Adult League Morons

[Zamboni 6]

http://www.thestar.com/News/GTA/article/431355

We've all played with guys that think playing tough in beer leagues will get them to the show.....thought you guys would enjoy reading this court's decision.

[Spreedizzle 1]

Good read, and I was actually glad to see such a litigation come to a close like that. Things of that nature simply have no place in beer league hockey.

[eric42434224 1]

So the guy punched him in the visor with a gloved hand, and the visor knocked the teeth out? Another example that illustrates why I wear a full cage. You never know what kind of childish moron with an anger problem you may be playing against. Good to see really bad behavoir is punished and justice served. Also, too funny how they tell the world that he was 26 and living at home with Mommy and Daddy. LOL

[chk hrd 164]

So the guy punched him in the visor with a gloved hand, and the visor knocked the teeth out? Another example that illustrates why I wear a full cage. You never know what kind of childish moron with an anger problem you may be playing against. Good to see really bad behavoir is punished and justice served. Also, too funny how they tell the world that he was 26 and living at home with Mommy and Daddy. LOL

I agree, to many idiots who can't control themselves, thier sticks or shots. I'll trade taking "you think your tough because you got a cage on" taunts for keeping my teeth, jaw, eyes, etc. Just what I want some dipshit causing me to miss work because he could contol himself.

[eric42434224 1]

I'll trade taking "you think your tough because you got a cage on" taunts for keeping my teeth, jaw, eyes, etc.

This I do not understand. Why would anyone taunt someone wearing a full cage as being "tough"?

It seems to me that if someone wanted to appear "tough" they wouldnt wear a cage. I think it is moronic either way, as being "tough" has nothing to do with a cage. Perhaps it is that I play in a no-check leage and pick-up, but the only reason I wear a cage is that I value my eyesight, teeth, and general facial appearance over looking or acting "tough". Silly me, right? Lets be real here...we are talking adult beer league hockey. The vision benefit from a visor, or helmet only, is negligible at best. The only reason one wears it at this level, is because they think it is cool, are ignorant of the risks, or truly feel that they are so much of a better c2 player as their "vision" so much better. Sure it is.... :lol:

At beer league/Adult league/pick-up there really isnt a truly rational reason not to wear a full cage. Of course it is a choice, but youre only fooling yourself if one thinks there is a truly legitimate reason at these levels.

"Tough" wearing a cage? No. Cool...perhaps. Sensible, rational, and smart for sure.

[mrusse01 0]

I'll trade taking "you think your tough because you got a cage on" taunts for keeping my teeth, jaw, eyes, etc.

This I do not understand. Why would anyone taunt someone wearing a full cage as being "tough"?

It seems to me that if someone wanted to appear "tough" they wouldnt wear a cage. I think it is moronic either way, as being "tough" has nothing to do with a cage. Perhaps it is that I play in a no-check leage and pick-up, but the only reason I wear a cage is that I value my eyesight, teeth, and general facial appearance over looking or acting "tough". Silly me, right? Lets be real here...we are talking adult beer league hockey. The vision benefit from a visor, or helmet only, is negligible at best. The only reason one wears it at this level, is because they think it is cool, are ignorant of the risks, or truly feel that they are so much of a better c2 player as their "vision" so much better. Sure it is.... :lol:

At beer league/Adult league/pick-up there really isnt a truly rational reason not to wear a full cage. Of course it is a choice, but youre only fooling yourself if one thinks there is a truly legitimate reason at these levels.

"Tough" wearing a cage? No. Cool...perhaps. Sensible, rational, and smart for sure.

It was sarcastic.

You are a 'tough guy' if you go around with a cage, getting your hands/sticks up in people's faces, and generally being a douche bag...and 99% of the time said douche bag would act a lot differently if his head wasn't protected by a steel cage.

I have no problem at all with people wearing a cage, but if you do, don't act like a dick especially after the whistle, and keep your mouth shut when the inevitable scrums occur from time to time.

[eric42434224 1]

It was sarcastic.

Ahhhh....I see.

You are a 'tough guy' if you go around with a cage, getting your hands/sticks up in people's faces, and generally being a douche bag...and 99% of the time said douche bag would act a lot differently if he wasn't protected by a steel cage around his face.

Yes, those douchbags probably wouldnt be so tough without the cage.

[YJWOLF 0]

Nice read, and glad to see a fair ruling.

I play beer league with no cage or visor. 4 weeks ago i collided with a player. My face wtih his cage. Split my lip open and fat for a good week. Didnt lose any teeth and added scar tissue to an already scarred lip.

I still dont wear a cage. Most do about 25% dont. personal preference really.

[tro 4]

It was sarcastic.

You are a 'tough guy' if you go around with a cage, getting your hands/sticks up in people's faces, and generally being a douche bag...and 99% of the time said douche bag would act a lot differently if his head wasn't protected by a steel cage.

I have no problem at all with people wearing a cage, but if you do, don't act like a dick especially after the whistle, and keep your mouth shut when the inevitable scrums occur from time to time.

Judgements like this make me think twice some times when the temper flares,(some times). And not to get into a whole full cage vs visor thing, but I used to wear a full cage and go around like an ass and get in fights if someone gave me a shot, I was one of the leaders in penalty minutes. Went to a visor and now I might get into the odd fight/scrum, if there is real reason.

All to often I see guys with cages throwing punches in little scrums because they have the protection. If you have an cage don't throw punches and if you do, I hope you get what happened to me, when a guy pulled of my cage and gave me one right in the teeth, it was a good lesson.

[Jarick 5]

Does jawing or yapping even have a place in adult hockey? Nobody's getting paid or getting scouted. I understand there's a certain loss of respect if you're running your mouth wearing a full cage, but it's beer league for cripes sake. Is it a part of the game at all skill levels and ages, or is it just regular guys trying to be tough?

[Reaper 0]

Did anyone check out the size differential between the assailant and the victim?

Assailant - Dunn 5'10", 155lbs. age 26

Victim - Leonard 6', 285lbs. age 35

Anyone else think that is a matter of "small man syndrome?" I've had it happen to me where I'm playing against a much smaller opposition where they get frustrated because I'm hard to move or they simply feel intimidated by my size.

For instance, I was up against a guy who was a foot shorter and probably half my weight. We were both on the wing for a faceoff. The puck drops and the guy skates over my stick (which was on the ice) without looking and goes flying (oh, the explosive power of a stick not moving while being held on the ice. ) He proceeds to scream bloody murder about me "gooning it up" and follows me around the rest of the game with a wide of assortment of slashes, trips and slewfoots. The ref called him on a trip on me late in the game and the guy practically drops the gloves with me because he's so outraged.

Did I mention that they beat us 14-3 and that we were never closer to them than three goals for the entire game? Yeah, he was a real good sport. Those kind of guys make me silently wish they'd get their skate caught in a rut while going full speed.

[eric42434224 1]

Sorry in advance if anyone gets offended, but I dont see how wearing a cage makes anyone act like an ass and get in fights. Just like how wearing a visor makes you less likely to act like an ass and fight.

You act like an ass if you are an ass. If you acted like an ass and fought with a cage, and then stopped because you wear a visor now and are scared to get hurt, that just makes you an ass that is scared to get hurt. Nothing personal, but it is a personality and sportsmanship issue...not an equipment issue. JMHO

[dangle 0]

She awarded Leonard $7,547.46 to cover dental work, $10,000 for pain and suffering and $3,000 in "aggravated damages" to compensate for the nature of the attack.

$10,000 for pain and suffering

[pantherfan 0]

Did anyone check out the size differential between the assailant and the victim?

Assailant - Dunn 5'10", 155lbs. age 26

Victim - Leonard 6', 285lbs. age 35

It said he was ALMOST 6' tall meaning he was actually only 5' 11" which made me laugh.

[tro 4]

Sorry in advance if anyone gets offended, but I dont see how wearing a cage makes anyone act like an ass and get in fights. Just like how wearing a visor makes you less likely to act like an ass and fight.

You act like an ass if you are an ass. If you acted like an ass and fought with a cage, and then stopped because you wear a visor now and are scared to get hurt, that just makes you an ass that is scared to get hurt. Nothing personal, but it is a personality and sportsmanship issue...not an equipment issue. JMHO

I ain't offended, but I was and see guys with cages get bumped/pushed/trash talked and take it to another level because they know if a fight breaks out there face is probably ok. With a visor on I think you make a better decision as to when is it really worth it to take the pushing and chipiness to the fight level. I'm not scared to get hurt, but if I lose a tooth or break my noise, it better be because a guy was really pissing me of. All I am saying is to many guys with cages get shoved after a whistle and freak out, my experiance any way.

[dix0r 0]

unless it was a similar case, i seem to recall someone posting about this when the initial verdict came in. i can't find the article now, but i was under the impression that dunn had played in the minors, or at least high level juniors? and that the other guy wasn't very good at all. that was the impression the earlier article gave anyways, if its the same one i'm thinking of.

so, maybe he's a douchebag and hit a guy who couldn't skate. but just to play devil's advocate, maybe the other guy was hacking him all night... who knows? i'm not justifying [sucker?] punching someone, just saying we probably don't know the whole story. maybe the big guy is 'that guy' everyone in his beer league hates playing against cause he hacks and complains and whines. maybe he had it coming.

regardless, glad the guy ended up paying :]

[UMWhockey 0]

Did anyone check out the size differential between the assailant and the victim?

Assailant - Dunn 5'10", 155lbs. age 26

Victim - Leonard 6', 285lbs. age 35

Anyone else think that is a matter of "small man syndrome?"

small man syndrome? i wish i was 5'10"

[dix0r 0]

haha...

or 'average guy vs linebacker' syndrome

[docar15 1]

Wearing a cage to protect yourself against morons who can not keep their sticks on the ice is one thing. Punching somebody with a gloved hand to an open face is an act of cowardness, nothing less. Keeping your caged helmet and gloves on while trying to continue fighting another person who dropped their gloves is beyond me!

Fighting in a non-checking beer league is dumb.

Getting all pissed off because an opposing defenseman did not get out of your way fast enough and you end up on your ass yelling this is a no-checking game is another thing I will never understand about these new breed of so called hockey players.

[Doctor Hook 0]

The only time I'll advocate fighting in a beer league is if some d00sh skates around like he's Marty McSoreley and the ref doesn't call it. Then I believe it's justified to do whatever it takes to prevent this guy from taking free shots.

[dix0r 0]

beer league fights are pretty entertaining. saw one where a guy fell down and kept trying to punch the other guys leg. lmao.

[Fletch 219]

beer league fights are pretty entertaining. saw one where a guy fell down and kept trying to punch the other guys leg. lmao.

Gloves on or off? ;)

[legiahockey 3]

alot of these beer league guys are real lowlifes. ive een hit from behind. shoved and slashed tons of times. some people think its the nhl or something and get way to crazy

[Chadd 916]

beer league fights are pretty entertaining. saw one where a guy fell down and kept trying to punch the other guys leg. lmao.

I've had guys try to punch me in the balls while they're laying on the ice.

[sabby47 2]

Ya, some guys have that attitude where they think they have to play tough guy or think that they're playin pro. Why some people carry that attitude is beyond me. We all have to go to work the next day and none of us are getting paid to play. I had the unlucky first hand experience of a moron in rec league about 2 months ago. A guy checked me from behind (non-contact league) after he got frustrated and plowed me into the boards. I'm 150, 5'4'' and he's at least 100 lbs heavier than me, and 6'. Right now I'm 5 wks out from having ACL and meniscus surgery all because someone lost their temper.