RadioGaGa 162 Report post Posted May 10, 2013 Crosby, Ovechkin and Tavares - Hart FinalistsCrosby, Ovechkin and St. Louis - Ted Lindsay Award Finalists Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RadioGaGa 162 Report post Posted May 13, 2013 Marc Bergevin (Mtl), Bob Murray (Ana) and Ray Shero (Pit) are the Finalists for GM of the Year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RadioGaGa 162 Report post Posted May 14, 2013 Sidney Crosby, Adam McQuaid and Josh Harding - Finalists fo rthe Masterton Award Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RadioGaGa 162 Report post Posted May 15, 2013 Jonathon Toews, Pavel Datsyuk and Patrice Bergeron are Finalists for the Selke Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chadd 916 Report post Posted May 15, 2013 Most of these are following the predictions here pretty closely. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RadioGaGa 162 Report post Posted May 15, 2013 It's almost like we all know a little bit about hockey or something, eh? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chippa13 1844 Report post Posted May 15, 2013 Anybody have any inklings on tonight's Powerball numbers? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wrangler 157 Report post Posted May 15, 2013 It's almost like we all know a little bit about hockey or something, eh?Or read the press predictions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RadioGaGa 162 Report post Posted May 16, 2013 Martin St. Louis, Matt Moulson and Patrick Kane - Lady Byng Finalists Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RadioGaGa 162 Report post Posted May 17, 2013 Bruce Boudreau, Paul Maclean and Joel Quenneville - Jack Adams Noms. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chadd 916 Report post Posted June 15, 2013 http://espn.go.com/chicago/nhl/story/_/id/9388288/jonathan-toews-chicago-blackhawks-wins-selke-trophyToews - SelkeSt Louis - ByngMacLean - AdamsHarding - Masterton Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TeamHonda401 54 Report post Posted June 16, 2013 http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=674113&navid=nhl:topheadsOvechkin - Hart.Crosby - Lindsay.Huberdeau - CalderSubban - NorrisBobrovsky - Vezina Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trooper 8 Report post Posted June 16, 2013 Interesting, no matter what order I had the first two for the Hart, AO was last. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zjack38 46 Report post Posted June 16, 2013 Yay, someone on the bluejackets actually won something for a change. Bob deserved it!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hockeymass 11 Report post Posted June 16, 2013 Not a fan of what the Norris has become. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Morten 2 Report post Posted June 16, 2013 http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=674113&navid=nhl:topheadsOvechkin - Hart.Crosby - Lindsay.Huberdeau - CalderSubban - NorrisBobrovsky - VezinaOvi for Hart....what a joke...Johnny deserved that, leading his team to first post season since 07, he makes his teammates better and score goals.Norris...even bigger joke.Toews winning selke, compared to the other 2 finalists?? Otherwise pretty happy for the last winners, well deserved!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chk hrd 164 Report post Posted June 17, 2013 They need to have 2 awards for Defensemen; one for the best actual defensemen and one for the highest scoring. IMHO there is no way Subban is a better all around D-man than Suter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gerbe3:16 19 Report post Posted June 17, 2013 Not a fan of what the Norris has become.The position has become defined by points for some time now and I agree that it's disappointing. All American, All League in the NCAA.... all based on points. No one cares if you're a Rob Scuderi type (criminally underrated at least back in college) and are solid as all heck. If you can score some points everyone knows who you are even if you get trampled on in your own end. It's pretty lame.I really almost vomited when I saw Subban won the Norris. Lots of talent, just not enough respect and decorum for the game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chadd 916 Report post Posted June 17, 2013 Paul Coffey won the Norris three times, being fascinated with offensive numbers is nothing new. Numbers make it easier to quantify and measure players against each other. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hockeymass 11 Report post Posted June 17, 2013 Paul Coffey won the Norris three times, being fascinated with offensive numbers is nothing new. Numbers make it easier to quantify and measure players against each other. Why not just drop the "best all-around" part then? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TeamHonda401 54 Report post Posted June 17, 2013 If Mike Green ever wins the Norris I'm going to vomit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chadd 916 Report post Posted June 17, 2013 If Mike Green ever wins the Norris I'm going to vomit.I think he finished second to Duncan Keith. Why not just drop the "best all-around" part then?And then what would you base the award on, reputation? There are way too many guys that get lauded for being good defensive defensemen, when they are simply average all around players. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chk hrd 164 Report post Posted June 18, 2013 Since everyone has has gotten so stat happy and they track everything why not base it on a specific group of items; +/-, turnovers leading to goals, points, TOI, blocked shots, etc. In my opinion the Norris is about being the best all around D-man. That would be the person you put up against the other teams top players, put out on PK's & PP's. The one you put on the ice when the game is on the line and no time left. Lidstrom didn't win the Norris all of those times because he was the highest scoring D-man, he won because he was the best D-man. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chadd 916 Report post Posted June 18, 2013 The problem with that is that Lidstrom still wouldn't have come out on top if you based it on numbers like that. You have some awards where people vote on stats and others where people vote based on reputation. The awards don't really mean anything in the grand scheme of things. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chippa13 1844 Report post Posted June 18, 2013 Basing the Norris on things like +/-, turnovers leading to goals, etc wouldn't give you the proper winner, either. Deserving candidates are usually playing around 24-27 minutes against the oppositions top players. That many minutes against that competition, the top defensemen likely aren't going to be leading the +/- race and will probably be guilty of more giveaways simply because they're on the ice so much and facing the best the other side has to offer.The Norris has been the defensemen's scoring title for ages and I've just learned to live with it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
