympian Joe Sakic skates with a 5/8 inch hollow, which may seem quite flat for a smaller player. On the other hand 215-pound Jarome Iginla, a Mark Messier-style player, skates with a 1/2 inch hollow, which may seem quite deep for a player of his weight. These players all require a different hollow based on their unique skating needs and playing style.

[Chadd 916]

All of this is going to be outdated soon.

[krwwc6 0]

All of this is going to be outdated soon.

Because of thermablade?

I'm confused. . .

[Chadd 916]

All of this is going to be outdated soon.

Because of thermablade?

No

[jimmy 194]

You have to be more specific, what's outdated? Hollows? I've heard of a new skate that rides on a film of air, kind of like a hovercraft, could that be what you are talking about, no hollows? <_<

[Chadd 916]

You have to be more specific, what's outdated? Hollows? I've heard of a new skate that rides on a film of air, kind of like a hovercraft, could that be what you are talking about, no hollows? <_<

I'd love to be more specific, but I can't right now.

[krwwc6 0]

You have to be more specific, what's outdated? Hollows? I've heard of a new skate that rides on a film of air, kind of like a hovercraft, could that be what you are talking about, no hollows? <_<

I'd love to be more specific, but I can't right now.

I don't know if both of you are giving me crap because I have no idea what you're talking about or if jimmy really doesn't know either.

I did the search, nothing came up. . . what do I do now?

[JR Boucicaut 3804]

It's going to be something new that will be truly different. It'll change the sharpening world. Stay tuned.