New One70's or Used TotalOnes?

[justaguy 0]

I've been playing a few months now and feel like the skates i have have a little too much flex (old pair of grafs) so i'm looking at picking up new skates. I tried on the one70's and one'80s and both fit nice... but a friends friend is selling his used totalones for the same price ($350 cdn). I tried on the TotalOnes and they feel amazing!!! But as a beginner (although i can skate pretty well) would the totalones hinder my progression?

As a background... 32YO fairly athletic person (played football, baseball, basketball, volleyball all at decent levels)... and i'm progressing at a fairly quick rate. Playing in a beginners league now, but my friends are asking me to join their C/D beer league team as soon as i feel ready.

Let me know what you think.

[Krev 86]

Even though you are a beginner, I'd pick up the TotalOnes for that price.

[stuie7 6]

If the TotalOne's are in good condition and they're the right size I'd take them, they are going to be stiffer than your Grafs.

[justaguy 0]

Size is right, and the skates have only been used for 4 months. The guy is selling them because he got injured and is out for the season (maybe permanently).

[Hradsky 1]

Take the Total Ones as long as they are in decent shape.

[justaguy 0]

When you guys mention decent shape are you talking cosmetically or structurally? Is there any way to tell if a skate has softened up?

[wrangler 157]

When you guys mention decent shape are you talking cosmetically or structurally? Is there any way to tell if a skate has softened up?

How many hours have the skates been used? How do they feel when you skate in them?

[justaguy 0]

Hard to say how many hours they've been used... and i haven't had a chance to skate in them. i've only tried them on in the stores to check that the size was right.

He sent me some pics and they look good cosmetically... only a few marks here and there. He lives an hour from me so its not really worth it to go there to check them out unless i plan on buying them.

[C.SLO5 0]

Did he bake them? If so, how many times? Make sure that there is enough life in them for 1 bake for you if needed!

[Hermans 9]

A few ideas on examining them

* pull up the liner and look at the bottom of the inside of the boot and see if it is good condition.

* you can take the same skates of the wall of a LHS and examine it for a comparison.

* What is the build and skill of your friend and how often did he skate in them? If he had them four months and didn't wear them often that should indicate that they have a lot of life left

I got Graf 735's which is a stiff, stiff skate and I had only been playing for 4-5 months. They took me a long time to get used to but they fit me better than any skate I tried. I stuck with them and noticed that my skating improved almost immediately simply because of the fit. Later, as they broke in my skating improved for two reasons; (a) because the skate finally was breaking in and I could finally lace them up tight onto my feet and (b) because I had to work harder at my skating technique simply because the skate was stiff and required me to build up strength.

As long as they are truly good fit go for the higher end skate, stick with them and be patient.

[b33f 0]

If the TotalOne's are in good condition and they're the right size I'd take them, they are going to be stiffer than your Grafs.

X2, a much stiffer and different fitting skate than your Grafs. I went from Vapor XXs to Graf 703s then back Bauers with the TOs, and found them to be really stiff. I've also been on skates my entire life. I would be a little hesitant to go straight to the TOs if I were you. But on the flip side, you could also buy them and end up loving them.....

[LGRHockey 0]

Personally I'd get the Total One's since you would definitely get more bang for your buck. However I've been skating since I was 6 so I have no idea how their stiffness would affect your learning process.

I would recommend going into your LHS and asking if they have a system where you can try the product for 30 days and then decide whether you want to keep or return them (I know The Hockey Shop in Vancouver has done this in the past). Just trying a loaner pair of Total Ones will allow you to decide about your friends used pair.

Total Ones, One70s and One80s are all good skates.

[justaguy 0]

So i decided to go with the Total ones... when i got to the guys house he tells me that he accidentally left them in his bag after his injury without drying them out and they stink a little. The condition of them is great... a couple marks here and there but nothing major. He ended up giving them to me for $320 to cover to cost of a ozone cleaning (i didn't ask, but eh if hes offering)

Just got home and threw my superfeet in and they skates feel amazing!!! These are by for the most comfortable skates i've tried... but they are super stiff which will take some getting used to.

Thanks for all ur advice

[wrangler 157]

So i decided to go with the Total ones... when i got to the guys house he tells me that he accidentally left them in his bag after his injury without drying them out and they stink a little. The condition of them is great... a couple marks here and there but nothing major. He ended up giving them to me for $320 to cover to cost of a ozone cleaning (i didn't ask, but eh if hes offering)

Just got home and threw my superfeet in and they skates feel amazing!!! These are by for the most comfortable skates i've tried... but they are super stiff which will take some getting used to.

Thanks for all ur advice

Let us know how they work out. Reporting back is always helpful for others in similar situations.

[b33f 0]

$320.....Sounds like a good deal.

[justaguy 0]

Ya... i'm pretty happy about the price as these cost almost $1000cdn new... and ended up costing me less than the one70's.

I'll do an update after i get a chance to skate on them... taking them to get sani-sport cleaned tomorrow and got a game monday.

[MilleniumFalcon 5]

what are you asking about??? totalones for sure

[mickz 107]

So i decided to go with the Total ones... when i got to the guys house he tells me that he accidentally left them in his bag after his injury without drying them out and they stink a little. The condition of them is great... a couple marks here and there but nothing major. He ended up giving them to me for $320 to cover to cost of a ozone cleaning (i didn't ask, but eh if hes offering)

Just got home and threw my superfeet in and they skates feel amazing!!! These are by for the most comfortable skates i've tried... but they are super stiff which will take some getting used to.

Thanks for all ur advice

If they are too stiff for you at first try skipping the last eyelet when lacing up your skates.

[HockeySavants 5]

buy some less expensive One40 Skates and learn how to skate well, then use your Total Ones for the real deal, no point in breaking down your TO while learning to skate

[wrangler 157]

buy some less expensive One40 Skates and learn how to skate well, then use your Total Ones for the real deal, no point in breaking down your TO while learning to skate

Different fit. Vapors would be a bit tighter than the Supremes, and I hear the Total One may be a bit bigger than the Supremes.

[sharks25 9]

^ one40s aren't vapors, they're just cheaper supremes. And I wouldn't get one40s, the skate wont really break down or soften while skating at a low level.

[wrangler 157]

^ one40s aren't vapors, they're just cheaper supremes. And I wouldn't get one40s, the skate wont really break down or soften while skating at a low level.

Sorry. Apparently I can't read that early in the morning. For some reason I turned the "one" into an "X".

[Hockeydog 8]

I would have suggested you skate in them before buying, just to make sure they are not too stiff. Feeling good on dry land and feeling good on the ice can be two different things. It is a great deal, but be honest with yourself and go back to your old skates if you find these are hampering your development. You can always ease into them as suggested above.

[justaguy 0]

Had my first skate with them... just a practice so it was good to not put them in game situation already. But WOW are these things light!!

They are definitely stiff compared to my old graf's... but my stride feel so much more efficient with them. Hard carves and stopping hard are going to take some getting used to, as my old skates i could feel the flex. Now that there isn't any flex it feels a little weird. I'm gonna go to a stick and puck tomorrow, so i'll try maybe leaving the top eyelet untied.

Thanks for all your advice.

[reverseit 0]

A few ideas on examining them

* pull up the liner and look at the bottom of the inside of the boot and see if it is good condition.

* you can take the same skates of the wall of a LHS and examine it for a comparison.

* What is the build and skill of your friend and how often did he skate in them? If he had them four months and didn't wear them often that should indicate that they have a lot of life left

I got Graf 735's which is a stiff, stiff skate and I had only been playing for 4-5 months. They took me a long time to get used to but they fit me better than any skate I tried. I stuck with them and noticed that my skating improved almost immediately simply because of the fit. Later, as they broke in my skating improved for two reasons; (a) because the skate finally was breaking in and I could finally lace them up tight onto my feet and (b) because I had to work harder at my skating technique simply because the skate was stiff and required me to build up strength.

As long as they are truly good fit go for the higher end skate, stick with them and be patient.

The 735's are really that stiff? I had a pair and after 2-3 seasons, they were ridiculously soft. As in I could take one hand and start deforming the boot and I'm a relatively small guy. I moved to the One100's, and now these are some stiff skates...