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I just saw the new Star Trek movie and can't believe how much I liked it. I'm by no means a "trekkie" and went into the movie thinking I would like it but I thought it was great. I was curious what Star Trek fans thought about the movie.

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I didn't think it was that bad. To be honest with you, I didn't think about it untill I read your message.

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Just saw it today. As a trekkie, it's awesome. And my brother and his friends, who are not trekkies, loved it as well.

See it if you haven't already.

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It was enjoyable to watch largely because it's not the usual Star Trek fare of stiff acting and obvious, in your face, social messages. It's a sci-fi action movie that anyone who could enjoy a film from that genre will enjoy.

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It was enjoyable to watch largely because it's not the usual Star Trek fare of stiff acting and obvious, in your face, social messages. It's a sci-fi action movie that anyone who could enjoy a film from that genre will enjoy.

That's just what I needed to hear before I went out to this one. off to fandango...

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Life long trekkie and if this is good hollywood fair then we have lowered our standards so much its troubling. Really looking forward to transformers, best pure action movie I have seen in a bit

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It was a fun movie, but once again I got lost in the details. Small things that are glaring to me and slide over most people;

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-They used the Enterprise from most of the movies, not the "original" as it would have been when Kirk first took command. At least use round nacelles, since you went with phaser cannons instead of bank for crying out loud.

-They decided to ignore most of what happened in the Enterprise series, including teleporting at warp. Though it just cements to me that the whole series is going to be dragged out back and shot once syndication is over.

-They decided that this "reboot" (I hate that term and the fact Hollywood can't have original thoughts) could shed the burdens of working within the confines of all other series/movies by creating an offshoot timeline.

-The message I got at the end was that old Spock was going to work in reestablishing Vulcan, leaving young Spock to be in Starfleet. Is he just going to keep giving formulas and technology to the current timeline and totally jack the temporal prime directive? Kinda weak IMO.

It felt like the people who wrote the movie researched Star Trek, and weren't actual fans. This is essentially why every "reboot" film or series of films are all going to be decent to good movies at best that look pretty and have weak story lines, instead of being great movies that win awards and win over both existing fans and new ones.

I firmly believe most Americans have lost the desire to think. They want pretty women, pretty CG, decent acting, and a budget of 50 million or more. One of the better recent movies was Watchmen in how it was very true to the original work and didn't try to dumb itself for the audience. That did result in mixed reviews, since any jack off the street won't know what the hell they're looking at and won't for one second look at the depth of a character like Rorschach. Instead we get a drummed up Uhura/Spock romance, clear touch panel computer displays, and a Romulan ship that looks like it was designed by Escher. Terrible.

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Maybe soceity in general is getting dumber, but truth be told a huge problem with Star Trek has always been that it's very preachy and very boring. I can't count the number of Star Trek episodes I've seen that revolve around either morality plays, or fixing some non-existant piece of technology. You can't really justify the production budget of a major film that no one wants to see.

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Maybe soceity in general is getting dumber, but truth be told a huge problem with Star Trek has always been that it's very preachy and very boring. I can't count the number of Star Trek episodes I've seen that revolve around either morality plays, or fixing some non-existant piece of technology. You can't really justify the production budget of a major film that no one wants to see.

And that's why a "reboot" was not only a good way to go, but necessary to save a dying franchise. Nearly all the Star Trek movies blew (actually, all the even numbered ones, were decent, but the odd numbered ones were shite), and it was time to make Star Trek cool again. Being a devoter Star Wars geek, I could have given less of a damn about anything Trekkie, but I saw this movie on a recommendation from a friend.

I came out thinking that Star Trek was my favourite movie of the year, so far.

It's important to watch a movie for what it is, and try to forget about its precedents. This movie worked well on so many levels, and will not only cash in big at the box office but create legions of new Trek fans in the process.

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Maybe soceity in general is getting dumber, but truth be told a huge problem with Star Trek has always been that it's very preachy and very boring. I can't count the number of Star Trek episodes I've seen that revolve around either morality plays, or fixing some non-existant piece of technology. You can't really justify the production budget of a major film that no one wants to see.

Look at the origins of star trek and what was happening in the world and the preachy-ness makes sense. Truthfully, a lot of shows have gotten really over the top with their preaching lately, especially the Simpsons and the other sunday night animated shows.

You also have to bear in mind that there are a limited number of (generalized) plots available for the shows. Given that there have been thousands of episodes of the various series by this point, you're obviously going to feel that they have covered the same ground repeatedly. With a movie, you can go into more detail and have multiple subplots, something that is difficult in a 30 or 60 minute television program.

That said, I'm not a trek fan either.

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I saw it and enjoyed it. Who cares that they used a little artistic license here or there. They finally put some good effects into a Star Trek movie and the characters were decent as young versions of the old cast. Not a bad way to spend a Sunday afternoon, especially if you hit a movie pub.

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Look at the origins of star trek and what was happening in the world and the preachy-ness makes sense. Truthfully, a lot of shows have gotten really over the top with their preaching lately, especially the Simpsons and the other sunday night animated shows.

You also have to bear in mind that there are a limited number of (generalized) plots available for the shows. Given that there have been thousands of episodes of the various series by this point, you're obviously going to feel that they have covered the same ground repeatedly. With a movie, you can go into more detail and have multiple subplots, something that is difficult in a 30 or 60 minute television program.

That said, I'm not a trek fan either.

The original Star Trek certainly was from an era of social change. Putting a black woman on the bridge was a big deal at the time and it was a message. So was having a Russian for that matter, but they wove it into the realm of a sci-fi series that would have been interesting even if all the characters were blonde haired blue eyed uber-Aryans. They also did a much better job weaving the social messages into interesting fictional TV. I'll certainly grant you that in the 60's Sci-Fi was still a genre in it's youth and it was a lot easier to be original. Though it seemed to me that the next generation got especially overt with the social preaching and basically all of the episodes could fall into three catagories: 1.Some absurd interstellar dipolmatic issue that challanges the morality of the crew. 2.Some interstellar conflict that challanges the morality of the crew. 3.Fixing some peice of technology that doesn't exist before the ship blows up as a result. They have some really fragile technology in the future. Even episodes that use standard cheap sci-fi plot devices tend to have enough of one of these elements to be included in a catagory. Of course, if I were a Star Trek fan I might enjoy being told how screwed up the world is by people in spandex suits.

I completely agree with regards to Fox's animated programming. I haven't watched the Simpsons since the movie came out and Family Guy has been terrible lately. Not really a matter of agreeing or disagreeing with this or that message, just completely not funny. Of course I suppose that's what happens when the show ceases to be about comedy and becomes a platform for Seth MacFarlane to express his political views.

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Loved this movie. Completely blown away by the special effects, they looked amazing.

I'm not a trekkie but have seen a few movies (next Gen 90's ones and the undiscovered country) and really liked the story, how they got certain characters similar but unique on their own merits. I think this was done allot better then say the Star Wars epi's I-III.

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