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One100 Skate versus One80

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Alright, I'm switching from the Bauer Vapor line, which has been a little too narrow in the toe-box to the Supreme line (probably today). I've tried on the One80s and One100s at my proshop and I like the fit.

So here's what I need help with, since while I've tried on the skates, you don't actually get to skate in them so I really have no way of gauging the answer myself:

My last four pairs of skates have been CCM Vector 10.0s, Bauer Vapor XXXXs (x2) and Bauer X:60s. All were top of the line skates at one point in time, and the stiffest in their model line that was available.

I played college hockey and but now just play pickup and men's league. I am a very strong skater though and I put a decent beating on my skates, though I only skate 1-2 times a week now, for about 2-4 hours total, so not nearly as much wear as in the past.

If plausible, I would like to save some cash and buy the One80s instead of the One100s. I'm worried, however, that after going top of the line stiffness for my last four pairs of skates, will I be unhappy going down a model with the One80s or will they be stiff enough given how much I skate nowadays? I'm only 175lbs but, like I said, am a strong, experienced skater who has been using the stiffest skates for the past decade almost. Will I be safe going with the One80s?

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Correct me if I'm mistaken, but the TOTALone is the Supreme line's top model, followed by the ONE100, further followed by the ONE80.

So you're looking at a two step downgrade (from TOtL XXXXs, X60s), if that's how you want to look at it.

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Correct me if I'm mistaken, but the TOTALone is the Supreme line's top model, followed by the ONE100, further followed by the ONE80.

So you're looking at a two step downgrade (from TOtL XXXXs, X60s), if that's how you want to look at it.

Yeah I knew that the TO is the top of the line now. Apologize if my wording was confusing there. I just also know that the One100 is basically a re-colored One95 (which was the stiffest/top of the line supreme last year and a great skate - really just wish I could find a pair in my size but they've been sold out forever now). In my mind, I was already using the One95/One100 as the standard for stiffness, so when that's probably why I said one step down. The question remains the same though, for a not so big guy, but experienced skater, who skates a lot less often these days, will the One80 be a stiff enough skate, or will I notice a big difference, coming from XXXXs and X:60s to a lesser model?

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Although the stiffness will undoubtedly drop, the only one who can make that call would be... you guessed it; yourself. It's obviously tough to tell just by trying them on and walking around because you don't know how they will feel in the future.

If it makes you feel any better, you're only taking a small jump down and there haven't been many issues regarding the quality of the One80s (but then again, it hasn't been all that long since release) so if I would hazard a guess based on the level of play and your weight, I'd say you'd be okay.

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Correct me if I'm mistaken, but the TOTALone is the Supreme line's top model, followed by the ONE100, further followed by the ONE80.

So you're looking at a two step downgrade (from TOtL XXXXs, X60s), if that's how you want to look at it.

One100 is the top line replacement, totalone is different construction and materials. It's above and beyond the top of line equivalent. APX will be the same.

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i use the one 80's and they are a good skate. they have a decent amount of stiffness out of the box. you mentioned that you are a strong skater, and i feel like with the hours you will use them for they would probably be good. i have had mine for about a year now and they are getting pretty beat up. mostly aesthetically. but i have been using them around 5 days a week with about an hour and a half a day.

edit* i feel like they have retained there stiffness fairly well for the amount that i have used them.

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Should a miracle occur and you find a ONE90 in your size, please note that there is a lot less interior ankle padding in the original ONE90 than a current ONE80 skate. The second generation ONE75 had more ankle padding added and it carried through in the ONE80. The durability of a ONE100 boot should be a consideration in your purchase decision. The ONE100 is a very strong skate.

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Should a miracle occur and you find a ONE90 in your size, please note that there is a lot less interior ankle padding in the original ONE90 than a current ONE80 skate. The second generation ONE75 had more ankle padding added and it carried through in the ONE80. The durability of a ONE100 boot should be a consideration in your purchase decision. The ONE100 is a very strong skate.

What benefit would the extra ankle padding provide in the One80 vs One90? Fill up negative space? Help lock down heel more?

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if you're looking for your skates to last the extra year(s), go with the one100s.

Local HS kids who have one80 and one100s, the kids who weigh more and skate harder (i've seen them play) are wearing the one100s, and there in better shape then the one80s, which are being used by lighter weight kids who skate less.

one100 with the alive composite quarter panel is going to outlast that one80 by quite a bit. still going to be stiff long after you've bought replacements for your one80. one95s we sold 3 years ago, being skated on 4-5 times a week are still holding up well. the alive composite is amazing. for an extra 200 bucks, WELL worth it IMO.

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What benefit would the extra ankle padding provide in the One80 vs One90? Fill up negative space? Help lock down heel more?

Comfort and better positive fit.

if you're looking for your skates to last the extra year(s), go with the one100s.

Local HS kids who have one80 and one100s, the kids who weigh more and skate harder (i've seen them play) are wearing the one100s, and there in better shape then the one80s, which are being used by lighter weight kids who skate less.

one100 with the alive composite quarter panel is going to outlast that one80 by quite a bit. still going to be stiff long after you've bought replacements for your one80. one95s we sold 3 years ago, being skated on 4-5 times a week are still holding up well. the alive composite is amazing. for an extra 200 bucks, WELL worth it IMO.

Agreed on longevity factor vs extra investment dollars.

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What is different besides the tongue?

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but besides the tongue the one100 is the same skate as the one95 just with a different color scheme.

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What is different besides the tongue?

Off the top of my head-comfort edge liner, vent holes on outsole/Tuuk Fusion runners for weight reduction. I'm sure there's more but those are the callout features that standout above the One100.

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Off the top of my head-comfort edge liner, vent holes on outsole/Tuuk Fusion runners for weight reduction. I'm sure there's more but those are the callout features that standout above the One100.

I think he meant what was the difference between the one95 and one100 besides the tongue. Not the difference between the one100 and the TO.

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I've been debating between the two as well. I'm 6'4" and weigh 220 and a pretty good skater (played goalie in college). Is it pretty much a given that I should get the One100s?

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How long do you plan to keep them? If you're going to replace them after 2-3 years of beer league and rec play then it isn't going to matter. If you're going to keep them until they die or will be playing at a high level several times per week, go with the better boot.

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I've been debating between the two as well. I'm 6'4" and weigh 220 and a pretty good skater (played goalie in college). Is it pretty much a given that I should get the One100s?

I'm 5'11" 230 and could not be happier with my One100's. Their, tuff, comfortable and protective. Well worth the investment. I skate D 2-3 times a week and take pucks off the boot all the time. No complaints. But as always stated here: Find what fits you best.

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Hey just a question like that, I've been looking to get one of these 2 skates also.

I weight around 155 and I play around 3 times a week and 1 beer league match so make that 4 times a week.

Am i going to have stiffness issues with the one100? and would it be possibel to solve that stiffness issue with having the top eyelets unlaced?

thanks!

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Correct me if im wrong but from my understanding the Total One is not as stiff as the One100, its actually softer? (whippier if you're a stick lover :wink: )

But at a 155 lbs Perh4ps I would say that the One100 only advantages for you would be durabilty, comfort and protection. Not that those are bad qualities for a skate, as for performance, it might lag a bit even without the top eyelet done up. MHO

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Chadd>

It's above and beyond the top of line equivalent.

Sounds just like bauer marketing.

The one100 is what´s closer to a classical durable pro boot (solid steel, extremely stiff and regular pro tongue that you can easily trim on the side). It´s Just a goddamn shame it´s made in Thailand.

The TO is some experimental bullshit sold 800dollars meant for loaded kids. While you are at spendind 800dollars on skates, you might as well go for customs it makes more sense.

Very surprised to hear that kind of comment from Chadd btw... :ph34r:

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Correct me if im wrong but from my understanding the Total One is not as stiff as the One100, its actually softer? (whippier if you're a stick lover :wink: )

But at a 155 lbs Perh4ps I would say that the One100 only advantages for you would be durabilty, comfort and protection. Not that those are bad qualities for a skate, as for performance, it might lag a bit even without the top eyelet done up. MHO

What do you mean by lag a bit? Do you mean that the skate would not be as responsive because of the stiffness of the boot and my weight?

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So what should I get? one80's or totalones? The totalone might just be a bit overkill and pricey for me, thing is, i don't like the cosmetic of the one80 at all :/

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Go for the One100.

FWIW I have One95's ordered in 2009 (made in Canada, not China) and they are still stiff and holding up. Playing in high school and college skating 4-5 times a week, I never had skates last more than a year being 6'4" and 235 then... now add a few lbs to that lol, I play 2 times a week and coach 2 times a week so it is safe to say I am about 70-85% as hard on skates as I was back then. These skates held up great and I expect them to last another 1-2 years min. Excellent pop and stiffness in the boot, plus great durability. Only thing I will change is the holders, eventually.

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