hattrick74 0 Report post Posted October 19, 2008 I remember seeing the redwings off season workout regime here a while ago and that got me thinking, does anyone else have any established work out routines for off ice preparation? something like a two week plan that you could do consistently. I am not really looking for something that you made up on your own, i am looking more for something that was created for junior/pro (elite level) hockey players... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xyphereos 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2008 I have a workout routine that I follow every week. What I suggest you do is either you see a personal trainer and talk to him and see if he can set you up with one or look up sport specific exercises that focus on what you want to be better at. But make sure that you are doing the exercise correctly, the reason why I stress a personal trainer, because you can hurt yourself pretty badly if you are doing them wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ranger-#8 1 Report post Posted October 20, 2008 I've started playing around with crossfit.com it will kick your ass but you get in great shape, and it stresses mobility and strength together. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grinder 2 Report post Posted October 20, 2008 I cannot say enough good things about crossfit. It's been embraced by the Canadian army in a big way, which is where I was introduced to it. It develops all around fitness and explosive muscle power through short, intense workouts. You can develop your own crossfit gym in your garage for next to nothing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aussie Joe 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2008 I have a workout routine that I follow every week. What I suggest you do is either you see a personal trainer and talk to him and see if he can set you up with one or look up sport specific exercises that focus on what you want to be better at. But make sure that you are doing the exercise correctly, the reason why I stress a personal trainer, because you can hurt yourself pretty badly if you are doing them wrong.This is exactly what I say everytime this sort of question comes up. A personal trainer is everything you need! - Motivator - Instructor - Time/performance keeper - Safety watchdog - Project managerAnd so much more! Here a PT session goes for about 20-30 bucks an hr. The good ones are 30. I goto a bloke atm who PT's me on weights/cardio one day of the week and the other workout I do boxing. Great cardio + training if I ever get into a scuffle. ;) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spanphly 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2008 I cannot say enough good things about crossfit. It's been embraced by the Canadian army in a big way, which is where I was introduced to it. It develops all around fitness and explosive muscle power through short, intense workouts. You can develop your own crossfit gym in your garage for next to nothing.there is a canadian army??? sorry, I had to do it... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cause4alarm 7 Report post Posted October 20, 2008 Unless you have access to a highly elite level training program, CrossFit training would be my recommendation. While the unmodified program focuses more on "General Physical Preparedness" more than anything hockey-specific, the strength and conditioning gains will be applicable to all athletics and should crossover into your sport. You can, of course, adapt the program to better suit your needs.I've done a speed/skill/hockey program before. I did adult classes, which were mostly filled with rec league beginners, but the program counts several early round NHL draft picks as graduates. The opportunity to do sprints on the skating treadmill was really valuable for conditioning. However, those benefits pretty much go away once you end the program (which is probably inevitable given how pricey it is) and no longer have access to such a rare piece of equipment. On the other hand, with CrossFit programming, you'll learn to be more self-sufficient with your conditioning, and with this knowledge you'll be able to gain longer term benefits.Outside of the skating treadmill, there is no comparison between the "hockey" workouts I did at this program and the ones I do for CrossFit. CrossFit got me way stronger.-----Here is the published off-ice circuit program of USA Hockey National Team Development Program (with some modification):http://www.owatonna.k12.mn.us/Classroom/OH...%20Training.htmI believe the videos are still available out there. Let me know if you have any questions about this.The Nike/Bauer website also had tons of off-ice drills. I'm not sure if they're still around. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
interpathway 9 Report post Posted October 20, 2008 The Nike/Bauer website also had tons of off-ice drills. I'm not sure if they're still around.They're still lingering around YouTube...search "Summer shift". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kevin 5 Report post Posted October 20, 2008 Crossfit is not hockey or any sport specific. Find a program better suited for your goals. If you want a pure strength program, you are better off doing something like Joe Defranco's Westside for Skinny Bastards. If you do that and add Mike Boyle's hockey conditioning program, which has already been posted on this board, you would have a better program for hockey than Crossfit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
QandA 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2008 I cannot say enough good things about crossfit. It's been embraced by the Canadian army in a big way, which is where I was introduced to it. It develops all around fitness and explosive muscle power through short, intense workouts. You can develop your own crossfit gym in your garage for next to nothing.there is a canadian army??? sorry, I had to do it...Ya, and they're in the war now too, and they have soldiers dying as well. I know your joking, but I don't see any humour in this. Sorry, carry on with the topic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cause4alarm 7 Report post Posted October 20, 2008 Crossfit is not hockey or any sport specific. Find a program better suited for your goals. If you want a pure strength program, you are better off doing something like Joe Defranco's Westside for Skinny Bastards. If you do that and add Mike Boyle's hockey conditioning program, which has already been posted on this board, you would have a better program for hockey than Crossfit.KevinCan you please provide the link for the Boyle stuff? I didn't have any luck finding it.Here's the first part of DeFranco article:http://www.defrancostraining.com/articles/...es_westside.htmI'm also going to agree and respectfully disagree with you. I noticed we've already began this discussion way in the past. In an earlier thread you said, CrossFit "is not sport specific and is far from the best way to train for hockey or any other sport. " (http://www.modsquadhockey.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=28610&st=0&start=0 #8)I agree that it's not hockey-specific, (although CrossFit can be tailored to be sport-specific if one chooses to do so).I don't agree that is *FAR* from being the best way. I wouldn't discourage anybody from checking out CF. Despite it not being hockey-specific, that certainly doesn't make it a waste of time or effort. Does a hockey-program exist that beats CrossFit at hockey? I can't say no. But I would still say that CF-style (unmodified, even) would still be a very effective choice if not near the top. I think that CF is superior to over 90% of general conditioning programs and will even venture to say that will probably beat even a fair share of hockey-specific programs. Anybody doing CF for hockey would still be seeing marked improvements in their strength and conditioning. By no means would you be making a "wrong" decision with CF. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kevin 5 Report post Posted October 20, 2008 http://www.training-conditioning.com/2007/...puck_drops.htmlI am sure you can find more if you use Google--this was the one posted on the long high tempo bike ride thread by biff44.I am not going to start, finish, or continue an argument regarding Crossfit. Mike Boyle and Charles Poliquin have trained a lot more elite hockey players than Greg Glassman, Rippetoe, and Co.Both Boyle and Poliquin have opined on the subject. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cause4alarm 7 Report post Posted October 20, 2008 Thanks KevinFor some reason, couldn't get the link to work, so searched it and reposting:http://www.training-conditioning.com/2007/...puck_drops.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rocket 0 Report post Posted October 25, 2008 hi,that's an intresting topic,the articel above is interesting......I'd be also interested in getting an official off season manual from any NHL team.What I noticed NHL player seem to become lighter again. Some seem to be even thin.Ovechkin, St.Louis, Iginla,Kovalchuk, Sakic, Modano ..... all dropped significantly bodyweight in order to become more agile...I'd love to tryout those "new" workouts too but its actually not a very good idea simply to go into the gym and start working out randomly. You need a manual made by an expert who knows how to correct and avoid muscle disbalances as well as how much training is enough etc...... there are also lots of fools out there,....I'd be happy in getting an updated manual with new ideas.....I have the Ottawa one of 2000. It's quite good but almost 9 years old...... hockey conditioning changed a lot since 2000.looking forward for your answersregardsrocket Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
humandictionary 0 Report post Posted October 25, 2008 Many gyms will have certain fitness programs for sports. At the gym I go to, I have picked a sports program, where a qualified PT will come on, run me through multiple tests to find my stamina levels, and work from there so I am buildong the muscle and strength that are most needed. Any good physican or kinesiology student or grad should have some good advice for you aswell. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RadioGaGa 162 Report post Posted October 25, 2008 I wouldn't classify it as a full workout regimine, but the Alex Kovalev DVD has some good balance/strength exercises on it. As I say...not sure it is a full workout on it's own...but looks like a good addition to anything else you may find. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yianni54 2 Report post Posted October 25, 2008 Having trouble finding the Detroit Redwings routine that was posted here. Can someone help? Thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
#44wannabe 4 Report post Posted October 26, 2008 I cannot say enough good things about crossfit. It's been embraced by the Canadian army in a big way, which is where I was introduced to it. It develops all around fitness and explosive muscle power through short, intense workouts. You can develop your own crossfit gym in your garage for next to nothing.there is a canadian army??? sorry, I had to do it... You could even this guys parents Who wants to be the first to ask them? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grinder 2 Report post Posted October 26, 2008 A failed joke shouldn't hijack the thread. It's nice to see the support for the troops, but let's let it lie. We've all made a comment that came out the wrong way at some point in our lives. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phunky_monkey 6 Report post Posted October 27, 2008 I suggest you guys do a lot of research before going straight to a PT, as a lot of them are complete duds who wouldn't have the first clue about effectively getting you to your goals. If you do see one straight up, it may help to see one with powerlifting experience as this promotes explosive power, as well as good core strength.I'm not ragging on PT's, but if the US/Canada is anything like here in Aus. it's very easy to get a PT licence so choose wisely. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SolarWind 23 Report post Posted October 28, 2008 I wouldn't classify it as a full workout regimine, but the Alex Kovalev DVD has some good balance/strength exercises on it. As I say...not sure it is a full workout on it's own...but looks like a good addition to anything else you may find.I found it very weak - more like a general fitness routine... mostly around bands he was endorsing...In my opinion any interval training is good - there's been tons of info on this on the site Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
#44wannabe 4 Report post Posted October 29, 2008 Interval training is definately the best kind for hockey. You would want to rotate between slow and high resistance interval training and fast, high tempo intervals with each session. I found this training method to definitely give me the greatest gains. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ascherrer 0 Report post Posted November 24, 2008 I'm on the ice only twice a week, but am a competitive triathlete (sprint to iron distance) and a personal trainer. In order to build a balanced I have strongly favored the Core Performance program to help with lateral movement, stability, strength/power and endurance. You can customize your workout and they offer a free trial membership on their online programs. You'll of course want to make modifications as time progresses and you find the exercises that work for you pricing is much better than personal training.Ultimately it is a great way to increase your performance level and fitness as well as prevent injury.I forgot if you are interested in checking it out there is a series of book called core performance or the online program is available at coreperformance.com Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trooper 8 Report post Posted November 24, 2008 I suggest you guys do a lot of research before going straight to a PT, as a lot of them are complete duds who wouldn't have the first clue about effectively getting you to your goals. If you do see one straight up, it may help to see one with powerlifting experience as this promotes explosive power, as well as good core strength.I'm not ragging on PT's, but if the US/Canada is anything like here in Aus. it's very easy to get a PT licence so choose wisely.It's the same here. You pay a bunch of money and then take an easy test on mostly outdated linear periodization type stuff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
