Thanks. Took me ages to hunt down via ebay/kijiji One kid saw the Vapors at a public skate, and was like "Those are Vintage!" negatively. Didn't even recognize the old Bauer logo. As for the 8000's, I give the edge to 7000s (blacked out with blk tuuks+) as the coolest Bauer skate. 7000s are a perfect skate (like F40 with Ferrari). Period.