Easton S19 helmet

[forbs02 20]

You joined in 2007 but only have 1 post?

I read your post over like 5 times and I don't understand your point. So the helmet scored around 180g, which you say is "about twice the energy required to cause a concussion." So how does that compare to other helmets? Your throwing out a lot of mumbo-jumbo that doesn't have any reference point, so it doesn't really say anything.

I won't comment on your comments about aesthetics, because that's 100% opinion. I will say this though: I think the S19 is one of the best looking helmets out there - IMO.

The thing with concussions is that they aren't always caused by impacts to the head. If you are prone to concussions already, if you get hit at center ice and your head whips forward, you can get a concussion from that. If you hit your head on the ice with enough speed, even if its less than the "energy needed to get a concussion" your brain can still whack the inside of your skull. Look at football. Those guys still get a bunch of concussions and their helmets are twice as protective as hockey helmets.

[JR Boucicaut 3803]

The thing with concussions is that they aren't always caused by impacts to the head. If you are prone to concussions already, if you get hit at center ice and your head whips forward, you can get a concussion from that. If you hit your head on the ice with enough speed, even if its less than the "energy needed to get a concussion" your brain can still whack the inside of your skull. Look at football. Those guys still get a bunch of concussions and their helmets are twice as protective as hockey helmets.

So true - that's how I got #7.

[crookedwookie 0]

So far I am finding this helmet to be a GIANT $170 disappointment. After stripping a bolt clean and then having it rip out of the side of the helmet entirely, I took it back to my LHS. Since nobody has any XL in stock yet they had to contact their Easton rep and he finally swung by yesterday to drop off a replacement. So tonight I sat down to mount a DIFFERENT visor on this one and it's still a nightmare.

Never mind the fact they stripped out so much padding to cut weight that it doesn't seem terribly *comfortable,* I have some serious concerns about it's construction.

Even in this new helmet, several of the bolts aren't sitting flush in their holes - one of them is turned enough it's actually partially covered by the shell. Just shoddy assembly.

Installing a visor on this thing feels like defusing a bomb. The bolts just feel so flimsy that every time I turn a screw I'm worried the bolt is going to strip and another helmet will be ruined.

And with the rigid shell and the weird angles of the helmet, I cannot for the life of me figure out how to securely mount a visor on this thing. This time I'm attempting to mount my Bauer X100 - I figured that if I got the frame mounted, at least I'd never have to take it off again and risk stripping bolts; I can just pop the shield out and replace it. The helmet has such odd angles, that when I finally got the 'sideburns' screwed in, and adjusted everything so I could screw in the two forehead mounts, the whole assembly, rather than mounting straight out from the helmet, is cocked back at about 30 degrees from level.

Mounting anything on one of these is an absolute nightmare. Nothing seems to fit the helmet properly, and the bolts are so poorly threaded and aligned that every twist of a screw is like playing Russian roulette stripping something.

Hugely frustrating.

[crookedwookie 0]

A quick follow-up from last night. After attempting to re-mount the X100 visor level - which looks to be pretty much impossible, the way the 'sideburns' bolts line up with the forehead ones, or DON'T - I took a closer look and discovered another issue with the helmet for those kinds of visors.

I think just about every helmet in the world has either a rounded lip on the front or a rounded lip that flattens out to a flat front panel with those front two screws there, which some visors need in order to mount properly. Basically anything with venting along the top.

Easton, in their single-minded determination to make the angles on this helmet as awkward as possible, went the opposite route. The helmet actually INDENTS to a scooped-out flat panel containing those front screws. It looks like someone scooped a piece out of the front of the helmet and then smoothed out the bottom of that hole. NOTHING is designed to connect to that.

I looked over the X100 more carefully, and the frame that you mount which the shield snaps into, the top edge of it where it connects to the helmet, the two holes you place the screws through actually have slightly rounded backs, designed to sit flush on the rounded front lip of the helmet. It'll even work ok, if not QUITE as flush, on a helmet with a flat front.

What it will NOT work right with is a helmet that actually INDENTS along the front lip, placing the bolts you're trying to screw into out of reach in the bottom of a shallow depression. Helmet scoops inward, visor mount contours outward. Makes for a terrible match.

[furlanitalia 1]

Post some pictures?

[crookedwookie 0]

Took my helmet in to an *awesome* LHS I recently discovered. They worked their magic and got an Oakley pro Aviator visor mounted on the S19 for me. Looks sharp - I'll try to get a few pictures this weekend and post the finished product.

I do second a few of JR's fit comments. Helmet sits very low and differently than any other helmet I've ever worn. Pressure points in a few odd spots but I suspect the foam will break in a bit with use or I'll just get used to it. With the minimalist padding the helmet is definitely not as cushioned and comfortable as some, but it's not bad once you get the occipital lock set right. I'd love to see the next helmet use something a little more advanced than baseball cap snaps, but that's just me. Seems like an inelegant solution.

Biggest problem I had was one that JR pointed out: with so little padding inside the helmet is vented pretty well but there's nothing to absorb much sweat. Much more sweat running into eyes or dripping onto visor than with other helmets I've worn. Might just have to keep a good cloth handy for mopping face or cleaning visor between shifts as needed.

Off topic, it turns out that Hejduk didn't include all the parts in my mounting kit that were supposed to be in there, so they're sending me a new kit. Going to take the Hejduk visor and my Cascade bucket into the same LHS this weekend and have them mount that for me. Will try to get a pic or two of that alongside the now functional S19 and will post both for comparison.

[althoma1 575]

Going to take the Hejduk visor and my Cascade bucket into the same LHS this weekend and have them mount that for me. Will try to get a pic or two of that alongside the now functional S19 and will post both for comparison.

Is your Cascade an M11? If so, it'd be very interesting if you compared the S19 and M11 after wearing them a few times. They're both helmets that claim to be more protective than average so a head to head comparison would be great.

[skarbro 0]

They're both helmets that claim to be more protective than average

Actually, Easton never claimed that the S19 is more protectective at all. They only said that it exceeded safety tests by 40% - which really doesn't say much since we don't know how well other helmets passed the same tests.

[IniNew 53]

Actually, Easton never claimed that the S19 is more protectective at all. They only said that it exceeded safety tests by 40% - which really doesn't say much since we don't know how well other helmets passed the same tests.

Was there not a puck to the helmet test? (forgive me for not going back 20 some pages). And I do remember seeing a picture of a machine squishing helmets showing the S19 to be more rigid. All meant to show us that it was more protective than the other helmets.

[furlanitalia 1]

Yes, they did do both those tests but if they never actually said that it was more protective then I would think they are off the hook. Inferring something is very different from actually saying something.

[skarbro 0]

Exactly. They're marketing is quite clever. The show selective images and videos that imply that they are better than other helmets in certain tests, but never actually say that they are better.

The only true measure of how protective the S19 helmet is will be in real life collisions.

[K9 Unit 1]

Exactly. They're marketing is quite clever. The show selective images and videos that imply that they are better than other helmets in certain tests, but never actually say that they are better.

The only true measure of how protective the S19 helmet is will be in real life collisions.

anybody wanna take that fall for us? :P you'd be doing us a favor

[goaliemanshark 6]

I've never had a concussion before, but last night at stick and shoot i was skating backwards and hit a divet in the ice and the heel of my skates caught an edge (im not the best skater in the world...) i fell backwards and whip lashed the back of my head on the ice. I didnt feel a thing, the helmet seemed to do it's job yet again. My neck hurts pretty bad the next day. So far this helmet has been very protective, im very happy with it.

[spylo18 0]

anybody knows if the fm480 cage fits on an s19? And if yes which size fits on a s19 size M??

[skarbro 0]

I've never had a concussion before, but last night at stick and shoot i was skating backwards and hit a divet in the ice and the heel of my skates caught an edge (im not the best skater in the world...) i fell backwards and whip lashed the back of my head on the ice. I didnt feel a thing, the helmet seemed to do it's job yet again. My neck hurts pretty bad the next day. So far this helmet has been very protective, im very happy with it.

Sorry to hear about your neck. It's nice to hear that the helmet protected your head in such a hard impact. Nice.

[odp 0]

Fingered the helmet yesterday. Definately ridiculously light. They only had a medium to try on and it felt awfully tight. I normally take a medium HC100/Intake. Anyone know if I might be better off moving up to a large or if the medium will "settle in" and get more comfortable?

[JR Boucicaut 3803]

With me, I normally wear a L Intake. I dropped down to the M in the S19

[weedsnager 0]

has anyone mounted an S17 cage on one yet?

[lohnman 0]

I got one a week ago for my son. 4 games and 3 practices later the helmet looks like it has been dragged down the road tied to a rope on the back of a car. The outer shell has several chips and has actually cracked in a few places.

I think the outer shell is just too thin to handle the wear and tear of a bantam AAA player. I'm in NJ for USA hockey nationals and the shop at the rink here has all the new Bauer stuff. I'm going to return this helmet and get a 9900 for him, that is a nice helmet. The 9500 didn't fit him, the 9900 does. I would think twice before buying the S19 they are going to have alot of durability issues with it and it's ultra thin shell.

[skarbro 0]

I got one a week ago for my son. 4 games and 3 practices later the helmet looks like it has been dragged down the road tied to a rope on the back of a car. The outer shell has several chips and has actually cracked in a few places.

I think the outer shell is just too thin to handle the wear and tear of a bantam AAA player. I'm in NJ for USA hockey nationals and the shop at the rink here has all the new Bauer stuff. I'm going to return this helmet and get a 9900 for him, that is a nice helmet. The 9500 didn't fit him, the 9900 does. I would think twice before buying the S19 they are going to have alot of durability issues with it and it's ultra thin shell.

I was half expecting someone to post something like this sooner or later. The plastic shell is quite thin and does not feel as durable compared to Bauer plastic. It more feels like the plastic you find on bike helmets, which would really be no coincidence considering who designed it.

That said, I don't play at that level and I'm sure the S19 will last a long time with me.

BTW, lucky you to have an LHS with all the new stuff in stock! No one around Toronto has new stuff yet AFAIK. My S19 is on pre-order and won't be in until mid-May.

[krwwc6 0]

I would have thought by now we would see more NHL players wearing this helmet. There must be a reason so few players are wearing this helmet. . . . it doesn't take to long to get used to a helmet that they should be waiting until the off season. Iginla was wearing it but lately he has been wearing a lower model easton helmet

[goaliemanshark 6]

I have an s17 cage mounted on mine. WeedSnagger. It works fust fine.

As with most EPP helmets the s19 doesnt deal with sweat as well as VN lined helmets. So most people who wear easton helmets wear S9s. At least that was my understanding.

Oh and lohnman... holy crap i hope that doesnt happen to mine!

[Speedz98 15]

I got one a week ago for my son. 4 games and 3 practices later the helmet looks like it has been dragged down the road tied to a rope on the back of a car. The outer shell has several chips and has actually cracked in a few places.

I think the outer shell is just too thin to handle the wear and tear of a bantam AAA player. I'm in NJ for USA hockey nationals and the shop at the rink here has all the new Bauer stuff. I'm going to return this helmet and get a 9900 for him, that is a nice helmet. The 9500 didn't fit him, the 9900 does. I would think twice before buying the S19 they are going to have alot of durability issues with it and it's ultra thin shell.

This pro shop is in New Jersey?? Where and what's the name?

[Speedz98 15]

btw, is it alright to find a pro stock s19 helmet on Ebay? Are they more protective?

[skarbro 0]

btw, is it alright to find a pro stock s19 helmet on Ebay? Are they more protective?

I saw that one on eBay also.

It's exactly the same as a retail S19 except it doesn't have the back and side labels, and it has an NHL logo on it. No different as far as the actualy helmet.