pizzakid13 5 Report post Posted February 28, 2014 how much of a difference will there be between the current One9 and the new 180? i know the quick change holders are cool but anything else since this years models will be on sale. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
raganblink 82 Report post Posted March 3, 2014 Between One.9 and 180 - yes. Between One.9 and 190 - not so much.The 180 will have the same Curv composite quarter panel, however there is a different as far as liner, tongue and with the samples I saw - stiffness. 180 was softer than the 190, even though both have the curv composite material. Could have just been what I saw but there was a difference. If you are looking at buying the one.9, especially on clearance, go for it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JR Boucicaut 3786 Report post Posted March 3, 2014 The 180 will have the same Curv composite quarter panel, however there is a different as far as liner, tongue and with the samples I saw - stiffness. 180 was softer than the 190, even though both have the curv composite material. Could have just been what I saw but there was a difference.The 180 skate will also feature Curv (albeit not as stiff as the top versions due to different internal ankle workings) AND a flexible tendon guard (NXG spec) at the $499.99 price point. It'll have a 3-pc tongue (however 48 oz thickness with a traditional lacebite protector, and a polished LS Edge runner. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
raganblink 82 Report post Posted March 4, 2014 Makes sense - I don't even know where my catalog went so I was going off memory. The hard part is seeing this stuff 6 months before launch and then having to relearn everything. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pizzakid13 5 Report post Posted March 4, 2014 thanks. the current one 9 is going for around 400 with coupons. i assume the new models will be a little more money. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stryjak11 0 Report post Posted March 4, 2014 When is the Profile II facemask coming out? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonesy9020 77 Report post Posted March 5, 2014 I was also a little confused at what appeared to be downgraded materials for outsoles on the Supreme 170 and 180, but I have a (probably wrong) theory about why they did this. If I'm right, I like the move a lot. Given that pricing stays more or less uniform across the board, 20 bucks here and there notwithstanding, Bauer appears to have reallocated money from outsoles into quarter materials across the middle of the line skates.150 and 160 get upgraded to a "Tech PU" (looks like it could be similar to the Surlyn on the outgoing One.7) from I think nylon on the outgoing One.5 and One.6.170 gets Tech Mesh -- used to be on the One.8.180 gets Curv composite -- Used to be (only) on the One.9 and NXG.Overall I think this may show an increased focus on lateral stiffness and durability at the expense of outsole tech in the midrange skates. This seems like a very smart and consumer focused decision -- for the intermediate level players that use these types of skates most often, that added lateral stiffness should provide a lot more benefit than the "energy transfer" properties that full composite outsoles supposedly provide (I'm sure these do make a difference for elite players, but I don't think a beer league or high school player would notice much difference in a blind test). Durability concerns speak for themselves - better quarters take longer to deteriorate and you end up saving money by buying skates less often. Outsoles don't tend to deteriorate at all (and to the extent that they do, TPU outsoles seem to be less susceptible than composites).It could also help sort out some of the weird weight "issues" in the older line. Because of the Surlyn quarters, the One.7 ended up awkwardly being the heaviest skate in the line. Moving that type of plastic material into lower end skates adds durability and weight, which seems like it might allow the line to progress from heavier low-end skates into lighter high-end skates. I don't really buy that the 30 or so gram difference means much at all, but it does make the line progress more naturally from a marketing perspective.All in all, solid changes to the whole line IMO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stljrs 5 Report post Posted March 12, 2014 Be interesting on the 160. The One60 was Polyurethane and then Bauer went to tech Nylon for the One.6. Now it's back to PU. I'm not sure the One60 was that great of a skate, anecdotally stiff and uncomfortable but the One.6 seemed to be quite popular and my son likes it. I hope Bauer didn't mess up the 160 by going back. PU should be more substantial but hopefully not at the cost of comfort. Maybe the real "bargain" becomes the 170. But if it ends up on the stiff side, my son won't want to wear it. He picked the One.6 over the One.7. Comfort prevailed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonesy9020 77 Report post Posted March 13, 2014 170 appears very similar to old One.8. So, yes, probably a bargain. However, if your son doesn't like stiff skates and the One.7 was too stiff, the 170 won't be any better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hollowicked 39 Report post Posted March 17, 2014 Jr, I lost a set of my tongue inserts for my nxg's do you know if the mx3 ones will be sold individually? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JR Boucicaut 3786 Report post Posted March 17, 2014 Yes, although you can still modify NXG ones to the MX3 by just cutting the notch yourself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TitanG 5 Report post Posted March 20, 2014 Do you guys in the know have the exact release date of the RE-AKT 100 helmet?Earlier you were saying summer some time, but I'm guessing there's an exact date now... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JR Boucicaut 3786 Report post Posted March 20, 2014 8/15 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
All Flash 49 Report post Posted March 26, 2014 For anyone that has seen the new MX3 skate............Does it fit a slight deeper with the new lacing system?Inside ankles sit basically right at the eyelets on previous models where there is no padding . Trying to figure if I need customs or not.Thanx Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bwhockey17 12 Report post Posted March 26, 2014 I have the XVI's, what would be a comparable model in this line? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AIREAYE 248 Report post Posted March 26, 2014 I have the XVI's, what would be a comparable model in this line?Somewhere around the X60. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ddk1029 0 Report post Posted March 30, 2014 Will the new vapor apx2 protective line be lighter than the previous version and how will it compare to the ccm crazy light / RBZ in terms of weight? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AIREAYE 248 Report post Posted March 30, 2014 Yes and comparable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
strosedefence34 175 Report post Posted March 31, 2014 what is the release date of the nexus skates? I'm assuming summer since none of the online stores have them on their sites yet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
raganblink 82 Report post Posted March 31, 2014 April 18 - Nexus SticksApril 25 - Supreme skates, Vapor protectiveJune 20? - Nexus protective, Nexus skatesAugust 28? - ReAkt 100 helmet 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BrondonZA 0 Report post Posted March 31, 2014 For once im excited about the nexus line , looks like they did a great job on the sticks and skates , I don't really care about the protective gear , was never really a fan of nexus protective gear Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TitanG 5 Report post Posted March 31, 2014 The RE-AKT 100 release date is August 15th (as posted above by JR) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
raganblink 82 Report post Posted April 1, 2014 I was going off memory, sorry. I got the most important part of that right, were still 4 months away. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
t6lock 24 Report post Posted May 21, 2014 Does anyone else find the APX2 shin to be really stiff in the knee/shin segment area, or does it possibly need breaking in time? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IPv6Freely 2091 Report post Posted May 21, 2014 Does anyone else find the APX2 shin to be really stiff in the knee/shin segment area, or does it possibly need breaking in time?That's one reason I went with the Mako shins, I was a huge fan of how flexible the knee/shin joint was. I don't think I could go back to a solid joint now! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites