kr580 2 Report post Posted November 11, 2010 he hits the post on just about every shot. thats probably why you think the net moves before the puck gets there. look a little more closely.and honestly, you think that someone with a string tied to the cross bar is more likely than SIDNEY CROSBY hitting the post and knocking a dislodged net back a few inches?I stand corrected. I only watched it quickly the first time and I thought he was hitting the back post, not the front ones. I guess it's just a really light net. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Mafia Line 0 Report post Posted November 11, 2010 Looks pretty legit to me, I've seen minor leaguers move a net a bit thats not on pegs, so why not one of best players in the world. Then again what the hell do I know. LOL Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
larrivee 3 Report post Posted November 11, 2010 I would say the net moving on the five shots in a row is legit, but that last one is fake. Couple things that indicate that, to me, are that they cut the video away from the net for the last shot, and that the net is more or less in the air when they cut back to the net. I might be wrong, but the first five definitely look real to me.There are no cuts in the video.I dont see how you people can call this fake. It is what it is. I'd like to see anyone on this board toss a net back on a post hit as much as he did on the last shot. I'd also love to see anyone on the board have that much accuracy. As I said, I'm no Crosby fan, but this is impressive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fiimb 1 Report post Posted November 11, 2010 this is exactly why they would fake it. people think because it's "SIDNEY CROSBY", that it must be true, and that must be the BEST STICK. i'm not doubting it's a good stick, but companies are going to do what they can to make people believe they can vastly improve their game, and that is why i believe it's fake.just because it's marketing doesn't automatically mean it's fake. we're not talking about old spice here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scotty 8 Report post Posted November 11, 2010 Makes me think of those old commercials where a quarterback in "practice" would throw the ball 200+ yards up into the stands. Or the "Pick Me" commercials for the NFL. While it is possible to move the net a bit and I'm sure also possible for NHLers to be that accurate, I'd venture to say fake as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ironslave 2 Report post Posted November 11, 2010 It's definitely real, just like Lebron's Powerade commercial is also real. Ronaldinho's commercial is real as well. Lastly, these guys' commercial is definitely real too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyscrape 5 Report post Posted November 11, 2010 So no one has mentioned the fact that at the end the last shot places the net perfectly square on the goal line....Fake! I believe he could move it, but to place it perfectly on the goal line not so much and the second to last or third to last shot truly moves before the puck hits anything.And it makes even less sense to me that people would think this is more likely than Stamkos shooting 104 skating up to the puck at full speed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dsjunior1388 81 Report post Posted November 11, 2010 Apparently no one is good at anything anymore except photoshop and video doctoring. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyscrape 5 Report post Posted November 11, 2010 ^ I am not saying he could not pull it off, but I would want to see it in person. Like you said and I am not sure if it was sarcasm or not, photoshop and editing has made skeptics out of all of us. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shark#81 0 Report post Posted November 11, 2010 from the force required to move the net we can solve for puck speed. I have a digital gauge (lbs) and can get a read on what it would take to move a standard net say that distance in the final shot. hmmm.speaking of viral videos -after watching Sydney Crosby puck tricks Part 1-8 back in '07, i had an idea to sort of make a "spoof" ended up being a commercial for my skate design. Learned the puck tricks from scratch (no wax!) then shot some video in a lunch shinny session. That video is now sitting at 200,000 views, which is pretty cool it's gotten that far. i think it's funny. Time to build a carbon stick and start shooting.lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shark#81 0 Report post Posted November 11, 2010 fastest recorded shot (ever) delivers 190J of energy which is ~ the same as a .22 bullet. Will a direct hit from 22 caliber bullet move the net? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyscrape 5 Report post Posted November 11, 2010 fastest recorded shot (ever) delivers 190J of energy which is ~ the same as a .22 bullet. Will a direct hit from 22 caliber bullet move the net?No! I shoot steel and a .22lr at that distance knocks over a 4x4 inch steel target but it would only ricochet off the post. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shooter27 116 Report post Posted November 11, 2010 On fresh ice, a hard shot hitting the post is definitely able to move the net a little bit with each shot (In college when we would get on the ice before practice started we would bet against each other to see who could move the net the most with one shot). However, the last shot moves it more than I've ever seen done and I've seen it done by plenty of guys who shot with NHL-caliber velocity, so I would think that is probably more than it could actually move on one shot. My guess is that the first part of it is real, but they embellished the last shot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IniNew 53 Report post Posted November 11, 2010 I'd like to point out that the net stops on the goal line because there is a peg in the net, and the peg falls into it's whole. I'd also like to point out that there being a peg in the net there is less of the net on the ice than normal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shark#81 0 Report post Posted November 11, 2010 I think a regulation net is around 125-150 lbs. So the puck transfers its energy to the net, that energy is scrubbed off by friction on the ice. The transfer from the puck is not even a perfect one - the puck deflects, hits the ice/netting and also heats up due to deformation of the rubber.OK so here is another viewpoint. Can hard shot from a wannabe move the net at all? Maybe an inch?? My feeling is that pro's are 10-15% over top amateurs (not as much as you would think). So Sid shoots with 20-30% more so he gets fraction of inches of movement more.Not unless the net is made of plastic or aluminum, weighs like 20 lbs just for the video shoot. Theys Busted. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Machinehead2k5 32 Report post Posted November 11, 2010 I think a regulation net is around 125-150 lbs. Not unless the net is made of plastic or aluminum, weighs like 20 lbs just for the video shoot. 150lbs? It's probably closer to 80-90 tops. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chippa13 1844 Report post Posted November 11, 2010 I haven't seen this video but I do know that one of the newer nets on fresh ice will move quite a bit from shots when it isn't pegged in. A good hard slapper can easily move it a few inches at a time if not more. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Agent1.8 1 Report post Posted November 12, 2010 I heard that CCM commercial where that kid opens his locker and Ovi's head is there talking to him is real too. it's like some old Russian parlor trick... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tareatingrat 4 Report post Posted November 12, 2010 This is funny that people think it can't possibly be done.I've been at a practice where the net isn't pegged. Set it up on the goal line myself. After a warmup, with 15 high school kids shooting at it with various velocities and not actually touching the net (I've watched), the net has visibly moved a couple of inches back.They definitely don't have the accuracy of Crosby, nor the shot speed, and they do it eventually.If you hit the posts consistently, like was done in the video, with decent shots, the net will move. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shark#81 0 Report post Posted November 12, 2010 150lbs? It's probably closer to 80-90 tops.This place quotes 125 lbs.. i've never weighed them.http://www.arizonasportsequipment.com/hockey/complete-hockey-goals/regulation-goals-72-x-48/sku/238opw/Headed to the rink tomorrow I'll see if I can budge the net with a slapper. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jmiami 4 Report post Posted November 12, 2010 If I'm charged with directing a commercial for Reebok where the point of the spot is to show that Sidney can make a net move backwards from a shot with their latest twig, my first question is can he do that with a real net? If so, that's great.If not, we have the art department build a much lighter net. The posts might be hard plastic painted to look like metal. Or they might even be styro-foam made to look like metal. Either way, if RBK wants us to make the net move from Sidney's shot...we'll make it move. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jarick 5 Report post Posted November 12, 2010 Nobody's ever moved those metal nets on an outdoor rink? I suck compared to most of you and I move that net around, and that ice is anything but fresh. No reason Sid can't be shooting at a light weight net and sliding it across the ice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrWizard 0 Report post Posted November 12, 2010 I'm no physics expert but the fact that he hits metal every time makes this more plausible. If he hits the net, the force behind his shot is dispersed over the surface of the netting, but because he's hitting the structural part of the net, it's going to move easier.Curious to know, if it was Ovechkin/Chara/Weber/MacInnis doing it, would there be as many doubters? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chadd 916 Report post Posted November 12, 2010 If I'm charged with directing a commercial for Reebok where the point of the spot is to show that Sidney can make a net move backwards from a shot with their latest twig, my first question is can he do that with a real net? If so, that's great.If not, we have the art department build a much lighter net. The posts might be hard plastic painted to look like metal. Or they might even be styro-foam made to look like metal. Either way, if RBK wants us to make the net move from Sidney's shot...we'll make it move.I have a good shot with decent velocity and I would break plastic or foam posts. Hell, I've broken lightweight metal posts. If I could go post every time, I could make the net move as much as he does in this video. The impressive thing to me is the accuracy to hit the post on every shot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tro 4 Report post Posted November 12, 2010 That's fake to Chadd. This wasn't even done on ice, all in a green room. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites