vsawchuk 8 Report post Posted June 5, 2017 11 hours ago, Dman692420 said: Does anybody know if Bauer is now or starting to let step steel sell the steel for the edge holder now? I have seen it all over eBay for sale now & shipping to USA. I bought some & have recieved shipping confirmation from the shop, worst case they cancel my order. I'm not sure if Bauer is allowing it but I received a pair of black step steel for edge holders down here in FL about a month ago and love them! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jgscenter 16 Report post Posted June 5, 2017 At this point I've had Bauer steel snap 3 times. 2x in my 8090 1x in my one.9 so I'm comfortable calling Bauer steel crap I'm using black ice now, it's night and day better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kgbeast 195 Report post Posted June 5, 2017 It would be pretty impossible to "not allow" a Joe Schmo from selling those on ebay. I am glad some folks in Canada can make a few bucks on this weird situation. I find it interesting that Bauer have the patent for this Trigger mechanism only in USA. For example, similar system known to us as "Quickblade" is patented (or at least applied for) in USA, CA, China, European Patent office and with World intellectual Property office. Quickblade mechanism was filed in a couple of years before Bauer. I wonder if Quickblade is conflicting with Bauer everywhere except in USA creating this strange patent situation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
218hockey 50 Report post Posted June 6, 2017 9 hours ago, Jgscenter said: At this point I've had Bauer steel snap 3 times. 2x in my 8090 1x in my one.9 so I'm comfortable calling Bauer steel crap I'm using black ice now Sounds like old stuff. And what is Black Ice? I googled and get nothing but African American hockey players. 9 hours ago, Jgscenter said: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jgscenter 16 Report post Posted June 7, 2017 On 6/6/2017 at 1:03 AM, 218hockey said: Sounds like old stuff. And what is Black Ice? I googled and get nothing but African American hockey players. Sorry Black Edge. I'm not in the business of giving fourth chances regardless of the time line. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tcraig 42 Report post Posted June 8, 2017 @Jgscenter I believe Black Edge is just LS3 steel that has had a black carbon coating applied, so it is supposed to have similar high-end edge retention properties to the Step BlackSteel - but the steel itself is still LS3. As opposed to the Step BlackSteel that is the Step steel that is coated. Again, that's what I've gleaned from (briefly) looking into it - anyone more knowledgeable on it feel free to correct me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jgscenter 16 Report post Posted June 8, 2017 7 hours ago, tcraig said: @Jgscenter I believe Black Edge is just LS3 steel that has had a black carbon coating applied, so it is supposed to have similar high-end edge retention properties to the Step BlackSteel - but the steel itself is still LS3. As opposed to the Step BlackSteel that is the Step steel that is coated. Again, that's what I've gleaned from (briefly) looking into it - anyone more knowledgeable on it feel free to correct me. No it's their own steel however they do offer the coating as a service, prostock hockey has a nice write up on it. Bauer would sue the you know what out of them if they were rebranding Bauer steel. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tcraig 42 Report post Posted June 9, 2017 4 hours ago, Jgscenter said: No it's their own steel however they do offer the coating as a service, prostock hockey has a nice write up on it. Bauer would sue the you know what out of them if they were rebranding Bauer steel. Ah that makes sense thanks for clarifying. Them applying the coating as a service must've been what I was remembering. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jason 65 Report post Posted June 9, 2017 Seems like we've gone a little off topic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shaine 3 Report post Posted June 9, 2017 Hi I'm in the process of ordering VH skates and the only option I see when selecting their Step/VH holder is to add "Step Steel" to them. I'm assuming this is their standard steel. My question is are the V-Steel and Black Steel options from Step available to be purchased for this holder? If so can someone point me in the right direction? Thanks! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IPv6Freely 2096 Report post Posted June 9, 2017 34 minutes ago, Shaine said: Hi I'm in the process of ordering VH skates and the only option I see when selecting their Step/VH holder is to add "Step Steel" to them. I'm assuming this is their standard steel. My question is are the V-Steel and Black Steel options from Step available to be purchased for this holder? If so can someone point me in the right direction? Thanks! 23 hours ago, Jgscenter said: No it's their own steel however they do offer the coating as a service, prostock hockey has a nice write up on it. Bauer would sue the you know what out of them if they were rebranding Bauer steel. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shaine 3 Report post Posted June 9, 2017 2 hours ago, IPv6Freely said: This reply I believe was in regards to the BAUER Light Speed Edge holder and Step Steel producing Black Steel for it. My question though is in regards to the holder made by VH in partnership with STEP. At the moment I only see the option to order the regular step steel for this holder. I'd like to know if STEP does or will offer their V-Steel and/or their Black Steel offering for their own VH/STEP holder. Thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
malcb33 99 Report post Posted June 10, 2017 I would imagine it has to do with the super limited amount of these on the market so far. I'm sure down the line there will be more steel options available Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shaine 3 Report post Posted June 12, 2017 For anyone interested, I was able to get a hold of STEP and they do indeed offer Blacksteel for the VH/Step holder. To clarify you cannot buy the Blacksteel from VH, only the regular Step Steel. In order to purchase the Blacksteel you have to call Step directly and place an order over the phone. $129.99 + shipping. They would not budge on discount or free shipping. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites